[tex-live] Where is the root dir of my Tex Live installation

Gerald Pechoc ubuntu at pechoc.eu
Sat Nov 16 12:19:19 CET 2013

And what is that dummy package good for?
Does it mean that my packager manager knows in future to look for 
updates, for example?


On 2013-11-16 11:43, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> 2013/11/16 Gerald Pechoc <ubuntu at pechoc.eu>:
>> Please, what is eqivs stuff?
> This is a dummy package informing the system packaging manager that
> TeX is already installed. It certainly exists for Debian.
>> gerald
>> On 2013-11-16 08:24, Lars Madsen wrote:
>>> Sounds reasonable regarding the linking.
>>> The thing I'd like to see in TL is some script or what ever that will
>>> take care if the equivs stuff (or how ever you are doing that trick).
>>> There are many Ubuntu vanilla TL users, and most of them find the equivs
>>> stuff confusing (even though, the recipe on Tug.org is easy to follow)
>>> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com)
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* Scott Kostyshak [skostysh at lyx.org]
>>> *Received:* lørdag, 16 nov. 2013, 3:38
>>> *To:* Lars Madsen [daleif at imf.au.dk]
>>> *CC:* ubuntu at pechoc.eu [ubuntu at pechoc.eu]; tex-live at tug.org
>>> [tex-live at tug.org]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [tex-live] Where is the root dir of my Tex Live
>>> installation
>>> Hi Lars,
>>> Thanks for the comments. See my responses in-line.
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Lars Madsen <daleif at imf.au.dk> wrote:
>>>> Scott, I noticed that you mention on the Web page at it installs or at
>>>> least
>>>> links the installation where Ubuntu would have installed it.
>>>> Then what when people want to uninstaller? Fx we do not really encourage
>>>> users to use the "link into usual places" feature because people tend to
>>>> forget they made them and end up in a lot of mess.
>>> I'm surprised that no one has put a feature request for an uninstaller
>>> yet. However, I don't see how the linking in particular poses a
>>> problem. The uninstaller would just delete the link. Let me explain
>>> more the purpose of the linking. I'm not trying to fool Ubuntu into
>>> thinking that TeX Live is in the same location as it would have been
>>> if installed from the repositories. I'm informing TeX Live (the manual
>>> install) of the location where many auxiliary LaTeX packages would be
>>> installed with an "apt-get". Please let me know if you want more of an
>>> explanation or if you have suggestions for how to improve things
>>> (perhaps you are suggesting that not doing the linking at all would be
>>> an improvement?).
>>> The following is what the linking does:
>>> if [ "${LINK_UBUNTU}" = 1 ]; then
>>>       cd "$(kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFLOCAL)/tex/"
>>>       ln -s "/usr/share/texmf/tex/" "UbuntuTexDir"
>>> fi
>>>> Other than that interesting idea.
>>>> Please consider submitting some of this to the tl project to make life
>>>> easier for (some) users.
>>> I'm happy to work with anyone. However, I think that install-tl-ubuntu
>>> and the TeX Live project have different goals. My interpretation (and
>>> I wouldn't be surprised if I misunderstood something here) is that the
>>> TeX Live project wants to encourage users to have a non-automated and
>>> flexible TeX Live installation, which should be done after reading the
>>> TeX Live Guide, or perhaps only the Quick install guide. I think this
>>> is the correct approach and would not want things to be different.
>>> There are also the TeX Live packages in the Ubuntu repository but I
>>> don't know if those are encouraged or not.
>>> My goals with install-tl-ubuntu are automation and simplicity, at the
>>> cost of some hackishness and assumptions (although install-tl-ubuntu
>>> does provide a fair amount of options, doing a manual install is far
>>> more flexible). I think this approach is less "correct" but is liked
>>> by many users of Ubuntu who do not want to spend the time reading and
>>> understanding the installation steps and are just looking for
>>> something that pretty much works and that integrates with other parts
>>> of Ubuntu (e.g. apt); or are looking for something that can be put on
>>> autopilot.
>>> I am very interested in any feedback and suggestions. I know little
>>> about TeX Live and proper installation. Despite this lack of
>>> expertise, I continue to suggest the install-tl-ubuntu script as an
>>> option to consider because the feedback that I've gotten is that it
>>> has indeed made things simple for users.
>>> Thanks again for your comments,
>>> Scott

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