<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">dear Jonathan,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">in 1995 I organized a conference at Technion University in Haifa, and I had a famous linguist</div><div class="">and member of the Hebrew Academy, Uzzi Ornan (he is still alive and well, at the age of 97!),</div><div class="">who gave a presentation on the hyphenation of Hebrew.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I saw your message I placed the video of the presentation on Youtube:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://youtu.be/VmEHaS_f_eE" class="">https://youtu.be/VmEHaS_f_eE</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Basically the problem with Hebrew is that sometimes it is used in abjad mode and sometimes</div><div class="">in phonographic mode. When in abjad mode, the eye has to see the whole word to analyze it</div><div class="">morphologically and breaking it can hinder reading alot. When in phonographic mode (for</div><div class="">example for foreign words) hyphenation is possible without slowing down reading too much.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The problem is of course that hyphenation patterns apply everywhere and it is hard to distinguish</div><div class="">abjad from phonographic words. It is not impossible, but difficult, and requires a large hyphenated</div><div class="">corpus.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Are you ready to do some work? For example, if I supply you with the list of Hebrew Wiktionary</div><div class="">entries (there are ~ 22 thousand of them) are you willing to mark those that are abjad with an</div><div class="">asterisk and give hyphenation for those that are phonographic?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Examples:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">פּוֹלִיפוֹנִיָה is phonographic, it is a Greek word and it can be hyphenated as פּוֹ-לִי-פוֹ-נִיָה</div><div class="">סֵפֶר is abjad, it should not be hyphenated</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me know what you are planning/willing to do</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yannis<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 28 févr. 2021 à 10:52, Yonatan Zilpa <<a href="mailto:yz11235@gmail.com" class="">yz11235@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="rtl" class=""><div class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Arthur,<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks a lot for your willingness to help. Hebrew is an RTL (Right to Left) language. Thus the default English hyphenation pattern doesn't work in Hebrew. First I would like to adjust the lines in such a way that long words would be split between lines automatically. Second I would like to write a hyphenation pattern file for Hebrew language to hyphenate well known hyphenated words. <br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Kind regards,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""> Jonathan Zilpa<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="rtl" class="gmail_attr">בתאריך שבת, 27 בפבר׳ 2021 ב-23:09 מאת Arthur Rosendahl <<a href="mailto:arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org" class="">arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org</a>>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Dear Jonatan Zilpa,<br class="">
<br class="">
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 07:08:48PM +0200, Yonatan Zilpa wrote:<br class="">
> Dear Mojca Miklavec / Arthur Reutenauer,<br class="">
> I would like to write a hyphenation pattern for Hebrew for XeLaTex /<br class="">
> Polyglossia.<br class="">
> May you please help me by providing guidance on how to do this.<br class="">
<br class="">
We can help you with that, but note that Mojca and I are only<br class="">
responsible for distributing the patterns, we may not be the most<br class="">
knowledgeable ones about hyphenation in one particular language. I do,<br class="">
however, know that Hebrew is not normally hyphenated, so can you<br class="">
give a little more details on what you’d like to do?<br class="">
<br class="">
Best,<br class="">
<br class="">
Arthur Rosendahl (né Reutenauer)<br class="">
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