[tex-hyphen] tamil and malayalam

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear Kevin & Siji,

Thanks a lot for you contribution with patterns.

There's only one main question. The patterns for OpenOffice come from
the following git repository:
- http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/smc.git/tree/hyphenation
and are relatively "well maintained" (last change in repository in February).

But the question is: the patterns are different - which ones should I
take then? Or rather: what is the difference between the ones that
Santhosh Thottingal has made and the ones sent to XeTeX mailing list
by Kevin & Siji?

(I was planning to import all the eleven patterns from that
repository, though at the time when I noticed them I didn't know of
any pending request to include them to TeX distribution. Now that
already two people have asked, it probably makes a lot of sense to
include them.)

Maybe it's best if we discuss the differences off-list (with Kevin &
Siji, Yves and Santhosh Thottingal; or anyone else that's interested)
in order not to have too much "spam" on the mailing list.


On 2010/3/16 François Charette wrote:
> On 16/03/2010 15:57, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Where did that person post the patterns?
>
> On the xetex mailing list, two days ago.

Thanks a lot. I checked through archive shortly, but the subject was a
bit misleading.

> I also have gloss files for Marathi, Bengali and Telugu pending integration
> into polyglossia, but no hyphenation patterns for them yet. If you or Arthur
> can convert the ones available from OpenOffice, that would be wonderful :)

We don't need to convert them at all. We just need to put
"\patterns{...}" around the patterns, auto-generate the loaders and
notify Norbert or someone else to add a new package to TeX Live (and
MikTeX/W32TeX?).

>> In my opinion it makes little sense to activate them by default, but
>> on the other hand a complete TeX Live installation loads *all* the
>> patterns since installing a package is equal to activating the
>> patterns (at least in TeX Live). MikTeX has some graphical user
>> interface to choose which patterns to install.
>
> Let's leave that decision to Karl, Norbert and others then ;)

There's probably no decision. We'll have to ask Norbert to create a
new package and that's it. I hope that memory will suffice for a dozen
more patterns until TeX Live 2010 :)

There's something else that we might want to considered at the same
time. A group of Lua(La)TeX enthusiast wants to switch to on-the-fly
loading of hyphenation patterns. This means that we will have to
modify loadhyph-xx.tex anyway (they want to parse patterns with lua
instead of using TeX).

In a way I would like to split language.dat into two files (one for
8-bit and one for Unicode engines), but that may still wait ... It's
only that pdfTeX will have a dozen or more of useless languages
defined.

Mojca