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<div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">Maybe I incorrectly described in what, in my opinion, TeX Live can better. 
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">I fully ok with the removal of 
8.3 names

 support, 
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">their time has passed. <br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">But as for the directory separator, I would like to TeXLive (on Windows) to be as agnostic as possible, for two reasons:</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">1. It works in some parts, but not in the others.</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">2. No error is produced.<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">Concerning the 1. as I showed in the example it is ok to use both 
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-">-output-directory=".\Tex\local"</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> and 
<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-">-output-directory="./Tex/local"<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">, but this does not work for input files (
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="">this is obviously perceived as an existing possibility, but to some extent not coordinated in various places</span></span>). 
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">Maybe I completely do not understand what difficulties are on the way.</span></span> If so I would like to know what they are.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">Why I 
<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">am</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>

so concerned :) because many cross-platform libraries and utilities that work with paths (directories) use platform dependent directory separators (and usually the user has no control over this).</span></span> And this miss in the TeXLive functionality in some parts, breaks their lovely attempts.


<span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">Of course it is not difficult at the end to replace every <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">"\"</span> with <span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">"/"</span>, but it looks pretty crazy to do this for program running on Windows. And of course it is a very hard to find bug, because no error is produced.<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">with kind regards,</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-tlid-translation gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-m_6724498004672345221gmail-"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span class="gmail-tlid-translation gmail-translation" lang="en"><span title="" class="gmail-">-gdg<br></span></span>

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</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 26 июл. 2019 г. в 01:23, Akira Kakuto <<a href="mailto:kakuto@w32tex.org">kakuto@w32tex.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Kirill,<br>
<br>
> In TeX Live 2015, not this year,  all of the following work on windows:<br>
><br>
> pdftex test-test<br>
> pdftex test-t~1<br>
> pdftex c:/somedirectory/test-t~1<br>
> pdftex c:/somedi~1/test-t~1<br>
<br>
In the recent releases, the support of 8.3 names, like test-t~1.tex,<br>
was removed. Thus pdftex test-t~1 does not work.<br>
Please don't use short names.<br>
<br>
For the directory separator, please use forward slash "/".<br>
Sorry for the inconvenience.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Akira<br>
<br>
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