[tex-live] Updates to new TL installer GUI

Denis Bitouzé dbitouze at wanadoo.fr
Tue Nov 27 17:08:39 CET 2018

Le 27/11/18 à 14h29, Siep Kroonenberg a écrit :

> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:49:40PM +0100, Denis Bitouzé wrote:
>> Hi Siep,
>> Le 26/11/18 à 16h36, Siep Kroonenberg a écrit :
>> > By the way: the latest revision, from november 24, does again allow
>> > more resizing.
>> Here on Linux Mageia 6, I can't resize any of the boxes (either
>> normal/advanced), in any way (neither maximize nor with the mouse).
> The basic and advanced windows are not resizeble: shrinking would
> corrupt the layout,


> which is already shrink-wrapped, and expanding serves no purpose.

In French, it is common to have longer sentences than the corresponding
English ones: will the windows sizes be adjusted to the translated

Another point: I personally prefer the window I'm currently working on
to be maximzed in order to not be disturbed by other windows.

> The selection lists

Do you mean the child windows?

> should now mostly be resizable.

OK, and they are so shrinkable that at the end you don't see anything :)
But I don't see any reason to forbid this for the main basic and
advanced windows.

>> Some remarks:
>> 1. "Normal" box:
>>    1. IMHO, the box such as "Installation root", displayed as follows
>>       (ascii art):
>>      ┌────
>>      │         /usr/local        /        texlive        /        2018
>>      │       +-------------+          +-------------+         +-------------+
>>      │       |  Browse...  +          |   Change    +         | Toggle year +
>>      │       +-------------+          +-------------+         +-------------+
>>      └────
>>       could be confusing, especially for beginners: this way of choosing
>>       a directory is quite unusual.
> I have encountered many selection dialogs which did not make clear
> whether they would install under or in the selected directory. I
> wanted this to be unambiguous.

Mmmmmhhhh, I'm not sure it is now clearer. The directory structure
displayed as a tree view would be less puzzling, but I'm must admit
I don't know whether Tcl allows it or not.

> Also, the TL installer is special because there are two levels to
> create.


> The previous solution was manually specifying the entire string in a
> text box, which was not ideal either.

Indeed but, usually, the default string was suitable.

>>    2. Some of the boxes can be closed thanks to the `Esc' key (e.g. the
>>       "Warning" one when "Toggle year" is clicked), other can't
>>       (e.g. "Directory name" when "Change" is clicked).
> Added to my TODO list


>>    3. "Installation root" → "Toggle year" → "Yes" makes the year part
>>       empty, which isn't what I expected by "toggling" the year.
> What would you expect? Or can you suggest a better button text?

In fact, I don't understand what "toggle" means here: between which
years we could toggle?

>> 2. "Advanced" box:
>>    1. Same remarks as 1.1 and 1.2.
>>    2. The 1st "Change" button opens a box that contains (as above)
>>       a "Browse..." button. The "Specify directories" as well, but with
>>       lowercase "browse...".
> Also added to the TODO list, to avoid pointless extra work for
> translators.

Many thanks! :)

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