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    Trying to continue the dialogue with Norbert from my Royal Holloway
    a/c is proving impossible — the university has elected to have all
    e-mails intercepted by Microsoft and all URLs mutated into something
    totally impenetrable, which not only causes my browser to report a
    probable phishing attempt every time that I click on a link, it also
    makes messages impossibly verbose.  I am therefore testing whether I
    can post to this list from a private e-mail address using my own
    SMTP relay, and which takes all replies via Gmail.  <br>
    <br>
    Just to demonstrate the impossibility of understanding e-mails via
    my university a/c, I append the most recent.  If this test is
    successful, all subsequent messages from me to this list (and
    analogous lists) will come from this account, which will also avoid
    the equally unpleasant forced insertion of [EXT] into all received
    subject lines.<br>
    <br>
    Incidentally, I cannot find the "texcollection" list at <a
      moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://tug.org/mailman/listinfo">https://tug.org/mailman/listinfo</a>,
    so do not know how to subscribe to it, nor whether this message will
    reach it.<br>
    <br>
    <i>Philip Taylor<br>
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        <pre wrap="">On Wed, 08 Apr 2020, Philip Taylor wrote:
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          <pre wrap="">C:\Windows\system32>tlmgr option repository <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638374212&amp;sdata=LjxVA6QA0fk4hgl85rHxFud65Jvx%2B4oVBjhs2cIunhI%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638374212&amp;sdata=LjxVA6QA0fk4hgl85rHxFud65Jvx%2B4oVBjhs2cIunhI%3D&amp;reserved=0</a>
tlmgr.pl: setting default package repository to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a>
tlmgr.pl: updating C:/TeX/Live/2020/tlpkg/texlive.tlpdb

C:\Windows\system32>tlmgr repository
List of repositories (with tags if set):
       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a> (main)

C:\Windows\system32>tlmgr update --list
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        <pre wrap="">Not reproducible:
$ tlmgr --repository <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a> update --list
tlmgr: package repository <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a> (not verified: valid signature with expired key)
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tlmgr itself needs to be updated.
Please do this via either
  tlmgr update --self
or by getting the latest updater for Unix-ish systems:
  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmirror.ctan.org%2Fsystems%2Ftexlive%2Ftlnet%2Fupdate-tlmgr-latest.sh&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=m5tmMpZA5SuiHJ5KkX6%2FVP9WFYHPq8zZxqt%2BvQ%2BsYUc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmirror.ctan.org%2Fsystems%2Ftexlive%2Ftlnet%2Fupdate-tlmgr-latest.sh&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=m5tmMpZA5SuiHJ5KkX6%2FVP9WFYHPq8zZxqt%2BvQ%2BsYUc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a>
and/or Windows systems:
  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmirror.ctan.org%2Fsystems%2Ftexlive%2Ftlnet%2Fupdate-tlmgr-latest.exe&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=JZhwmZQFuI6sqkolkQoOqq6uP6CDnmOgfW1c6AScefw%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmirror.ctan.org%2Fsystems%2Ftexlive%2Ftlnet%2Fupdate-tlmgr-latest.exe&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=JZhwmZQFuI6sqkolkQoOqq6uP6CDnmOgfW1c6AScefw%3D&amp;reserved=0</a>
Then continue with other updates as usual.
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tlmgr: would save backups to /home/norbert/tl/2020/tlpkg/backups
update:   texlive.infra      [420k]: local:    54595, source:    54630
update:   texlive-msg-translations [138k]: local:    54534, source:    54625
update:   texlive-scripts    [344k]: local:    54612, source:    54624
$

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          <pre wrap="">SYSTEM_WGETRC = c:/progra~1/wget/etc/wgetrc
syswgetrc = C:\Program files (x86)\GnuWin32/etc/wgetrc
SYSTEM_WGETRC = c:/progra~1/wget/etc/wgetrc
syswgetrc = C:\Program files (x86)\GnuWin32/etc/wgetrc
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        <pre wrap="">Could it be that your wget and wgetrc are simply hosed?

BTW, this repeats every year, most of the time it is one of your
particularly strange settings ... <span class="moz-smiley-s3" title=";-)"></span>

What about running
        tlmgr -v --repository <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftexlive.info%2Ftlpretest%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CP.Taylor%40Rhul.Ac.Uk%7C18d526bf3b7a459ecb2b08d7dc0f6dea%7C2efd699a19224e69b601108008d28a2e%7C0%7C0%7C637219833638384207&amp;sdata=u7UggZjx3MdBXp0hdnkNBmAVSSjKvqorR3614R5Qsvc%3D&amp;reserved=0</a> update --list
Mind the "-v" and see what is shown?

Best

Norbert

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