[tex-live] Serious (?) problem with Babel and language attributes

[Zdenek Wagner]

2014-06-01 11:07 GMT+02:00 Manfred Lotz <manfred at dante.de>:

> Hi Norbert,
>
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 17:14:50 +0900
> Norbert Preining <preining at logic.at> wrote:
>
> > Hi Javier, hi Karl, hi everyone
> >
> > I got a bug report here at Debian, but it is the same in the
> > current TL2014 status. It seems that something with the
> > language attributes is up-side-down:
> >
> > The report states that
> >       \today
> > prints the wrong month for June in Russian. It should be
> >       "июнь" (cyrillic "i" at the first position)
> > but comes out as
> >       "iюнь" (latin "i" followed by cyrillic "юнь")
> >
>
> I get iюня. The я at the end of the word is strange. The good news is
> that I get it with both texlive 2013 and 2014.
>

I do not know ancient Russian but in nowadays Russian it should be июня. It
is genitive, it corresponds to "of June", июнь is nominative. я implies
soft pronunciation of д, т, н (similarly as е, и, ю, ё), therefore ь is not
written. If I want to say "today is 1 of June", it will be "сегодня первое
июня". If I wanted to say "I did it 1 of June", it would be "я это сделал
первого июня". But if I wanted to say "it is now month June", it would be
"сейчас месяц июнь".

>
> > \languageattribute{russian}{ancient}
>
> This gives me июня in both texlive 2013 and 2014.
>
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>
> Don't know what to conclude from this.
>
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> --
> Manfred
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