[pdftex] Follow up - Possible to use font from included PDF in main
johnstone234 at hotmail.com
Fri May 2 23:02:17 CEST 2003
I wrote the original post to this thread. William replied below. He says
it's not possible, and encourages me to just buy the font and install it. I
wish that I could. Here's some detail on why I asked the question:
I am running PDFLaTeX on a database server (not a web server), as the engine
for a database driven report writing system. The big font manufacturers
like ITC and Berthold license their fonts for desktop use only, per my
readings of the licenses. I asked about getting a server license, and was
told I couldn't afford it by one manufacturer. When I pressed, I was told
"thousands per font per year." They refused to even reply to repeated
emails when I asked how many thousands. I did get the proposed license
agreement from the other big manufacturer, and they want $2,000 per font
family (regular, bold, italic and bold-italic) per machine per year.
However, they have the right to not renew the contract each year, or change
the price. Given the entire server in question costs less than $2,000, I am
finding their prices hard to swallow. Note that I do own licenses to the
fonts for desktop use, so that's how I would be able to derive font metrics
legally, if there were a way to tell PDFLaTeX to use the fonts embedded in
an included PDF. Note that the included PDF will be the same size as the
output, and will contain the type that is the static part of the document
(imagine invoices). The only thing I am missing is a way to set the dynamic
remaining text in the same font.
Note that the font licenses I own DO PERMIT font embedding in PDFs, so I
believe I will be legal if I can get PDFLaTeX to do what I am proposing.
The license issue is really all about the machine being a server, not a
desktop. Frankly, since almost all PCs today have a webserver on them, most
users would seem to be technically violating their font licenses, so this
all is a gray area it seems to me. However, I really want to be technically
legal, thus my question.
Based on this new information, can anyone think of a way to tell PDFLaTeX to
set the type in the font embedded in an included PDF? With all the fancy
tricks out there, it really seems like this might be possible. I would also
be willing to use LaTeX and then convert the DVI to PS and the PS to PDF if
that would work, or a similar combination.
Another entire approach would be to find another software package that has
lots of fonts in it that does allow it to be installed on a server. Any
John Stone asked:
>I am including a PDF document with an embedded font in a PDFLaTeX document.
> Is it possible to tell PDFLaTeX to set the main document text
>using the font embedded in the included PDF? The actual font would not
>be installed on the machine running PDFLaTeX, but I am open to
>installing any files that I can derive (metrics etc...) from the actual
>font without actually copying the actual font to the PDFLaTeX machine. I am
>willing to use PostScript or TrueType fonts in the included PDF, if
No. Why should you be able to use a font which you apparently don't
have a license for?
Either it's commercial, in which case you should purchase it, or it's
freely distributable, in which case you should just go get and install a
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