[tex-live] Install Texlive 2008 "The Pirate Bay" website --- uncompressed

[Zdenek Wagner]

2008/10/8 David Kastrup <dak at gnu.org>:
> Patrice Dumas <pertusus at free.fr> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:17:26PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>> So if you are wearing any clothes at all, picking a particular color is
>>> censorship?  If you only buy particular papers rather than grabbing the
>>> first off the counter, that is censorship?
>>>
>>> Others call that choice.  You are arguing against us having a choice.  I
>>> don't see what this has to do with freedom.
>>
>> Maybe censorship is not really appropriate. The right analogy, in my
>> opinion would be that you refuse to sell your book to a shop
>
> Not _to_ a shop, but _through_ a shop.  And exclusively.
>
>> that also sells book you don't like, (like porn books, for
>> example). If this is for a brand or for attracting customers, fine
>> (although this is in general forbidden, for competitivness issues,
>
> No, it isn't.  I am free to pick distributors for my books.  I can't
> prohibit the resale of books bought through channels I permitted.  But I
> certainly am free to pick my original distributor any way I want.
>
The situation is different, it is not refusing to sell the book via a
shop that sell porn, but via a shop that puts porn ads to my book.

>> but here this is not really relevant, texlive is free), but there
>> should be metrics that prove it. Otherwise this is not direct
>> censorship, but indirect, through discrimination.
>
> It is one of the great evils of our times that people don't discriminate
> what they support as long as makes things cheap for them.  They think
> that they have no choice but support war, child labor, animal and human
> torture and other things because it makes things cheaper for them, and
> they should not look beyond the price for whatever misbegotten reason.
>
> Whether or not we choose to distribute through Pirate Bay or not is a
> rather unimportant choice in comparison.
>
> But your line of argument, that one should not discriminate between
> things that are different, is used for quite worse decisions and
> non-decisions.  Personally, I am not bothered all too much about porn
> ads but am perfectly comfortable with picking a channel that more users
> and developers will feel appropriate.  But I am bothered about people
> who preach ignoring one's values, conscience, and ability to choose and
> make a difference.
>
> Apathy is not a virtue.
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>



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