pretesting please

[Siep Kroonenberg]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:25:46AM +0000, Hoffmann, Jobst wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 19.03.2019, 14:50 +0100 schrieb Siep Kroonenberg:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 05:16:49PM +0000, Hoffmann, Jobst wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, den 16.03.2019, 16:53 -0600 schrieb Karl Berry:
> > > > Hi everyone - if you have any chance of installing the TL pretest
> > > > and
> > > > trying it out on your documents, please do!
> > > > http://tug.org/texlive/pretest.html
> > > > 
> > > > Please report any problems, and thanks,
> > > 
> > > I've installed TeXLive 2019 on a virtual Windows 10 machine running
> > > on a
> > > Linux host (Fedora 29).
> > > 
> > > I wanted to update my installation by using the TL Shell. The window
> > > shows "tlmgr need update". I clicked on Help->tlmgr help, clicking
> > > on
> > > "close" ended with an error message - I didn't save the screen shot,
> > > but
> > > this error appeared late on under other circumstances.
> > > 
> > > Bug: The title bar of the help window shows "tlmg" instead of
> > > "tlmgr".
> > > 
> > > Then I did the following steps:
> > > 1. I clicked on "update tlmgr" (step_01.png)
> > > 2. Looking at the logs, all seemed to work fine -> tlmgr restarting
> > > (step_02.png).
> > > 3. Looking at possible errors, I found the common message (Backup
> > > not
> > > implemented...), I wanted to close the window. An error message
> > > popped
> > > up (step_03a.png, step_03b.png). 
> > > 4. A second try closed the error window, but TL Shell still shows
> > > "needs
> > > update" (step_04.png).
> > > 5. I clicked on "update tlmgr" again, output and error log were
> > > looking
> > > good again, the window can be closed (step_05a.png, step_05b.png,
> > > step_05c.png),
> > > 6. but now no button is active (step_06.png).
> > > 7. Rebooting the VM produced the same behavior as before, the logs
> > > seem
> > > to be fine, the pop up window can be closed directly (step_07.png).
> > > I
> > > feel like living on groundhog day...
> > 
> > I hope that this is solved with today's update of tlshell, which
> > should show up tomorrow in the pretest repositories.
> 
> Just tested it, seems to work fine. But I have three other points:
> 1. I agree with Bernhard Kleine, that "warte..." isn't the correct
> translation/doesn't have the meaning of "idle..."

I'll forward Bernhard Kleine's observation to the tldoc list.

> 2. Why are messages like "running mktexlsr ..." shown under the error
> tab in the Logs window. From my point of view these messages belong to
> the standard output. Only the text following "Übersprungen, da nicht
> installiert" should go into the error tab.

The tlmgr back end decides what goes where. Renaming the Errors tab
to Other might be less misleading.

> 3. Today I had a long list of updates, so the tlmgr command had a long
> argument list. This increased the TeX Live Shell window to the right and
> I got an annoying large window. Is it possible to break the command line
> into small portions to prevent the increase of window area?

I'll look into that.

-- 
Siep Kroonenberg