tlmgr --self

[Jim Diamond]

Hi Karl and Zdeněk,

thanks for your answers.  I'm not sure they are quite as enlightening
as I hoped, but since they both make sense, I guess it is all good.

Karl, assuming you are using Unix or Linux, does
        tlmgr $repo update --self --all
not work for you?  (In the interest of shorter command lines?)
I just tried it, and there is no "--self" update available for me, but
it did update 5 packages for me.

Cheers.
                                Jim

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 15:46 (-0600), Karl Berry wrote:

> Hi Jim,

>> Q: why is --self not the default?  Are there any/many situations where
>> you would not want the self-update to happen?

> I don't know of any specific situation where you wouldn't want to do
> --self, if you're doing daily updates anyway. But I guess we felt it was
> better for the user to explicitly specify this, i.e., to be able to
> postpone it if timing was bad for an infrastructure update.

> What I do myself is, essentially,
> repo="--repository ctan"  # or whatever
> tlmgr $repo update --self && tlmgr $repo update --all

> since I want to know soonest if an update breaks something :). --best, karl.

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 09:49 (+0200), Zdenek Wagner wrote:

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> so 25. 9. 2021 v 23:46 odesílatel Karl Berry <karl at freefriends.org> napsal:

>> Hi Jim,

>>> Q: why is --self not the default?  Are there any/many situations where
>>> you would not want the self-update to happen?

>> I don't know of any specific situation where you wouldn't want to do
>> --self, if you're doing daily updates anyway. But I guess we felt it was
>> better for the user to explicitly specify this, i.e., to be able to
>> postpone it if timing was bad for an infrastructure update.

>> What I do myself is, essentially,
>> repo="--repository ctan"  # or whatever
>> tlmgr $repo update --self && tlmgr $repo update --all

>> since I want to know soonest if an update breaks something :). --best, karl.

> If I remember it well, tlmgr --self --all does not work on Windows due
> to file locking, it is necessary to use tlmgr --self followed by tlmgr
> --all. But maybe the problem has already been solved somehow, I am not
> sure.

> Zdeněk Wagner
> http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml