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<p>Using proprietary things can lead to further extermination camps
as using proprietary things the user supports their owners who are
there to gain profit and maximizing profit maximizes inequality as
there are people who work non-profit. Furthermore, owners of
proprietary things have resources to govern others. If the owner
is just then also others can benefit from the owner's profit. If
the owner is not just then the owner can suppress others up to
extermination. Is <i>Zoom</i>'s owner just or not? On the
contrary, if we use FOSS then we do not support someone's profit
but people who create value for us. That brings to another
question: Are we just or not?</p>
<p>i read from the conversation below that referencing was asked for
reasoning the connection between using <i>Zoom</i> and
suppressing people in China. A rhetoric question was asked in
reply whether referencing would also be asked for suppressing
Jews. Of course, Adolf Hitler did not use <i>Zoom</i> and we
cannot find any reference for something that did not exist that
time. Some people even doubt that <i>Holocaust</i> ever took
place regardless of many references from authorities. This brings
to the further thought that an authority for someone is not an
authority for someone else. Winners tend to write history. Now, a
war is going on between proprietary and open-source software. If
the former would win then we would need to dance according to the
music of the owners of proprietary software and eventually get
suppressed and exterminated if not needed anymore. If the latter
would win we would dance according to the music chosen of our own
and have access to resources we need regardless of the business
plan of the owner. There is still a catch. Without electricity,
none of it works. And electricity costs three times what it costed
a year ago. This is because producing electricity is a proprietary
thing. Would we live in a sharing society already if producing
electricity would be open-source?<br>
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Subject: Re: Rethinking TeX in STEM: Online Thu 29 Sep: 6.30pm BST (UK time): From the TeX Hour
Am Tue, 27 Sep 2022 12:05:49 +0200 schrieb Christopher Dimech:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Would you have required reference from authority source to the Jews you
found as you entered the extermination camps in German-occupied Europe.
Or reference from the people who sufferred frem the Soviet Gulag System.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Misusing the horror of the extermination camps to make a petty
argument against a software is inacceptable and disrespectful to the
victims of these camps.
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<p>Christopher, this is not the forum to be talking about
extermination camps in any circumstances. It is way off topic
from the initial discussion on Zoom and free software
alternatives. I do understand the point you are making in
regards to the use of alternatives but not when it comes to the
atrocities that happened at these camps.<br>
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<p>I would ask that you apologise for your comments on this list
and refrain from using these in the future<br>
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Keiran <br>
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