[tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name

[Lars Madsen]

20 students on the same basestation, no good. The USBs work a lot better.

Transfer times have improved a bit after we bought some USB3 sticks.

I'll test Denis' method. So far the method of having tlnet on USB have worked just fine. They copy tlnet folder to HD, with the excuse that Windows is slow to install from USB, then pass on the USB.

Having 20 USB sticks to choose from does not give much waiting time

Am I right in assuming that once the ISO is loaded, the installation time from the mounted iso is more or less the same compared to installting from tlnet on HD? ie the gain comes from the ISO being faster to copy.


/Lars Madsen
Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics
Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University
Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information: http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf


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From: Zdenek Wagner [zdenek.wagner at gmail.com]
Sent: 19 January 2014 12:53
To: Lars Madsen
Cc: reinhard.kotucha at web.de; Denis Bitouzé; tex-live at tug.org
Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name

2014/1/19 Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk>:
> I just think it is a bad message to send to users that in order to install you need to install this an this program to get the installation to work on windows.
>
> Imagine what that user is going to tell his or her friends about the installation of TL (they will not know this is not the 'standard' way in which to install TL)
>
> I'm not saying Denis' solution isn't great, it looks very interesting. I'm going to try it out to see if the transfer is faster.
>
> There is also the transplant script I made earlier, that might be even faster if it wasn't for the massive time it takes to transfer files from USB to HD on Windows (in this case a ZIP) plus the time it takes to unzip.
> I haven't had a chance to use it myself as I'm not involved in the student mass-installation.
>
NTFS is known to be slow when transfering lots of small files. If you
expect that users will copy the installation, ISO will be better. If
the students will not copy it and install directly, it should be
comparable because they have to write the files anyway.

If you have no network in the class, have you tried to use Raspberry
PI as the installation source? You can use even USB WiFi AP in it. I
have not tried it under heavy load so I do not know how stable it is.
>
> /Lars Madsen
> Institut for Matematik / Department of Mathematics
> Aarhus Universitet / Aarhus University
> Mere info: http://au.dk/daleif@imf / More information: http://au.dk/en/daleif@imf
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: tex-live [tex-live-bounces at tug.org] on behalf of Reinhard Kotucha [reinhard.kotucha at web.de]
> Sent: 19 January 2014 12:19
> To: Denis Bitouzé
> Cc: tex-live at tug.org
> Subject: Re: [tex-live] Install file of the TL should have unique name
>
> On 2014-01-19 at 11:18:21 +0100, Denis Bitouzé wrote:
>
>  > Le dimanche 19/01/14 à 06h35,
>  > Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard.kotucha at web.de> a écrit :
>  >
>  > > Sorry Denis, but "install-tl" ***is*** the generic Linux, Mac and
>  > > Windows installer.
>  >
>  > OK, nice.
>  >
>  > > The batch files are only stupid wrapper scripts for Windows.
>  >
>  > OK.
>  >
>  > > On any reasonable operating systems you can invoke install-tl
>  > > directly.
>  >
>  > I guess that's because not every operating system is reasonable
>  > that install-tl.bat is provided in addition to install-tl. Hence
>  > the possible confusion. Hence my request to reduce possible
>  > confusions as much as possible.
>
> I think that nobody can describe the situation better than a colleague
> of mine: He proudly said "My son can't read or write yet, but he's
> using Windows already."
>
>  > >  >> I strongly recommend to evaluate Lars' approach.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Even with this clarification?
>  > >
>  > > No, sorry for the noise.
>  >
>  > Well, sorry to insist: do you mean that providing an ***up to date***
>  > tlnet/ directory as an ordinary directory (with zillions files and
>  > subdirectories) is definitively better than a single ISO image (along
>  > with WinCDEmu)? If so, could you explain why?
>
> No, I meant that I agree with you.
>
> Regards,
>   Reinhard
>
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