[tex-live] Updates to new TL installer GUI
Denis Bitouzé
dbitouze at wanadoo.fr
Tue Nov 27 17:08:39 CET 2018
Le 27/11/18 à 14h29, Siep Kroonenberg a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:49:40PM +0100, Denis Bitouzé wrote:
>> Hi Siep,
>>
>> Le 26/11/18 à 16h36, Siep Kroonenberg a écrit :
>>
>> > By the way: the latest revision, from november 24, does again allow
>> > more resizing.
>>
>> Here on Linux Mageia 6, I can't resize any of the boxes (either
>> normal/advanced), in any way (neither maximize nor with the mouse).
>
> The basic and advanced windows are not resizeble: shrinking would
> corrupt the layout,
OK.
> which is already shrink-wrapped, and expanding serves no purpose.
In French, it is common to have longer sentences than the corresponding
English ones: will the windows sizes be adjusted to the translated
strings?
Another point: I personally prefer the window I'm currently working on
to be maximzed in order to not be disturbed by other windows.
> The selection lists
Do you mean the child windows?
> should now mostly be resizable.
OK, and they are so shrinkable that at the end you don't see anything :)
But I don't see any reason to forbid this for the main basic and
advanced windows.
>> Some remarks:
>>
>> 1. "Normal" box:
>> 1. IMHO, the box such as "Installation root", displayed as follows
>> (ascii art):
>> ┌────
>> │ /usr/local / texlive / 2018
>> │ +-------------+ +-------------+ +-------------+
>> │ | Browse... + | Change + | Toggle year +
>> │ +-------------+ +-------------+ +-------------+
>> └────
>> could be confusing, especially for beginners: this way of choosing
>> a directory is quite unusual.
>
> I have encountered many selection dialogs which did not make clear
> whether they would install under or in the selected directory. I
> wanted this to be unambiguous.
Mmmmmhhhh, I'm not sure it is now clearer. The directory structure
displayed as a tree view would be less puzzling, but I'm must admit
I don't know whether Tcl allows it or not.
> Also, the TL installer is special because there are two levels to
> create.
OK.
> The previous solution was manually specifying the entire string in a
> text box, which was not ideal either.
Indeed but, usually, the default string was suitable.
>> 2. Some of the boxes can be closed thanks to the `Esc' key (e.g. the
>> "Warning" one when "Toggle year" is clicked), other can't
>> (e.g. "Directory name" when "Change" is clicked).
>
> Added to my TODO list
Thanks.
>> 3. "Installation root" → "Toggle year" → "Yes" makes the year part
>> empty, which isn't what I expected by "toggling" the year.
>
> What would you expect? Or can you suggest a better button text?
In fact, I don't understand what "toggle" means here: between which
years we could toggle?
>> 2. "Advanced" box:
>> 1. Same remarks as 1.1 and 1.2.
>> 2. The 1st "Change" button opens a box that contains (as above)
>> a "Browse..." button. The "Specify directories" as well, but with
>> lowercase "browse...".
>
> Also added to the TODO list, to avoid pointless extra work for
> translators.
Many thanks! :)
--
Denis
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