can anyone get a citation on this link? It fails on Zotero too :)

Mike Marchywka marchywka at
Wed Dec 29 22:49:49 CET 2021

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 01:31:43PM -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote:
>    I believe there is a need for something that will download the record and check if an existing record is correct... so a
>    journal -- upon receiving a submission -- would follow a DOI or an URL, and verify and even augment the existing record.

Yes, using a computer to automate data processing has a lot of
merit. Curious if anyone ever thought of that :) I was thinking
about a retraction check prior to submission. In any case,
for note taking or citing a paper you have already
read, in this case I was making a social media post,
hunting around is just a distraction. This is even a bigger
issue when viewing a pdf file or other page without the
citation info immediately obvious. 

I often can collect several abstracts following a chain
of ideas. Then, go back and read the papers that are most
important. Sometimes just the bibtex file may be a useful
literature search result. 
I end up with introductory sentences that make broad
statements about existing literature and finding a few
papers to cite based on the abstract may be useful but
you may not read much of them and often the abstract
makes enough of the point to cite just that.  
Sometimes I'm trying to find a
paper that just says something that is common knowledge to
part of an audience but not another part and don't want
to read the whole thing- sometimes citations to
wikipedia work for that. 

In any case, automation of tedious repetitive tasks
is good...

>    Paulo Ney
>    On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 1:00 PM David Carlisle <[mailto:d.p.carlisle at]d.p.carlisle at> wrote:
>    On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 18:59, Mike Marchywka <[mailto:marchywka at]marchywka at> wrote:
>      On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 06:48:36PM +0000, John C Frain wrote:
>      >    Faster than pen and paper the google scholar link under related info links give bibtex and other formats for citing
>      the
>      >    article.  Search in Jabref also found the required bibliographic material;
>      You need to see the usage of Zotero and TooBib :)
>      One goal is to create a single action for getting a bibtex
>      entry from any given page to avoid disrupting the train
>      of thought while compiling citations.
>    I must admit I have never understood this.  Given the effort required to write a paper and presumably to read the paper you
>    are citing, clicking on a link labelled "Citation export" to get a bibtex entry seems to me to be a completely
>    insignificant effort. I can see if you want to extract a bibtex database of the entire journal archive, an automated API
>    might be useful, but for actual document authors, needing individual entries, what is the workflow that you are imagining
>    here?
>    David


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