<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 21, 2024, at 13:42 , Karl Berry <<a href="mailto:karl@freefriends.org" class="">karl@freefriends.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">However, Adam, I can't quite understand why you would be getting the<br class="">error using the tlmgr from tlcritical (please check the version). </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">$ tlmgr --version</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">tlmgr revision 69327 (2024-01-07 12:10:51 +0100)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">tlmgr using installation: /usr/local/texlive/2023basic</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">TeX Live (<a href="https://tug.org/texlive" class="">https://tug.org/texlive</a>) version 2023</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(installed a week or two ago to test the LWP stuff)</span></div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Can<br class="">you enable debugging? When updating tlgpg, you should see a message<br class="">like:<br class=""><br class=""> "Remote database does not contain the texlive-scripts package,<br class=""> skipping version consistency check"</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I suspect the last few lines are all you need, but just in case:<br class=""><br class=""></div><div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">$ sudo /usr/bin/perl /Library/TeX/texbin/tlmgr -v --machine-readable --repository <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg/" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg/</a> --persistent-downloads install --reinstall tlgpg</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:appending to package log file: /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr.log</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:appending to command log file: /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr-commands.log</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Setting env var HTTPS_CA_FILE to /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/tlpkg/installer/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:tlmgr:main: ::tldownload_server hash:: {enabled:1,errorcount:0,initcount:1,ua:LWP::UserAgent=HASH(0x7fa557453aa8)}</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:setup_programs: preferring system versions</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program df found in path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program curl found in path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program wget not usable from path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:(unix) trying to set up wget, default /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/tlpkg/installer/wget/wget.universal-darwin, arg --version</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLUtils::setup_programs: curl on old darwin, final curl args: --cacert /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/tlpkg/installer/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt --user-agent texlive/curl --retry 4 --retry-delay 4 --connect-timeout 30 --fail --location --silent --output</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program lz4 found in path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program gzip found in path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:program xz found in path</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Using checksum method digest::sha</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Testing for gpg in gpg</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D: ... gpg not ok! [gpg --version >/dev/null 2>&1]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Testing for gpg in gpg2</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D: ... gpg not ok! [gpg2 --version >/dev/null 2>&1]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Testing for gpg in /usr/local/texlive/2023basic/tlpkg/installer/gpg/gpg.universal-darwin</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:tlmgr: No gpg found, verification implicitly requested, continuing without verification</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">start load <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg/" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg/</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLPDB.pm: trying to initialize from <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:trying to download <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz</a> to /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/goZnR3gNmJ</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:persistent connection set up, trying to get <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.xz</a> (for /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/goZnR3gNmJ)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLUtils::download_file: downloading using lwp succeeded</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:decompressing /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/goZnR3gNmJ to /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/oFDOH0z9BJ</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLUtils::system_pipe: calling "xz" -dcf < "/tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/goZnR3gNmJ" > "/tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/oFDOH0z9BJ"</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLUtils::system_pipe: removing /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/goZnR3gNmJ</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:found the uncompressed xz file</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:persistent connection set up, trying to get <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.sha512" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg//tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb.sha512</a> (for /tmp/w02Bf2p7Lw/T1QmEjDj2E)</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:TLUtils::download_file: downloading using lwp succeeded</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:gpg prog not defined, no checking of signatures</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:verify_checksum: returning -3 and no gpg available</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:/Library/TeX/texbin/tlmgr: TLPDB: no gpg available, continuing anyway!</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Accepting a newer release as remote due to presence of release extension!</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">D:Remote database revision 23, texlive-scripts local revision 66584</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">fail load <a href="https://preining.info/tlgpg/" class="">https://preining.info/tlgpg/</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 11px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10px; line-height: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">tlmgr: Remote database (rev 23) seems to be older than local (rev 66584 of texlive-scripts); please use different mirror or wait a day or so.</span></div></div><br class=""></body></html>