<div dir="ltr">Hello Paulo<div><br></div><div>Could you possibly point to an example, e.g. an Open Access Elsevier paper and where you see the bad typography? In general, the settings for the class and style files should ensure that only rarely TeX-specific commands need to be used. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 23:02, Paulo Ney de Souza <<a href="mailto:pauloney@gmail.com" target="_blank">pauloney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We do that ALL the time, not on lines on a poster, but with lines on<div>Bibliographies.<div><div><br></div><div>It used to be an extremely cumbersome and expensive procedure</div><div>during BibTeX times, when TeX did not know the language it was </div><div>typesetting a bibliography entry. It got infinitely better with BibLaTeX.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Of course, it is possible to annotate the XML with inter-word and inter-</div><div>character spacing information, but it is plain NOT done, most likely</div><div>because of the costs involved.</div><div><br></div><div>Just open the Bibliography of an Elsevier published article processed</div><div>with TeX, especially the ones with two columns, it is absolutely awful,</div><div>with absurd spacing in the wrong places and incorrect hyphenation</div><div>of words. It does look like they have the command \sloppy at the start</div><div>of every Biblio and hyphenate everything in English no matter what</div><div>is written in the text.</div><div><br></div><div>I am publishing a book with one of the big publishers and it has been </div><div>converted to XML. At every complaint of a bad line break or wrong </div><div>hyphenation they take a week to respond and, in general, with another </div><div>bad line-break or hyphenation caused by the previous fix.</div><div><br></div><div>Kaveh, if you know an efficient and inexpensive way to do this, you </div><div>could probably teach us because this is probably holding up the adoption</div><div>of XML as a source, by authors. What about a talk at TUG'24?</div><div><br></div><div>Paulo Ney</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:23 PM William F Hammond <<a href="mailto:hmwlfsr@yahoo.com" target="_blank">hmwlfsr@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I ended my last message with this:<br>
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But if I want to be fussy about typesetting I will use<br>
regular LaTeX.<br>
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Speaking about fussy typesetting, one case is that of a long<br>
paragraph in a public poster on a wall (with suitably large<br>
fonts). I think it desirable to have both left and right<br>
flush margins and no line-ending hyphens. Usually, though<br>
not always, I can tease that out of LaTeX with micro<br>
adjustments to line width. Failing that, I may need to make<br>
manual adjustments to the inter-word spaces in a few lines.<br>
But is there a package that attempts to do this?<br>
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-- Bill<br>
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-- 𝐊𝐞𝐧 𝐁𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐬<br>
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