# [OS X TeX] TeX on the iPad (again)

J. McKenzie Alexander jalex at lse.ac.uk
Fri May 28 22:46:50 CEST 2010

Dear all,

I'm sorry to return to what must be a tediously over discussed subject, but are there any plans to bring a version of TeX, even a minimal version, to the iPad? I realize that there might be some concerns about Apple's stance against general purpose interpreted languages on the iPad, but i can hardly believe that would apply to TeX, even though it is Turing complete. (You could play Quake in TeX, but why would you want to?)

Jason

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>   1. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Themis Matsoukas)
>   2. Re: Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer)
>   3. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer)
>   4. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org)
>   5. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Themis Matsoukas)
>   6. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org)
>   7. Re: xelatex fontmap error (Peter Dyballa)
>   8. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org)
>   9. cfr-lm: users? documentation? (Dr. Clea F. Rees)
>  10. Re: cfr-lm: users? documentation? (Alan T Litchfield)
>  11. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer)
>  12. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
>      (RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno)
>  13. Re: Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer)
>  14. From OzTeX to TeXShop (Josep Maria Font)
>  15. Re: From OzTeX to TeXShop (Peter Dyballa)
>  16. Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop (RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:40:34 -0400
> From: Themis Matsoukas <tmatsoukas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
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> On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows.  I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College.
>>
>
> How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student who will figure it?
>
>> But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that would be likely to give me the information I would need. For instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need help there.
>>
>
> I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document Maker and then compiles it.  But of course I am not helping here because I really don't know how to do any of this...
>
> Themis
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:36:15 -0400
> From: Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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>
> On May 27, 2010, at 2:36 PM, RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno wrote:
>
>>
>> Aloha Alain,
>>
>> If you want the simplicity of TeXShop I would go with TeXworks
>> <http://www.tug.org/texworks/> (it comes with MacTeX 2009 so you
>> have a copy, for the Mac, installed). Another multi-platform choice is
>> TeXmakerX http://texmakerx.sourceforge.net/> a branch of TeXmaker
>> (which
>> does not have its own pdf previewer, though). Then of course you
>> would need
>> a TeX installation (TeXLive or MikTeX would do).
>>
>> Enjoy!
>
> Hooold it. Why is everyone assuming that I, schremmer, want a Windows
> installation? I don't even have a windows box. In fact, I don't even
> have a TV or a cell phone. Please bear with me:
>
> [A] Say I want the Answer Key to Homework 7 for RAF. Here is what I
> have to do:
>
> 	(1) Doubleclick RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls >  7.tex
>
> 	(2) Uncomment \AnswerKey (And make sure all other commands are
> commented)
>
> 	(3) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (Both 7.tex and 7.pdf appear)
>
> 	(4) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (A second time)
>
> 	(5) Click on Print in 7.pdf
>
> And that is it. I got my Answer Key to Homework 7.
>
> [B] So, what I tell teachers who have a Mac, are not the least
> interested in LaTex, but who do want the Answer Key to Homework 7 is:
>
> (including TeXShop) (once and for all) Now forget about it.
> 	b) Do the above 5 steps.
>
> [C] All I want to know about Windows is what to tell teachers who
> have a Windows box what to do instead of a). Then I will try to
> borrow a box and figure out what to tell them for what to do instead
> of b).
>
> [D] It is because a lot of teachers might accept to do a) but will
> still refuse to do b) that I am thinking of making the FrontEnd.
>
> Hopeful regards
> --The OP (schremmer)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:51:55 -0400
> From: Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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>
> On May 27, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows.
>>>> I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to
>>>> hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College.
>>
>> How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student
>> who will figure it?
>
> A guaranteed A would not work
>
>>> But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that
>>> would be likely to give me the information I would need. For
>>> instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows
>>> world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need
>>> to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need
>>> help there.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in
>> windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates
>> a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document
>> Maker and then compiles it.
>
> I will look up what an executable file is.
>
> I visualized the Assessment Document Maker setting the switches in,
> say, RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls >  7.tex  and then after the
> TYPESET AND DISPLAY PDF button is clicked, the same Assessment
> Document Maker going about getting LaTeX to compile the file 7.tex
> calls via.
>
> \include{../HOMEWORKS-contents/\jobname}
>
> I think I can do it on the Mac but am sure I don't know even how to
> start on Windows.
>
> Regards
> --schremmer
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:53:04 +0100 (BST)
> From: cfrees at imapmail.org
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error
> To: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written:
>
>>
>> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees:
>>
>>> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc
>>
>> This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4.
>> None of my MAP file fragments has this line.
>>
> Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look
> anything like any map file entry I've seen.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it?
>>
>>
>> Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map!
>> uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi.
> This looks normal. eg:
> uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc <uagd8a.pfb
> uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc <uagd8a.pfb
>
> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from?
>
> Thanks very much,
> cfr
>
>> You can disable exactly this font,
>> you can also switch to the real (Adobe) PostScript fonts.
>> And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX Live
>> 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But I don't
>> know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating the whole
>> package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll need to
>> recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file fragment.
>>
>> Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009
>> without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones.
>>
>> --
>> Greetings
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> Don't force it; get a larger hammer.
>> 				ñ Anthony's Law of Force
>>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:52 -0400
> From: Themis Matsoukas <tmatsoukas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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> On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>
>> A guaranteed A would not work
>
>
> Why are you so pessimistic?
>
> Themis
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:54:00 +0100 (BST)
> From: cfrees at imapmail.org
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Cc: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
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>
> On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 21:53, cfrees at imapmail.org seems to have written:
>
>> On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees:
>>>
>>>> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc
>>>
>>> This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4.
>>> None of my MAP file fragments has this line.
>>>
>> Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look
>> anything like any map file entry I've seen.
>
> So I figured out where this is coming from and am currently generating
> new map files with updmap-sys. Hopefully this will solve the problem.
>
> I guess there are some map file fragments which are OK for pdftex but
> which xetex doesn't like... Several maps designed for use with context
> look problematic, though other files apparently intended for use with
> context look perfectly normal...
>
> Thanks,
> cfr
>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map!
>>> uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi.
>> This looks normal. eg:
>> uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc <uagd8a.pfb
>> uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc <uagd8a.pfb
>>
>> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> cfr
>>
>>> You can disable exactly this font, you can also switch to the real (Adobe)
>>> PostScript fonts.
>>> And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX
>>> Live 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But
>>> I don't know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating
>>> the whole package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll
>>> need to recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file
>>> fragment.
>>>
>>> Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009
>>> without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> Don't force it; get a larger hammer.
>>> 				ñ Anthony's Law of Force
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:49:38 +0200
> From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error
> To: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" <cfrees at imapmail.org>
> Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Message-ID: <16D2A00D-2CE0-40FC-AB88-4A7F872CF3E7 at Web.DE>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
> 	delsp=yes
>
>
> Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org:
>
>> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from?
>
>
> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is
> the standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's
> as clean as you cite, then it could come from some private or local
> MAP file fragment (I have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of
> my PostScript 3 printer). XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP
> file. With TeX Live 2009 a first default variant is installed and
> sometimes updated: /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/
> updmap/pdftex.map. The system's working copy is a symbolic link: /usr/
> local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you
> can use it like the file itself). One command you could try is:
>
> 	wc -l /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/
> pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/
> pdftex.map
>
> It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify
> the command like this:
>
> 	grep uagd8a /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/
> pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/
> pdftex.map
>
> This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It
> will not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would
> need to iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command
> could perform the search:
>
> 	find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name
> "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \;
>
> I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys
> script had introduced the fault. This could be checked by running:
>
> 	sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys --
> disable uag.map
> 	sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys --
> enable Map=uag.map
>
> The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell
> scripts performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of
> commands or statements when all the MAP fragments are processed.
> Somewhere there the error happened. Or later, when the first created
> output files are prepared for actual use and modified for other
> convertors. It's very likely that the same error will *not* happen
> again. When you now, after updmap-sys has finished, invoke again the
> first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp. 'grep uagd8a', you
> should see very similar results and no faulty line. If you'll still
> see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that can't be
> solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and
> private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an
> archive of all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours)
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>   Pete
>
> The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
> discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny..."
> 				ñ Isaac Asimov
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:34:54 +0100 (BST)
> From: cfrees at imapmail.org
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error
> To: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Fri 28th May, 2010 at 00:49, Peter Dyballa seems to have written:
>
>>
>> Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org:
>>
>>> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from?
>>
>>
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is the
>> standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's as clean as
>> you cite, then it could come from some private or local MAP file fragment (I
>> have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of my PostScript 3 printer).
>> XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP file. With TeX Live 2009 a first
>> default variant is installed and sometimes updated:
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map. The
>> system's working copy is a symbolic link:
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you can
>> use it like the file itself). One command you could try is:
>>
>> 	wc -l
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
>>
>> It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify the
>> command like this:
>>
>> 	grep uagd8a
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map
>>
>> This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It will
>> not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would need to
>> iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command could perform the
>> search:
>>
>> 	find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name
>> "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \;
>
> Yes. I was rather afraid that might be the answer.
>
>> I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys script had
>> introduced the fault. This could be checked by running:
>>
>> 	sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys
>> --disable uag.map
>> 	sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys
>> --enable Map=uag.map
>>
>> The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell scripts
>> performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of commands or
>> statements when all the MAP fragments are processed. Somewhere there the
>> error happened. Or later, when the first created output files are prepared
>> for actual use and modified for other convertors. It's very likely that the
>> same error will *not* happen again. When you now, after updmap-sys has
>> finished, invoke again the first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp.
>> 'grep uagd8a', you should see very similar results and no faulty line. If
>> you'll still see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that
>> can't be solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and
>> private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an archive of
>> all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours)
>
> That is very generous (if foolhardy) but thankfully unnecessary.
>
> XeTeX apparently dislikes some map files which pdfTeX is quite happy
> about. These include gentium.map (which should not have been enabled
> through updmap anyway) and, in my local tree, 8r-urw-urwgothic.map,
> ec-urw-urwgothic.map, texansi-urw-urwgothic.map and sil-charis.map.
> Serves me right for experimenting... (At least I didn't *create* any of
> these, even if I did install most of them...)
>
> Anyway, thanks _very_ much for your help and Herb's. None of this
> solves the problem with Venturis but then I never really expected it to.
>
> Incidentally, uag.map is not included in the default updmap.cfg in my
> install of TL. Is that correct?
>
> Thanks again,
> cfr
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:45:40 +0100 (BST)
> From: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" <cfrees at imapmail.org>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I just uploaded an updated version of cfr-lm to CTAN. The package
> provides enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. This version is
> designed for use with version 2.004 of the fonts (currently included in
> TL 2009).
>
> At the moment, the only documentation for the package, which I consider
> experimental, is contained in the README. I noted in my upload that I
> would be happy to provide documentation *if* there is any interest in it
> and so it was suggested that I ask on a general TeX discussion list for
> users.
>
> Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing
> so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would
>
> Note that cfr-lm is not currently included in TL because of its
> experimental status so using it does require installing it first.
>
> The text of the upload announcement, which includes a description of
> the package is included below.
>
> Thanks,
> cfr
>
> ......................................................................
>
> The following information was provided by our fellow contributor:
>
> Name of contribution: cfr-lm
> Version number: updated version for Latin Modern 2.004
> Author's name: Clea F. Rees
> Author's email: cfrees <at> imapmail <dot> org
> Location on CTAN: /macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm
> Summary description: Enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts.
>
> Announcement text:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> The package supports a number of features of the Latin
> Modern fonts which are not easily accessible via the default
> (La)TeX support provided in the official distribution. In
> particular, the package supports the use of the various
> styles of digits available, small-caps and upright italic
> shapes, and alternative weights and widths. It also supports
> variable width typewriter and the ‚Äúquotation‚Äù font.
>
> By default, the package uses proportional oldstyle digits
> and variable width typewriter but this can be changed by
> passing appropriate options to the package. The package also
> supports using e.g. different styles of digits within a
> document so it is possible to use proportional oldstyle
> digits by default, say, but tabular lining digits within a
> particular table. See the README for details.
>
> The package requires the official Latin Modern distribution,
> lmodern, including its (La)TeX support. The package relies
> on the availability of both the fonts themselves and the
> official font support files.  The package also makes use of
> the nfssext-cfr  package.
>
> Only the T1 and TS1 encodings are supported for text fonts.
> The set up of fonts for mathematics is identical to that
> provided by Latin Modern.
>
> This version has been updated for version 2.004 of the Latin
> Modern fonts. cfr-lm.sty has been significantly revised to
> offer more flexible and robust options. The production of
> the virtual fonts has been tweaked to improve accent
> placement by adjusting for some peculiarities in the lmodern
> distribution.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This package is located at
>     http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm
>     http://tug.ctan.org/pkg/cfr-lm
> (if the package is new it may take a day for that information to
> appear).  We are supported by the TeX Users Group http://www.tug.org .
> Please join a users group; see http://www.tug.org/usergroups.html .
>
> Notes to maintainers:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Package is still considered experimental but has apparently been tested by at least one person besides me. So that doubles the number who've used it.
>
> As noted in the README, I am more than willing to write proper documentation for this *if* there is any evidence at all that anybody would be interested in it. Right now I'm afraid proper documentation would only suggest a degree of robustness unjustified by the package itself.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:05:15 +1200
> From: Alan T Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation?
> To: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" <cfrees at imapmail.org>,	TeX on Mac OS X Mailing
> 	List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Message-ID: <01AEC44E-F080-4BF2-9C9A-7D8651CA5724 at alphabyte.co.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Will give it a shot. Documentation is always helpful, especially in
> pdf form, when using texdoc :)
>
> Thanks
> Alan
>
> On 28/05/2010, at 11:45 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote:
>
>> Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing
>> so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would
>>
>
> --
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:43:24 -0400
> From: Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Message-ID: <783A1E9F-DC39-49C3-B046-B4215C97AE70 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> On May 27, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote:
>
>> On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>>
>>> A guaranteed A would not work
>>
>>
>> Why are you so pessimistic?
>
> An aversion to unnecessary risk taking
> --schremmer
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno <ramonf at hawaii.edu>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu
> Message-ID: <1275014671143-5111409.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
> Aloha Alain,
>
> Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world, its nice to
> have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find another
> excuse to party).
>
> I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not yourself. That
> is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help them as
> much as possible without having to deal with a different operating system
> than the one we are accustomed to.
>
> Ram√≥n
> --
> View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Help-for-Windows-users-of-MacTex-files-tp5095449p5111409.html
> Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 01:13:03 -0400
> From: Alain Schremmer <schremmer.alain at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files?
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>
> On May 27, 2010, at 10:44 PM, RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno wrote:
>
>>
>> Aloha Alain,
>>
>> Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world,
>> its nice to
>> have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find
>> another
>> excuse to party).
>
> By all means, let's find another excuse.
>
>> I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not
>> yourself. That
>> is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help
>> them as
>> much as possible without having to deal with a different operating
>> system
>> than the one we are accustomed to.
>
> Well, what I want is indeed for others but, Mac or no-Mac, I sure do
> not want to go beyond telling them:
>
> a) Do this and that to get a LaTeX installation for your OS. (And
> then you can forget about it.)
> b) Use the Assessing Document(*) Maker to get a pdf of the assessing
> document you want (It will do whatever it has to do to produce the
> pdf entirely behind your back(**))
>
> In other words, I do not intend to bend over backwards.
>
> (*) I have yet to find a less terrible name for something that can be
> a homework, a quiz or an exam.
> (**) I would even like to try for the FrontEnd to open the control
> file without displaying it and the previous pdf if any!
>
> Regards
> --schremmer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 17:34:41 +0200
> From: Josep Maria Font <jmfont at ub.edu>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop
> To: MacOSX TeX list <MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Message-ID: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67 at ub.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> A colleague seems likely to switch from OzTeX to TeXShop, but I would need some help in (a) convincing her to make the final decision, and (b) guiding her through the switching process. I have never used OzTeX myself, but it seems it does not use the same file structure and so on, and in particular does not store personal files and fonts in the same way as TeXShop or TeXLive do. Thus, I will be grateful to the list if someone can give me advice in these three points:
>
> (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems, etc.]
>
> (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal files, fonts, configurations, etc.).
>
> (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used to.
>
>
>
> JMaF
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:10:52 +0200
> From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Message-ID: <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B at Web.DE>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
> 	delsp=yes
>
>
> Am 28.05.2010 um 17:34 schrieb Josep Maria Font:
>
>> (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my
>> reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems,
>> etc.]
>
> It uses an up-to-date TeX distribution, has pdfTeX, micro-typography,
> and XeTeX, i.e., direct PDF creation. It's supported. For free, both
> acquisition and support. And it's not Classic. Which, I think, is not
> supported on modern intel hardware. No need to find, fetch, and
> install particular packages, in TeX Live even some batteries (very
> good fonts, ADF Venturis) are included. Update management!! Hundreds
> of knowledgeable members on mailing lists without ads for a
> particularly male public.
>
>>
>> (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one
>> has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal
>> files, fonts, configurations, etc.).
>
> Keeping it for a while on disk in order to being able to copy this or
> that file.
>
>>
>> (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used
>> to.
>
>
> No droplets. Suffering from instead of dancing the time-warp.
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>   Pete
>
> Let's face it; we don't want a free market economy either.
> 		ñ James Farley, president, Coca-Cola Export Corp., 1959
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: RamÛn Figueroa-Centeno <ramonf at hawaii.edu>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop
> To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu
> Message-ID: <1275070483614-5114126.post at n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> I uploaded version 1.3. It has a number of new features, including:
>
> 1. ChkTeX binary embedded.
> 2. Tooltips for the warnings.
> 3. Handling of long lines.
> 4. Much better layout.
>
> As usual you can find it in my web page
> <http://www2.hawaii.edu/~ramonf/TeXShop/index.html#ChkTeXforTeXShop>.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Ram√≥n
>
> P.S.: for a while this is the last version, unless there are important bugs
> to be fixed
> (and that I can fix).
> --
> View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107260p5114126.html
> Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
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