[tex-live] SysAdmin Stuff (Was: Re: tl09 release status: coming up)
siepo at cybercomm.nl
Tue Oct 13 10:25:45 CEST 2009
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 03:35:57PM -0700, C.M. Connelly wrote:
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> (Changing the subject line, as this message is veering pretty far
> away from the original topic.)
> "SK" == Siep Kroonenberg <siepo at cybercomm.nl>
> "CMC" == C.M. Connelly <cmc at math.hmc.edu>
> "RF" == Robin Fairbairns <Robin.Fairbairns at cl.cam.ac.uk>
> SK> E.g. if you sysadmin doesn't give you enough rights on
> SK> your computer.
> CMC> I can assure you that if one of my users installed TeX Live
> CMC> in their own account, I would be very, very unhappy with
> CMC> them, and I'm fairly sure I speak for most sysadmins.
> RF> depends what you mean by "their own account" (it's
> RF> ambiguous).
> I meant in their home directory. We actually trust people so much
> that we don't have quotas, but we also don't have huge amounts of
> space on the server so good citizenship is a must.
> RF> i wouldn't mind in the slightest if they chose to install
> RF> it on scratch space on their own computer ... except
> RF> insofar as they failed to install it and expected me to
> RF> pick up the pieces.
> Right, which is why I'm not enthusiastic about letting people
> install random things on machines I manage. If they want
> something, and it's sane, I give it to them. If not, I explain
> why and encourage them to try it on their own machines (or on
> their laptops, which are less locked down).
The root of the installation has a script tl-portable for running
from usb or from the original media without installing.
The text mode installer has an option `run from dvd' which
unfortunately again didn't make it into the gui installer.
Situations where a non-admin install makes sense:
At our university, most people use Windows. The standard university
desktop has a second partition on the hard drive, which is a good
place to install TeX into.
It is not uncommon that an installation ties itself into a knot and
has to be re-installed, for which there are semi-automated
procedures. A non-admin install on the second partition should
survive such an operation intact.
Although here they might as well use the university-provided network
And, as mentioned before, there is also the Vista problem.
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