[tex-live] [Fwd: Re: TeXLive Perl + latexmk (windows)]

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard mpg at elzevir.fr
Fri Apr 16 00:21:41 CEST 2010

Reinhard Kotucha a écrit :
> I don't object if people adapt GUIs for particular systems.  But I
> don't think that anybody avoids TeX Live only because tlmgr's Perl/Tk
> interface doesn't provide color gradients in title bars.
Well, said this way, obviously not. But the look and feel (and in particular,
feeling "at home") is an important part of the user experience IMO.

> Unfortunately I don't have a Mac.  As far as I understand MacTeX
> adapts tlmgr's GUI.  But is tlmgr's CLI kept intact?  I hope so.
tlmgr is intact, including its gui (but, as I understand it, the gui will only
work for people who previously installed Perl/Tk hence X11, not installed by
default, and I'm not sure which proportion of OS X user it represents). But
another GUI is provided, named TeX Live Utility, which looks like it belong on a
Mac (or so I heard, never had the occasion to test myself, yet). I'm not even
sure if TLU is included in MacTeX or has to be installed independently.

> But if you are concerned about color gradients in title bar
> backgrounds, you actually treat users as idiots.  Sorry.
Still disagree. Not only idiots appreciate good-looking apps. Not only idiots
are sometimes afraid by computer stuff, and need to be reassured by a familiar look.

But there's no point in discussing this further, I'm sure neither of us will
change our mind about it. So, I'll try to stop arguing (which is sometimes
difficult for me (stopping, not arguing)) and get some actual work done instead.


PS: I happen to have color gradients in the current theme of my window manager.
However, my friends keep being afraid of my computer for some mysterious reason.
(I mean, zsh with vi keybindings is *very* user-friendly.)

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