citing Wikipedia, kind of interesting case

Mike Marchywka marchywka at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 4 00:48:16 CEST 2022


I know, there is a lot of discussion on citing it due
to reliability, authorship,etc, but even non-credible
sources made need to be cited for no other
reason than to criticise them :) In this case,
wikipedia is an accessible moderated source
of broad interest that is usually close enough
for many audiences. 

In that context, I wanted to cite this,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D

and found TooBib no longer worked. Zotero
returned something but it did not
seem useful,


@misc{noauthor_vitamin_2022,
	title = {Vitamin d},
	copyright = {Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License},
	url = {},
	abstract = {Vitamin D is a group of fat-soluble secosteroids responsible for increasing intestinal absorption of calcium, magnesium, and phosphate, and many other biological effects.  In humans, the most important compounds in this group are vitamin D3 (also known as cholecalciferol) and vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol).The major natural source of the vitamin is synthesis of cholecalciferol in the lower layers of epidermis of the skin through a chemical reaction that is dependent on sun exposure (specifically UVB radiation). Cholecalciferol and ergocalciferol can be ingested from the diet and supplements. Only a few foods, such as the flesh of fatty fish, naturally contain significant amounts of vitamin D. In the U.S. and other countries, cow's milk and plant-derived milk substitutes are fortified with vitamin D, as are many breakfast cereals. Mushrooms exposed to ultraviolet light contribute useful amounts of vitamin D2. Dietary recommendations typically assume that all of a person's vitamin D is taken by mouth, as sun exposure in the population is variable and recommendations about the amount of sun exposure that is safe are uncertain in view of the skin cancer risk.Vitamin D from the diet, or from skin synthesis, is biologically inactive. It is activated by two protein enzyme hydroxylation steps, the first in the liver and the second in the kidneys. As vitamin D can be synthesized in adequate amounts by most mammals if exposed to sufficient sunlight, it is not essential, so technically not a vitamin. Instead it can be considered a hormone, with activation of the vitamin D pro-hormone resulting in the active form, calcitriol, which then produces effects via a nuclear receptor in multiple locations.Cholecalciferol is converted in the liver to calcifediol (25-hydroxycholecalciferol); ergocalciferol is converted to 25-hydroxyergocalciferol. These two vitamin D metabolites (called 25-hydroxyvitamin D or 25(OH)D) are measured in serum to determine a person's vitamin D status. Calcifediol is further hydroxylated by the kidneys and some of the immune system cells to form calcitriol (also known as 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol), the biologically active form of vitamin D. Calcitriol circulates as a hormone in the blood, having a major role regulating the concentration of calcium and phosphate, and promoting the healthy growth and remodeling of bone. Calcitriol also has other effects, including some on cell growth, neuromuscular and immune functions, and reduction of inflammation.Vitamin D has a significant role in calcium homeostasis and metabolism. Its discovery was due to effort to find the dietary substance lacking in children with rickets (the childhood form of osteomalacia). Vitamin D supplements are given to treat or to prevent osteomalacia and rickets. The evidence for other health effects of vitamin D supplementation in vitamin D-replete individuals is inconsistent. The effect of vitamin D supplementation on mortality is not clear, with one meta-analysis finding a small decrease in mortality in elderly people. Except for the prevention of rickets and osteomalacia in high-risk groups, any benefit of vitamin D supplements to musculoskeletal or general health may be small.},
	language = {en},
	urldate = {2022-07-03},
	journal = {Wikipedia},
	month = jul,
	year = {2022},
	note = {Page Version ID: 1096184809},
}

I guess it is enough info for many uses and I can't figure out where
they got the abstract although it looks like a copy of the first
section of article text. When I took a look, like many other
sites, wikipedia put the cool info into json format 
but in a less obvious location. Right now TooBib comes
up with the outpue shown below. Several issues though.
For dynamic content even a "day" may not be good enough
time resolution  to make it easy for a reader to verify
whatever assertion you are making.  TooBib included
whatever it can find, in this case including modification
time,  allowing a reader manually put it in and alert
a maintainer "the truth is out there." Also all the TooBib
bibtex includes the originating request url, "srcurl"
to make verification and replay easier. This may differ
from the prefered url and is often an issue with full text
pages or pdf files. Their webform is not very encouraging if
it is meant to illustrate the citation discovery capabilities
of zotero although for many application I'm sure it is ok.
Their full install may be a lot better but based on the
forum it sounds like a lot of features I would never
use like Word integration :) I guess I'm trying to get
to a universal scraper that can store a "last successful
strategy" somewhere to speed up future requests until 
a web site changes again.   


toobib -local -clip
toobib set to ../toobib/toobib.out -devel
mjm>clip xxxx
./toobib.h546  cmd=clip p1=xxxx p2= flags=18 x.flag_to_string(flags,0)=show_trial paste_citation 
./mjm_med2bib_guesses.h982  uin=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D dest=xxxx flags=18
./mjm_med2bib_guesses.h1136 % mjmhandler: toobib guesswikipedia(new)
% date 2022-07-03:18:35:46 Sun Jul 3 18:35:46 EDT 2022
% srcurl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D
% citeurl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D
@article{Wikimediaprojects_group_molecules_used_2022,
X_TooBib = {date: 07/02/2022},
X_TooBib = {year: 2022,  infield_fix_dates },
X_TooBib = {month: 07,  infield_fix_dates },
X_TooBib = {day: 02,  infield_fix_dates },
X_TooBib = {title: Vitamin D},
X_TooBib = {urldate: FixBeKvp s= cmd=date "+%Y-%m-%d" d=2022-07-03 dn=urldate},
X_TooBib = {author: Wikimedia projects , Contributors to},
action = {view},
articleid = {24998247},
author = {Wikimedia projects , Contributors to},
author_orig = {Contributors to Wikimedia projects},
author_type = {Organization},
backendresponsetime = {284},
breakframes = {false},
canonicalnamespace = {},
canonicalspecialpagename = {false},
centralauthmobiledomain = {false},
cspnonce = {false},
currevisionid = {1096184809},
date = {07/02/2022},
date_orig = {     2022-07-02T21:54:00Z 2002-05-29T18:47:46Z   },
datemodified = {2022-07-02T21:54:00Z},
datepublished = {2002-05-29T18:47:46Z},
day = {02},
defaultdateformat = {dmy},
editsubmitbuttonlabelpublish = {true},
ext.cite.styles = {ready},
ext.globalcssjs.user = {ready},
ext.globalcssjs.user.styles = {ready},
ext.uls.interlanguage = {ready},
ext.visualeditor.desktoparticletarget.noscript = {ready},
ext.wikimediabadges = {ready},
gehomepagesuggestededitsenabletopics = {true},
gestructuredtaskrejectionreasontextinputenabled = {false},
getopicsmatchmodeenabled = {false},
headline = {group of molecules used as vitamin},
hostname = {mw1322},
image = {https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Cholecalciferol2.svg},
isarticle = {true},
isprobablyeditable = {true},
isredirect = {false},
journal = {Wikipedia},
jquery.makecollapsible.styles = {ready},
mainentity = {http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q175621},
mediaviewerenabledbydefault = {true},
mediavieweronclick = {true},
month = {07},
name = {Vitamin D},
namespacenumber = {0},
noticeproject = {wikipedia},
pagecontentlanguage = {en},
pagecontentmodel = {wikitext},
pagename = {Vitamin_D},
popupsflags = {10},
publisher = {Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.},
publisher_type = {Organization},
quality = {community},
relevantarticleid = {24998247},
relevantpageisprobablyeditable = {true},
relevantpagename = {Vitamin_D},
requestid = {52d8fd94-477e-4c02-86bb-1e9ee1f31e40},
revisionid = {1096184809},
sameas = {http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q175621},
site.styles = {ready},
skins.vector.styles.legacy = {ready},
title = {group of molecules used as vitamin},
ulscurrentautonym = {English},
ulsiscompactlinksenabled = {true},
ulsposition = {interlanguage},
url = {https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D},
urldate = {2022-07-03},
user = {ready},
user.options = {loading},
user.styles = {ready},
username = {},
wikibase.client.init = {ready},
wikibaseitemid = {Q175621},
wmepagelength = {200000},
wmeschemaeditattemptstepoversample = {false},
year = {2022},
final_assembly ={ TooBib handler guesswikipedia(new)},
srcurl={https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D},
xsrcurl={https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D},
citeurl={https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D}

}





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