[OS X TeX] Lost floats

Manfred Braun manfred.braun at uni-due.de
Wed Aug 20 20:18:14 CEST 2014 

Did you try the placeins.sty package? Maybe it helps to get some partial control on the placement of floats.

Manfred
 
On 20.08.2014, at 20:59, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:

> Thanks for the (encouraging?) suggestion.  I may try it.  At the moment, by rewriting the equation* as an inline equation (via $…$) and simply eliminating the first, offending \item in my list, I am able to make do--but still am in the dark as to how I can 
> avoid this problem in the future.
> 
> Ziggy N
> 
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 13:50, Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>> I have of course no idea of what the problem might be---if only because I don't use floats, but when I have an error that does not make sense to me, I try to "re-construct". 
>> 
>> Yesterday, something like that happened to me: There was a lone dot in the middle of a blank space and when I removed it, it wouldn't compile!!! And the error was given to be a hundred lines down the pike.
>> 
>> Commenting out the whole section, it would compile. Uncommenting piece by piece did not work. Either it compiled or it did not and the error was still given to be a hundred lines down the pike. It seemed to be the dot and only the dot.
>> 
>> What I finally do in such case is to "re-construct". The idea is to *copy only pure text*. Any construction, I redo from scratch. If there is, say, an itemization, I insert a blank itemization in which I then enter, one by one, pieces of *pure text* from the commented-out itemization. 
>> 
>> It's a real chore but ... it worked. And I still don't know how that lone dot was doing it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> --schremmer
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. wrote:
>> 
>>> It doesn't make sense to me, since it is only certain specific items (one particular equation* environment, but not other, longer ones;  one particular \item, but not other longer ones) that cause the problem.  At Nestor Aguilera's suggestion, I tried changing the floats themselves from an [htbp] option to just [p], but this didn't have any effect.
>>> Z
>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 12:18, George Gratzer <gratzer at me.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Could it be a spacing problem? Delete something and then there is room for the floats?
>>>> 
>>>> GG
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I'll hunt for that.  But hen why would it work OK if the equation* environment in one place and the one \item (but not the others in the same list) is commented out?
>>>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:37, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Even more curious.  If I comment out the text for the equation* environment, the floats continue to disappear (so it is not the actual material inside the equation*).  When I replace the equation* environment with in-line equation (i.e., $…$), with the content of the equation* included,  the floats reappear.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now, uncommenting more, later material (including some other equation* environments), all goes well, until I come to a list: an "itemize" environment, with several items.  Most of these items have no effect on the floats (i.e., they don't disappear), except for a single item
>>>>>>>> \item The statement that $\Levof{f}{c}\cap R$ is the graph of \phiof{x} means that the function
>>>>>>>> \phiof{x} is uniquely determined by \refer{eqn}{implicitfunct}.
>>>>>>> (I am no longer trying to replace the macros here with their definitions, because in the past the content appeared not to be the problem. ) If the itemize environment has only this item, the floats disappear.  If I comment this out but include the other 3-4 items, the floats reappear.  And if then I again uncomment the single item (leaving the others uncommented)  the floats disappear again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "What a long, strange trip…"
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:29, "Nitecki, Zbigniew H." <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Help!
>>>>>>>> I have no idea even how to approach this problem.
>>>>>>>> I am getting lost floats messages (which I did not get before) when I include in my text (a few pages before the given floats) the following totally innocuous equation:
>>>>>>>> *************************************************
>>>>>>>> \begin{equation*}
>>>>>>>> g_{a}(y_{0}-\delta_{2})<0<g_{a}(y_{0}+\delta_{2})
>>>>>>>> \end{equation*}
>>>>>>>> ****************************************************
>>>>>>>> and when I comment out just this equation the floats no longer disappear.
>>>>>>>> What can possibly be causing this kind of behavior?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Z
>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 17:23, "Nitecki, Zbigniew H." <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am totally dumbfounded on this.
>>>>>>>>> I totally commented out everything I had been tinkering with, and the floats worked fine.  Then I started uncommenting bits;  I narrowed at least one source of the problem to the following equation:
>>>>>>>>>> \begin{equation*}
>>>>>>>>>> \gsof{a}{\yso-\delts{2}}<0<\gsof{a}{\yso+\delts{2}}
>>>>>>>>>> \end{equation*}
>>>>>>>>> and have dredged up all the definitions of the macros used in it:
>>>>>>>>>> \newcommand{\gsof}[2]{\ensuremath{\subof{g}{#1}{#2}}}% subscripted function g
>>>>>>>>>> \newcommand{\subof}[3]{\of{#1_{#2}}{#3}}%subscripted function of
>>>>>>>>>> \newcommand{\ys}[1]{\ensuremath{y_{#1}}}%subscripted y
>>>>>>>>>> \newcommand{\yso}{\ys{0}}
>>>>>>>>>> \newcommand{\delts}[1]{\ensuremath{\delta_{#1}}}%subscripted delta
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nothing unusual that I can see.  But this is at least one of the culprits: when I comment out this equation, the floats all work fine.  When I then uncomment JUST those three lines (the equation) from what just worked, two of the floats get lost.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Huh????
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Z
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 15:33, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Nitecki, Zbigniew H. <Zbigniew.Nitecki at tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm encountering a rather disastrous problem for which I can't provide a minimal example, since it is the maximal structure that seems to be causing it.  I'm asking for suggestions on how to trouble shoot it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the situation:  I am revising a large book project, and in particular I have a set of pst-3D pictures set up in complicated floats (with sub floats, etc).  These have never caused problems until just now.  I was tinkering with some text several pages before these floats when I started getting the error message "Floats lost".  I tried to track down what was causing this problem, and ultimately commented out the whole section of text (which has no direct connection to the floats in question--they are in a different section  ) which resulted in still getting the error message, but the floats which get lost seem to vary with what I comment out in the text.  (That is, some lost ones reappear, but others disappear) I have no idea how to proceed from here, since anything that might have been embedded in the text I was tinkering with has been commented out, and before I started tinkering there was no error message.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I seemed to recall that in the previous version of this book project I ran into some problems having to do with memory--I think--and it was resolved by following each of these megafloats with the line "\afterpage{\clearpage}".  I found one of these commented out in my present version and restored it--again changing which floats get lost, but not the fact that some are always being lost.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Zbigniew Nitecki
>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Mathematics
>>>>>>>>>>> Tufts University
>>>>>>>>>>> Medford, MA 02155
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My first guess (and it's only a guess) is that LaTeX can't find an ``acceptable'' location for the floats because of the added text. I'm not sure how you fix that but others here should be able to help.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>>>>>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zbigniew Nitecki
>>>>>>>>> Department of Mathematics
>>>>>>>>> Tufts University
>>>>>>>>> Medford, MA 02155
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Zbigniew Nitecki
>>>>>>>> Department of Mathematics
>>>>>>>> Tufts University
>>>>>>>> Medford, MA 02155
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Zbigniew Nitecki
>>>>>>> Department of Mathematics
>>>>>>> Tufts University
>>>>>>> Medford, MA 02155
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now it's beginning to sound like a list environment of some sort that isn't being closed; i.e., no \end{...}.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Zbigniew Nitecki
>>>>> Department of Mathematics
>>>>> Tufts University
>>>>> Medford, MA 02155
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> Zbigniew Nitecki
> Department of Mathematics
> Tufts University
> Medford, MA 02155
> 
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