Draft of LUG letter
Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:09:50 +0000 (GMT)
Arthur Ogawa writes:
> > > CD, called COPYING.
> > what?????????????? who do you think is going to write this????
> Peter Deutsch asked for this (details separately), and I volunteer to write
i am not sure you realize what you are taking on. there are
533+ packages to look at... but I do have some information coming in
now about copyright after a massive mailing. dont get stuck into this
without talking to me further....
> Also, below I mention a flyer. I propose to write this as well.
thats easier :-}
> No, shipping would be *extra*. Patricia thinks she can get ca
> 0.70USD per CD, but other expenses have to be factored in, shipping
> is extra, etc.
0.7 per CD is probably excluding the plastic sleeve, at least. you
need to decide how to pack it.
> Would you mind telling me exactly what you charged to the various
> entities that "purchased" TL3, and what the quantities were? Like I
see previous email
> I'd like to do it your way, but Peter Deutsch's terms are GNU-like, and
> require no prohibition on further copying, except that the copies
is the tail wagging the dog here? GS is not the most important thing
on the CD
> come out the other end with consensus. Singed or not. Maybe I'm
> being overly optimistic.
lord knows why, when all the evidence is that TeXxies fight like dogs
> Because these requirements vary so much between different portions of the
> software on the CD, TUG would prefer that you simply pass the CD on to your
> members and allow TUG to bear the burden of handling unusual requests for
> distribution of the CD.
I like that
> The recipient of the CD itself can only copy and redistribute the
> software thereon by complying with the conditions placed on the
> relevant packages involved. To facilitate this, TUG will prepare a
> one-sheet flyer announcing the TeX Live CD and mentioning the
> copying conditions (TUG will, e.g., publish this flyer in the
> relevant issue of TUGboat). It will refer to a file in the root
> directory, /COPYING, that explains things in greater detail.
ok, so long as you accept that a good many packages will be "unknown,
cannot contact author"
> You may copy and distribute software from this CD only if you
> comply with the requirements placed thereon by the owners of the
> respective software packages.
> The file /COPYING gives further
> details on the matter, and each package itself contains
> restrictions relevant to that package.
or maybe not....
> The creators of these packages variously require that the copies fulfill one
> or more of the following:
> * Be copyable under the GNU Public License or variations thereof. In general
> terms, you must place no further copying restrictions on the recipient.
> * Be copyable under the <LaTeXCopyLeft>. This applies to the LaTeX kernel and
> other portions of LaTeX proper. Other software on the CD may as well employ
> the <LaTeXCopyLeft>.
LaTeX Project Public License. and yes, it is becoming widely adopted
> * Continue to be attributed to the author.
> * Entire package to be distributed intact.
> * If altered, not to be distributed under the same name as the original.
these are LPPL conditions
> * Not be distributed for profit.
this is not
> * Not be used for commercial purposes without license directly from
> * the author.
I hate Bernard
> In general, the licensors of the software simply wish to ensure that their
> work continue to benefit people like you. Please respect their intentions.
some of them want to make money