[tex-live] getnonfreefonts

[Zdenek Wagner]

2016-04-13 21:34 GMT+02:00 Paulo Ney de Souza <pauloney at gmail.com>:

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> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
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>> 2016-04-13 19:30 GMT+02:00 Paulo Ney de Souza <pauloney at gmail.com>:
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>>> There are about 50 fonts in CTAN which are in TDS and are not part of
>>> TeXLive. If is zip, tar, rpm ... it is not really different, the important
>>> part if that TDS organization is ready.
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>> If it is in TDS, just put it to your $TEXM-LOCAL and run updmap(-sys)
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> I can show you a ton of fonts for which that will NOT work! And that you
> have to disable some Map's and enable others in oredr to make it work.
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... which means that they are not properly packaged.

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>>>   A- Include them on TeXLive
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>> Ask the font authors to release them under a free license and it will
>> happen.
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> Is GPL good enough? What license are acceptable and which ones are not?
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> "Antiqua" for example is on CTAN, available under GPL but not on TeXLive.
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>>   B- Make their download and installation automatic via a script.
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>> Nobody can guarantee that all fonts on CTAN have exactly the same
>> structure so that one script could fit for all.
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> With the additional information on how they are packaged it should be
> enough. A few subroutines to deal with each class... and the info laid out
> in a flat DB should be all that is required.
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Yes, but the information must be available in a standardized computer
readable metafile.

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>> It can be automatic if all fonts are packaged exactly the same way. If
>> you do not force all font authors to pack the distribution in an exactly
>> the same way, the script will sooner or later crash.
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> getnonfreefonts is the counter-example of what you saying above. It
> install 10 different fonts which are packaged in different ways, and it
> does it beautifully.
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No, getnonfreefonts is a script that can install selected fonts where the
packages were manually tweaked by Reinhard (or maybe somebody else too).



Zdeněk Wagner
http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz



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> Paulo Ney
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>>  Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Saying that something is packaged does not give any useful information.
>>>> How is it packaged, as zip, rpm, deb, ...? If it is a zip, what is the
>>>> directory structure inside it? What is the format of the font, is it MF,
>>>> Type 1, TrueType, OpenType? What is the encoding of the font? Which
>>>> languages and scripts are supported? If a font is properly packaged, it
>>>> means that all this information is present in a metafile understandable to
>>>> an infrastructure that is able to put the files to correct directories and
>>>> is able to inform the operating system and/or a particular TeX distribution
>>>> that the font is available. CTAN usually contains archive files, not
>>>> packages. In order to use them a user has to collect all this information
>>>> and install the font. There is nothing like super simple font installation
>>>> unless it is an OpenType font and you can just copy the *.otf to a system
>>>> directory.
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>>>>
>>>> Zdeněk Wagner
>>>> http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
>>>> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz
>>>>
>>>> 2016-04-13 2:41 GMT+02:00 Paulo Ney de Souza <pauloney at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> We are talking about fonts that have already been packaged - this is
>>>>> about installation and not packaging for TeX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paulo Ney
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>>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Norbert Preining <preining at logic.at>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> > elsewhere) which are not available on TL. This is vexing because the
>>>>>> > technology to make these installs a single command line like ...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     font-install Antiqua
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>>>>>>         $ font-install Antiqua
>>>>>>         bash: font-install: command not found
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>>>>>> I don't know what you are talking about that super simple font
>>>>>> installation, but I can guarantee you - and I have packaged a lot of
>>>>>> fonts - that font installation cross platform is not trivial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norbert
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>>>>>> PREINING, Norbert
>>>>>> http://www.preining.info
>>>>>> JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian
>>>>>> Developer
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