From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 1 03:33:34 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:33:34 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] file permissions In-Reply-To: References: <699D02C8-1029-479B-B46E-743AF125C19F@jpberlin.de> <8DF5B84C-0DF2-4B45-97AB-7AD7B1B69EC6@Web.DE> <81AFCFE8-6CD3-46D3-BEC3-0D567DBF4A01@me.com> <88348413-773C-4715-8830-5683EA56FCEC@jpberlin.de> Message-ID: On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Daniel Becker wrote: > > On 01.05.2010, at 00:52, David Watson wrote: > >> Anyway, I found this: >> http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/MacOSX/ >> Conceptual/BPFileSystem/Articles/BSDInfluences.html > > thanks, this looks very much like what I should read. Here is another one. I don't know it but a while ago, I got a couple of their books which did the job. Regards --schremme From gratzer at me.com Sat May 1 03:02:04 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:02:04 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext Message-ID: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> I am using \intertext and find that the space before and after is far too much. How can I shrink them? GG From msharpe at ucsd.edu Sat May 1 04:11:25 2010 From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:11:25 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> Message-ID: On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:02 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > I am using \intertext and find that the space before and after is far too much. > > How can I shrink them? > There is a \shortintertext command in the mathtools package. Michael From gratzer at me.com Sat May 1 07:28:30 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 00:28:30 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> Message-ID: <16E9700C-F8A2-42CC-AC3B-7C6E32DE16B7@me.com> There indeed is. Just what the doctor ordered. Thanks. Follow up question: I want to reduce the white space before a displayed formula (e.g., the line before it is short, so too much white space). I want to smash. How to do it? GG On 2010-04-30, at 9:11 PM, Michael Sharpe wrote: > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:02 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> I am using \intertext and find that the space before and after is far too much. >> >> How can I shrink them? >> > > There is a \shortintertext command in the mathtools package. > > Michael > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From gratzer at me.com Sat May 1 07:32:19 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 00:32:19 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> Message-ID: <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> But this completely clobbers the white space. Anything in between? GG On 2010-04-30, at 9:11 PM, Michael Sharpe wrote: > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:02 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> I am using \intertext and find that the space before and after is far too much. >> >> How can I shrink them? >> > > There is a \shortintertext command in the mathtools package. > > Michael > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Sat May 1 09:49:55 2010 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:49:55 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> Message-ID: <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> Hi George, On 01/05/2010, at 3:32 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > But this completely clobbers the white space. Anything in between? LaTeX sets these dimensions, defined by TeX itself: \abovedisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt \belowdisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt \abovedisplayshortskip=0pt plus 3pt \belowdisplayshortskip=7pt plus 3pt minus 4pt You can adjust them locally. > > GG Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From gratzer at me.com Sat May 1 16:05:04 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 09:05:04 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: On 2010-05-01, at 2:49 AM, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi George, > > On 01/05/2010, at 3:32 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> But this completely clobbers the white space. Anything in between? > > LaTeX sets these dimensions, defined by TeX itself: > > \abovedisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt > \belowdisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt which is used when? GG > \abovedisplayshortskip=0pt plus 3pt > \belowdisplayshortskip=7pt plus 3pt minus 4pt > > You can adjust them locally. > >> >> GG > > > Hope this helps, > > Ross > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au > Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 > Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 > Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 1 17:03:42 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:03:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: Am 01.05.2010 um 16:05 schrieb George Gratzer: > which is used when? You could try to find out by setting this or that skip to 1"... -- Greetings Pete Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. From msharpe at ucsd.edu Sat May 1 17:48:15 2010 From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe) Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 08:48:15 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <7C0725B8-D3B3-417C-AF8B-06A952A388AC@ucsd.edu> On May 1, 2010, at 7:05 AM, George Gratzer wrote: > > On 2010-05-01, at 2:49 AM, Ross Moore wrote: > >> Hi George, >> >> On 01/05/2010, at 3:32 PM, George Gratzer wrote: >> >>> But this completely clobbers the white space. Anything in between? >> >> LaTeX sets these dimensions, defined by TeX itself: >> >> \abovedisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt >> \belowdisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt > > which is used when? > > GG > >> \abovedisplayshortskip=0pt plus 3pt >> \belowdisplayshortskip=7pt plus 3pt minus 4pt >> >> You can adjust them locally. >> The \shortintertext macro pays attention only to \abovedisplayshortskip, whose normal setting is 0pt plus 3pt. To set that locally, you write something like {\abovedisplayshortskip=3pt plus 3pt \begin{align} a&=b \shortintertext{Some text} c&=d \end{align} } Michael From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Sun May 2 00:06:10 2010 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 08:06:10 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <2E6E87BA-1AF7-4063-B299-15DE3E374BB9@maths.mq.edu.au> Hi George, On 02/05/2010, at 12:05 AM, George Gratzer wrote: >> LaTeX sets these dimensions, defined by TeX itself: >> >> \abovedisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt >> \belowdisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt > > which is used when? This is all in The TeXbook. The above are usually used before and after the displayed math environments, to give vertical separation from surrounding paragraphs ... > > GG ... except when the line above/below is 'short' (e.g. just a few words) in which case the 'shortskip' versions below are used instead. >> \abovedisplayshortskip=0pt plus 3pt >> \belowdisplayshortskip=7pt plus 3pt minus 4pt Note that \abovedisplayshortskip is roughly a \baselineskip amount shorter than \abovedisplayskip . Thus the overall effect should be a fairly consistent separation between the equations and surrounding text, at least in the middle and right-hand side of the page. But the plus/minus values allow for a significant amount of flexibility when establishing page-breaks. Then it is TeX's internal algorithms that accommodate this flexibility and keep the spacing consistent across different displays. >> >> You can adjust them locally. >> >>> >>> GG >> >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Ross Cheers, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From gratzer at me.com Sun May 2 01:46:13 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 18:46:13 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] \intertext In-Reply-To: <2E6E87BA-1AF7-4063-B299-15DE3E374BB9@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <95EE8CCF-F3CF-4F5F-8B18-881F1E5CD22A@me.com> <68D61CEB-BA77-4E48-A342-091A1D3BF849@me.com> <60940F97-014C-4480-BC3C-9FF07E354E19@maths.mq.edu.au> <2E6E87BA-1AF7-4063-B299-15DE3E374BB9@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: Beautifully explained, thanks. GG On 2010-05-01, at 5:06 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi George, > > On 02/05/2010, at 12:05 AM, George Gratzer wrote: > >>> LaTeX sets these dimensions, defined by TeX itself: >>> >>> \abovedisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt >>> \belowdisplayskip=12pt plus 3pt minus 9pt >> >> which is used when? > > This is all in The TeXbook. > The above are usually used before and after the > displayed math environments, to give vertical > separation from surrounding paragraphs ... > >> >> GG > > ... except when the line above/below is 'short' > (e.g. just a few words) in which case the 'shortskip' > versions below are used instead. > >>> \abovedisplayshortskip=0pt plus 3pt >>> \belowdisplayshortskip=7pt plus 3pt minus 4pt > > Note that \abovedisplayshortskip is roughly > a \baselineskip amount shorter than \abovedisplayskip . > Thus the overall effect should be a fairly consistent > separation between the equations and surrounding text, > at least in the middle and right-hand side of the page. > > But the plus/minus values allow for a significant amount > of flexibility when establishing page-breaks. Then it is > TeX's internal algorithms that accommodate this flexibility > and keep the spacing consistent across different displays. > >>> >>> You can adjust them locally. >>> >>>> >>>> GG >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >>> Ross > > > Cheers, > > Ross > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au > Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 > Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 > Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From gratzer at me.com Fri May 7 02:09:25 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 19:09:25 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages Message-ID: I have not received a single posting in five days. What went wrong? GG From glgray at me.com Fri May 7 02:24:51 2010 From: glgray at me.com (Gary L. Gray) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 20:24:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47FBCE92-2BB4-476C-A4DE-AA10A7934068@me.com> Nothing as far as I know. I guess no one had anything to say or ask. -- Gary Sent from my iPad On May 6, 2010, at 20:09, George Gratzer wrote: > I have not received a single posting in five days. > What went wrong? > > GG > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 7 02:17:05 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 12:17:05 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E35CDCE-997C-4F0B-B59C-EB7096AB7E19@alphabyte.co.nz> On 7/05/2010, at 12:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > I have not received a single posting in five days. > What went wrong? > We're all happy George ;) Alan From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 7 02:43:20 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:43:20 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> On May 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > I have not received a single posting in five days. > What went wrong? > > GG Howdy, Apparently everything is just perfect and no-one is having problems! :-) Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From gratzer at me.com Fri May 7 03:00:28 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 20:00:28 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <84E0464A-23B7-44A3-A41D-78400CA6326E@me.com> While on texhax they are killing each other, we have arrived at the perfect world. Good for us. GG On 2010-05-06, at 7:43 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> I have not received a single posting in five days. >> What went wrong? >> >> GG > > Howdy, > > Apparently everything is just perfect and no-one is having problems! :-) > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 7 03:12:15 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:12:15 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <84E0464A-23B7-44A3-A41D-78400CA6326E@me.com> References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> <84E0464A-23B7-44A3-A41D-78400CA6326E@me.com> Message-ID: On May 6, 2010, at 8:00 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > While on texhax they are killing each other, we have > arrived at the perfect world. > > Good for us. > > GG Howdy, And texhax is not the only list with nasty stuff going on. I've almost given up hope with the comp.text.tex news group at times. Luckily my news reader has very nice filters so the vast majority of junk never appears on my message list. :-) I've been insulted on many lists but the big trick is to just not respond and create a filter/rule so you don't get bothered by that person any more. After initial self pity I slowly come back. There have been several very valuable folks, even on this list, that have been lost when there has been bad behavior. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From fergdc at uleth.ca Fri May 7 02:59:01 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 18:59:01 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions Message-ID: Greetings All, I'm new to both Mac OS X and to the MacTeX installation. So please bear with these initial questions. I've installed the stuff that downloads with MacTeX 2009 and it seems to be working well. I'm using TeXShop to create source (.tex) files. The template I use is based on the ?LaTex template? one that is listed under the ?Templates? button. I have modified this template here and there, based on stuff from George Gr?tzer's book; for example, adding \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem} in the preamble, and other things. Documentclass specification: =========================== I've changed the \documentclass line to \documentclass[12pt,fleqn,leqno,draft]{amsbook} and although there is no complaint about ?amsbook? I'm just guessing that there is such a document class. Seems to be the case because in the .log file there was a warning about ?draft? and ?\includegraphics? having some sort of conflict. Eventually the draft will be deleted, and, at this time, I'm not using the \includegraphics thing at this point. The Address lines: ================= I wanted the author's address set up as three lines, so the source reads: \address{first line\\ second line\\ email address} But when typeset, everthing is in uppercase including ?email address? and the address is presented on a single line. Why are the newlines ignored? Is it possible to specify a mix of uppercase and lowercase? Does \verbatim come in use here? The Date line: ============= Under the address, the date was specified, but it never appears on the title page. Does not matter whether I use \date{\today} or \date{6 April 2010} in either case, no date appears??? The guillemets guys =================== I like to use these ? and ? guys, but when the relevant codes \guillemotleft and \guillemotright were employed, the .log file complained about T1 encoding. Following Tobias Oetiker, I put \usepackage{T1]{fontenc} in the preamble. The ? and ? guys now appear. Is that the proper solution? Wide Bar Over ============= If A and B represent points, then in geometry one often uses something akin to _A B_ except that the underline should be an overline (overbar). Although \bar{...} works well in the case of a single character, i.e., \bar{A}; it is inadequate in someting like \bar{AB} or \bar{A\,B} Since \widehat{AB} and \widetilde{AB} work well, I wonder if I've missed something!?!?!? Vector Drawings =============== I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, coloured drawings to augment my work. Trial.aux interference ====================== I had a source file Trial.tex in which various simple constructs were being tried out. When I opened Trial.tex earlier today, it would not typeset. The complaint from the .log file referred to Trial.aux and complained that \begin{document} was missing. Well, in Trial.tex the line ?\begin{document}? was evident! Finally I noticed the reference to Trial.aux! I also observed that when Trial.aux was opened, the controlling process was ConTeXt not LaTeX!!! So I deleted Trial.aux and then Trial.tex could be typeset. I've noticed the complaint "the line \begin{document} is missing" before. Is this a symptom of some dumb beginner error? What's the error? Inserting Ascii text into TeXShop ================================= For practice, I wanted to typeset a 16 page doc that I had created with the DTP program PageStream. The file that PageStream created was ?Mechanics.pgs?. So the following was done: (1) Open a template in TeXShop which typesets okay. Save it as ?Mechanics.tex? in a directory ?Mechanics?. (2) Create an Ascii version of the PageStream file ?Mechanics.pgs? and name the Ascii version ?Mechanics.txt?. Move ?Mechamics.txt? from the Amiga over to the iMac and place it in the same directory ?Mechanics?. (3) Open ?Mechanics.tex? on the iMac. Put the text cursor on a blank line above the ?\end{document}? line. Now what? First I dragged the icon for ?Mechanics.txt? into the TeXShop window. That did not work as a line \input{?complicated & strange path to Mechanics.txt?} appeared but no Ascii text. Well eventually I clumsily copied the Ascii text into the TeXShop window, but surely there is a neat way to do this!!! I tried using \input{?full path to the file Mechanics.txt?} but that was no better. Should I have started off with a PDF or PostScript version of ?Mechanics.pgs?? Any enlightenment will be appreciated. Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From d.cross at tcu.edu Fri May 7 02:59:06 2010 From: d.cross at tcu.edu (David Cross) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:59:06 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <5E35CDCE-997C-4F0B-B59C-EB7096AB7E19@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <5E35CDCE-997C-4F0B-B59C-EB7096AB7E19@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: Happiness is a stable attractor for TeX on OSX! David Cross d.cross at tcu.edu www.davidcross.us On May 6, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 7/05/2010, at 12:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> I have not received a single posting in five days. >> What went wrong? >> > > We're all happy George ;) > > Alan > > From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Fri May 7 03:26:38 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:26:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> <84E0464A-23B7-44A3-A41D-78400CA6326E@me.com> Message-ID: On May 6, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 6, 2010, at 8:00 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> While on texhax they are killing each other, we have >> arrived at the perfect world. >> >> Good for us. >> >> GG > > Howdy, > > And texhax is not the only list with nasty stuff going on. I've > almost given up hope with the comp.text.tex news group at times. > Luckily my news reader has very nice filters so the vast majority > of junk never appears on my message list. :-) > > I've been insulted on many lists but the big trick is to just not > respond and create a filter/rule so you don't get bothered by that > person any more. After initial self pity I slowly come back. There > have been several very valuable folks, even on this list, that have > been lost when there has been bad behavior. Once upon a time I would have said it was the Mac influence. These days ... And yes, I too miss these folks. But, it seems to me, the tone has tended to be more friendly these past couple of years. Regards --schremmer From loki at uchicago.edu Fri May 7 02:51:40 2010 From: loki at uchicago.edu (David Derbes) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:51:40 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> On May 6, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> I have not received a single posting in five days. >> What went wrong? >> >> GG > > Howdy, > > Apparently everything is just perfect and no-one is having problems! :-) > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) My father, a Creole of New Orleans, often told this joke. A young boy was born to a proud but impoverished Cajun family in Bayou Lafourche. He seemed healthy and happy, but never spoke a word. Finally, at Thanksgiving dinner when he was seven years old, he put down a piece of bread, looked at his family around the table, and announced solemnly: "This bread is burnt." His mother fainted. The family was astonished. A Thanksgiving miracle! "Son," asked his father, "you can speak?!" "Sure, Dad." "Why you don't say nothin' till now?!" The boy looked at his father with a mixture of pity and regret, "Well, Dad, up till now, everything been hokay!" So, maybe everything is hokay! David Derbes U of Chicago Laboratory Schools > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From dewatson at me.com Fri May 7 03:56:48 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 20:56:48 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <119E052E-7A07-451D-A0B8-B219AD4A84EB@me.com> On May 6, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Vector Drawings > =============== > I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, coloured drawings to augment my work. I would recommend having a look at http://www.inkscape.org/ for a nice "Illustrator" like package. You can export .eps or .pdf and you can read the .pdf file directly or the .eps file indirectly into a pdflatex'd document with the assistance of the package epstopdf. From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Fri May 7 04:50:00 2010 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 12:50:00 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <292BA9D0-C72F-4A60-89CE-25693969F493@maths.mq.edu.au> Hello Don, On 07/05/2010, at 10:59 AM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Documentclass specification: > =========================== > I've changed the \documentclass line to > > \documentclass[12pt,fleqn,leqno,draft]{amsbook} > > and although there is no complaint about ?amsbook? I'm just > guessing that there is such a document class. Seems to be the case > because in the .log file there was a warning about ?draft? and > ?\includegraphics? having some sort of conflict. Eventually the > draft will be deleted, and, at this time, I'm not using the > \includegraphics > thing at this point. In that case you can dispense with the 'draft' option. With computers as fast as they are these days, you never really need it anymore anyway. It was only ever a way to avoid doing some of the most time-consuming operations until the final run, to pull all the bits together. Nowadays it only saves a few seconds on huge jobs having 100s of pages. > > > The Address lines: > ================= > I wanted the author's address set up as three lines, so the source > reads: > > \address{first line\\ > second line\\ > email address} > > But when typeset, everthing is in uppercase including ?email > address? and the address is presented on a single line. Why are the > newlines ignored? \\ is not equivalent to "newline". It is just a macro name that can be linked to anything you want. In the "amsart" style, when addresses are placed at the end of the document, the AMS don't want to have the address over many lines. (This could result in extra pages in their publications.) So they make it do nothing, or perhaps a single space. To bypass this, you could try: >>> \address{first line\newline\indent >>> second line\newline\indent >>> email address} > Is it possible to specify a mix of uppercase and lowercase? Does > \verbatim come in use here? This is a possible hack that seems to work: >>> \address{{\normalsize\rm first line\strut\newline\indent >>> second line\strut\newline\indent >>> email address}} The purpose of the \strut is to force wider line-separation, since the AMS uses \footnotesize (or similar) at this point. Try it without the '\strut's to see the difference. > > > The Date line: > ============= > Under the address, the date was specified, but it never appears on > the title page. Does not matter whether I use > > \date{\today} > > or > > \date{6 April 2010} > > in either case, no date appears??? Again, this is because the AMS do not put in the date with their printed publications. Each journal has a date of issue, which applies to all the articles; so there is no point in putting it on each one individually. > > > The guillemets guys > =================== > I like to use these ? and ? guys, but when the relevant codes > > \guillemotleft and \guillemotright > > were employed, the .log file complained about T1 encoding. > Following Tobias Oetiker, I put > > \usepackage{T1]{fontenc} > > in the preamble. The ? and ? guys now appear. Is that the proper > solution? Seems fine to me. > > > Wide Bar Over > ============= > If A and B represent points, then in geometry one often uses > something akin to > > _A B_ > > except that the underline should be an overline (overbar). \overline{AB} > Although \bar{...} works well in the case of a single character, > i.e., \bar{A}; it is inadequate in someting like > > \bar{AB} or \bar{A\,B} > > Since \widehat{AB} and \widetilde{AB} work well, I wonder if I've > missed something!?!?!? Have you examined any tables of available commands? > > > Vector Drawings > =============== > I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat > overpowered by his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". > I don't know Mac software yet. Is there not some vector drawing > program that could be used on the iMac and the resulting drawings > saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? If there is, I'd appreciate a > hint. Need to be able to create simple, coloured drawings to > augment my work. There are lots of possibilities. What you choose will depend upon the extent to which you want to use just point-&-click interfaces, or whether you want to programable thingies. Do your diagrams need labels? Can you use the same fonts as in the body text? How to position superscripts and subscripts, and get the spacing correct between math symbols and variable names? etc. etc. You will try one program, and get used to what it can do, then realise that it doesn't do enough of what you really want. Then you'll try another and appreiate its strengths and weaknesses. Eventually you may end up using Xy-pic or Tikz . After that you'll probably not switch again. Both have rather large learning curves, but can produce wonderful outputs, in a fully programmable way. > > > Trial.aux interference > ====================== > I had a source file Trial.tex in which various simple constructs > were being tried out. When I opened Trial.tex earlier today, it > would not typeset. The complaint from the .log file referred to > Trial.aux and complained that > > \begin{document} > > was missing. Well, in Trial.tex the line ?\begin{document}? was > evident! Finally I noticed the reference to Trial.aux! I also > observed that when Trial.aux was opened, the controlling process > was ConTeXt not LaTeX!!! So I deleted Trial.aux and then Trial.tex > could be typeset. I've noticed the complaint > > "the line \begin{document} is missing" > > before. Is this a symptom of some dumb beginner error? What's the > error? This occurs either: 1. if you process with LaTeX a document not written for LaTeX; or 2. your coding tries to put something on the page before \begin{document} has been encountered. In LaTeX *all* actually content must come *after* \begin{document} . The part before this is called the "preamble". It is used to *declare* information, such as what extra packages to load, your own personal commands, and Metadata -- such as author, title, address, etc. > > > Inserting Ascii text into TeXShop > ================================= > For practice, I wanted to typeset a 16 page doc that I had created > with the DTP program PageStream. The file that PageStream created > was ?Mechanics.pgs?. So the following was done: > > (1) Open a template in TeXShop which typesets okay. Save it as > ?Mechanics.tex? in a directory ?Mechanics?. > > (2) Create an Ascii version of the PageStream file ?Mechanics.pgs? > and name the Ascii version ?Mechanics.txt?. Move ?Mechamics.txt? > from the Amiga over to the iMac and place it in the same directory > ?Mechanics?. > > (3) Open ?Mechanics.tex? on the iMac. Put the text cursor on a > blank line above the ?\end{document}? line. > > Now what? First I dragged the icon for ?Mechanics.txt? into the > TeXShop window. That did not work as a line > > \input{?complicated & strange path to Mechanics.txt?} You shouldn't need the braces. > > appeared but no Ascii text. > > Well eventually I clumsily copied the Ascii text into the TeXShop > window, but surely there is a neat way to do this!!! What's clumsy about Select All, then Copy and Paste? > I tried using > > \input{?full path to the file Mechanics.txt?} If the path is accurate then it should have found the file for \input . But you don't need a full path. Just a relative one will do. Indeed just the basename, if it is in the same directory: so \input Mechanics.txt ought to be sufficient. Try without the braces if it doesn't work with them. > > but that was no better. > > Should I have started off with a PDF or PostScript version of > ?Mechanics.pgs?? That depends upon just what is in that file, and what you want to see. It it is the ASCII programming source, then you'll need a kind of verbatim environment. There are several packages that do this. e.g. listings and verbatim and fancyverb . verbatim.sty defines a command \verbatiminput . Check its documentation (e.g., with texdoc verbatim in a Terminal window) to see how to use it. > > > Any enlightenment will be appreciated. Hope this helps, Ross > > > Cheers Don (Green Dragon) > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Fri May 7 05:05:58 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:05:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <743EF05D-4AF6-404D-B41A-1D0D759657F5@gmail.com> On May 6, 2010, at 8:51 PM, David Derbes wrote: > > On May 6, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> >> On May 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, George Gratzer wrote: >> >>> I have not received a single posting in five days. >>> What went wrong? >>> >>> GG >> >> Howdy, >> >> Apparently everything is just perfect and no-one is having >> problems! :-) >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz >> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > My father, a Creole of New Orleans, often told this joke. A young > boy was born to a proud but impoverished Cajun family in Bayou > Lafourche. He seemed healthy and happy, but never spoke a word. > Finally, at Thanksgiving dinner when he was seven years old, he put > down a piece of bread, looked at his family around the table, and > announced solemnly: "This bread is burnt." His mother fainted. The > family was astonished. A Thanksgiving miracle! "Son," asked his > father, "you can speak?!" "Sure, Dad." "Why you don't say nothin' > till now?!" The boy looked at his father with a mixture of pity and > regret, "Well, Dad, up till now, everything been hokay!" In the version I heard in Britain, the son was twenty-eight years old when he spoke, at tea, for the first time thus: "Would you pass me the sugar?" Regards --schremmer P.S. I never heard a French equivalent. From talmanl at gmail.com Fri May 7 06:38:26 2010 From: talmanl at gmail.com (Louis Talman) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:38:26 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] no messages In-Reply-To: <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: On May 6, 2010, at 6:51 PM, David Derbes wrote: > My father, a Creole of New Orleans, often told this joke. A young boy was born to a proud but impoverished Cajun family in Bayou Lafourche. He seemed healthy and happy, but never spoke a word. Finally, at Thanksgiving dinner when he was seven years old, he put down a piece of bread, looked at his family around the table, and announced solemnly: "This bread is burnt." His mother fainted. The family was astonished. A Thanksgiving miracle! "Son," asked his father, "you can speak?!" "Sure, Dad." "Why you don't say nothin' till now?!" The boy looked at his father with a mixture of pity and regret, "Well, Dad, up till now, everything been hokay!" This story has wide circulation and appears with some variations. I just read it today in an old (well, not very, but not current, either) article in the Notices of the AMS, told about none other than Albert Einstein! --Lou Talman Department of Mathematical & Computer Sciences Metropolitan State College of Denver From ramonf at hawaii.edu Fri May 7 07:42:33 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1273210953465-5017905.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Wow that's a lot of questions! Some of the trouble is that you are using amsbook (or any other format). In LaTeX the format chooses the appearance of the document. This appearance can be modified with some effort, see . So let me try to answer some of the other easier ones. There is a plethora of drawing apps in the Mac. The most complete free one is Inkscape, but it has a steep learning curve in my opinion (with a lot of setup effort it can be made to work beautifully with LaTeX). Now, if you are willing to spend money then LineForm in combination wit the free LaTeXit , give you a graphic editor and equation editor that are linked, so that you can effortlessly place equations in your drawings. Instead of \bar you want \overline (see , a great cheat sheet for beginners). Go to the Typeset menu to pick which method you would like to use to typeset. If you want to force the use of an "engine" (aka "program") use use a line at the beginning of the document that that specifies it, for example % !TEX TS-program = pdflatex will force all typesetting to go through pdflatex. To delete .aux, you can use "Trash Aux Files" from the File menu (or from the corresponding Console). As to "[s]hould I have started off with a PDF or PostScript version of ?Mechanics.pgs?? " YES! apdf or eps file will be great. Then use the graphicx package (the command is \usepackage{graphicx}) and then use \includegraphics to load your file (see ). BTW NEVER USE SPACES on the names TeX files or other files you create or load with LaTeX. If all of this intimidates you, don't worry it is worth the initial pain :) You could also try LyX, which hides a lot of the inner workings from you. All of George Gratzer's Books are great. I would also, recommend Kopka and Daly's A Guide to LaTeX (I have a copy at home and one at work, and although with the Internet I do not find myself reading the book every day, as I used to, it still can get me out of some sticky problems). Finally, look at the help menu for TeXShop it is full of useful stuff! It includes the full manual, an intro to LaTeX, videos, etc. Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Some-beginner-questions-tp5017410p5017905.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ramonf at hawaii.edu Fri May 7 07:50:06 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 22:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: no messages In-Reply-To: References: <23F1B06E-A40B-4BE2-AC97-4B1A67FDC09C@wideopenwest.com> <8AAB67EE-FACF-40F8-87B3-EAD8C5EC3B48@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <1273211406529-5017925.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Not only we are polite, genteel, cultivated, civil and courteous, but I suspect that right now the semester is ending for a lot of us :) Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/no-messages-tp5017183p5017925.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From d.becker at jpberlin.de Fri May 7 08:43:39 2010 From: d.becker at jpberlin.de (Daniel Becker) Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:43:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EAE6DC9-E50F-4B63-97E7-CD3A41C20F78@jpberlin.de> Am 07.05.2010 um 02:59 schrieb Ferguson, Don: > \usepackage{T1]{fontenc} > > in the preamble. The ? and ? guys now appear. Is that the proper solution? you could consider the package csquotes, example below. If you like it, it makes sense to change TeXShop's Autocompletion a bit. http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/csquotes.html \documentclass{scrartcl} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} %hyphenation with european languages, HQ-fonts \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} %encoding \usepackage[english,french,ngerman]{babel} \usepackage[babel,german=guillemets,french=guillemets,english=american]{csquotes} \begin{document} Genau, dies ist \enquote{nur} ein Beispiel. \selectlanguage{french} Genau, dies ist \enquote{nur} ein Beispiel. \selectlanguage{english} Genau, dies ist \enquote{nur} ein Beispiel. \end{document} Daniel From eliot001 at umn.edu Sun May 9 03:49:21 2010 From: eliot001 at umn.edu (C.H.E.) Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1273369761006-5025141.post@n2.nabble.com> Ferguson, Don wrote: > Vector Drawings > =============== > I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by > his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac > software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used > on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? > If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, > coloured drawings to augment my work. VectorDesigner works beautifully for this, as it exports both PDF and EPS of whole documents, or just selections from them. But it costs a little bit of money, maybe around 70 USD. -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Some-beginner-questions-tp5017410p5025141.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From chrisptex at googlemail.com Sun May 9 13:23:20 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 13:23:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Textmate and latex 2 bundle: error message Message-ID: <4DC91E31-6F01-45AB-AC4E-59BD301529E4@googlemail.com> Hi, I tried to compile (OS 10.6.3, TL 2009 updated) a simple document with Textmate and the latex2 bundle and get the following: ---------- Typesetting latexws.tex? graphics.sty:68: \clearpage Program exited with code #1 after 0.94 seconds. ----------- I am not loading the graphics package (only the graphicx). What does this mean? And how could I resolve it? Thanks in advance! -- Christian -It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy.- John Sculley and John A. Byrne, 1987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 9 14:04:49 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 07:04:49 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Textmate and latex 2 bundle: error message In-Reply-To: <4DC91E31-6F01-45AB-AC4E-59BD301529E4@googlemail.com> References: <4DC91E31-6F01-45AB-AC4E-59BD301529E4@googlemail.com> Message-ID: On May 9, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Christian Pleul wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to compile (OS 10.6.3, TL 2009 updated) a simple document with Textmate and the latex2 bundle and get the following: > > ---------- > Typesetting latexws.tex? > > graphics.sty:68: \clearpage > > Program exited with code #1 after 0.94 seconds. > ----------- > > I am not loading the graphics package (only the graphicx). > > What does this mean? And how could I resolve it? > > > Thanks in advance! > -- > Christian > > > -It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy.- > > John Sculley and John A. Byrne, 1987 Howdy, I don't know what your problem is but the graphicx package loads the graphics package. It would be helpful to see a minimal but compilable tex file that demonstrates the problem and your log file when attempting to compile it. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From tim.lahey at gmail.com Sun May 9 21:06:38 2010 From: tim.lahey at gmail.com (Tim Lahey) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:06:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions Message-ID: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 18:49:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: "C.H.E." > Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions > To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu > Message-ID: <1273369761006-5025141.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Ferguson, Don wrote: >> Vector Drawings >> =============== >> I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by >> his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac >> software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used >> on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? >> If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, >> coloured drawings to augment my work. > > VectorDesigner works beautifully for this, as it exports both PDF and EPS of > whole documents, or just selections from them. But it costs a little bit of > money, maybe around 70 USD. I highly recommend VectorDesigner. OmniGraffle is a good choice as well. I recommend avoiding Lineform. While I think it used to be a great program, it isn't really being maintained and I've had a lot of problems with it on the newer OS versions. I recently tried to just open an old Lineform document and export it to PDF and it crashed every time on the PDF export. Many people like Intaglio, but I haven't used it. There's a really nice comparison of the major Mac drawing apps (aside from Illustrator) at http://jonwhipple.com/blog/2008/05/25/drawing-conclusions/ Cheers, Tim. --- Tim Lahey PhD Candidate, Systems Design Engineering University of Waterloo http://www.linkedin.com/in/timlahey From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 10 02:41:02 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 20:41:02 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B73EE8F-0E3A-4FEF-8E64-A6AD302C190C@gmail.com> On May 9, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Tim Lahey wrote: > Many people like Intaglio, but I haven't used it. I think it really depends on what one is looking for. I have been (almost) entirely satisfied with Intaglio. One thing I find particularly useful is that after ThisFile.intaglio has been saved in a "source folder", all I need is to hit Command-Option-S and Intaglio saves a cropped-pdf copy as ThisFile.pdf in a separate "pdf folder" which it remembers. Makes managing figures very easy. But then other apps probably do that too. Regards --schremmer From cl.hsu330 at gmail.com Mon May 10 02:08:53 2010 From: cl.hsu330 at gmail.com (Chien-leng Hsu) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:08:53 +0900 Subject: [OS X TeX] Chinese characters not shown in the final document Message-ID: <02FC76EA-B0DE-4B68-8AF8-47A57979167D@gmail.com> Hi, I am very new to MacTeX and TeXShop (version 2.33) and having problems to get Chinese characters shown in my final document. I've been searching all day long but without any answers. Do I need to install any packages? Can someone help me? Thank you. Best regards, Chien-leng Hsu From d.cross at tcu.edu Mon May 10 04:34:44 2010 From: d.cross at tcu.edu (David Cross) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 21:34:44 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Chinese characters not shown in the final document In-Reply-To: <02FC76EA-B0DE-4B68-8AF8-47A57979167D@gmail.com> References: <02FC76EA-B0DE-4B68-8AF8-47A57979167D@gmail.com> Message-ID: google "CJK LaTeX" cheers David Cross d.cross at tcu.edu www.davidcross.us On May 9, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Chien-leng Hsu wrote: > Hi, > > I am very new to MacTeX and TeXShop (version 2.33) and having problems > to get Chinese characters shown in my final document. > I've been searching all day long but without any answers. > Do I need to install any packages? Can someone help me? > Thank you. > > Best regards, > Chien-leng Hsu > From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 10 06:18:24 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 22:18:24 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: <119E052E-7A07-451D-A0B8-B219AD4A84EB@me.com> Message-ID: Greetings "David Watson" On 07/05/2010 at 01:56 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions Hi DAvid, DW>> Vector Drawings DW>> =============== DW>> I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, coloured drawings to augment my work. DW> I would recommend having a look at http://www.inkscape.org/ for a nice "Illustrator" like package. DW> You can export .eps or .pdf and you can read the .pdf file directly or the .eps file indirectly into a pdflatex'd document with the assistance of the package epstopdf. Okay, I think that is the second or third reference to Inkscape. When I get back to the Mac I will look it up. Thank you. Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 10 06:16:56 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 22:16:56 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: <292BA9D0-C72F-4A60-89CE-25693969F493@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: Greetings "Ross Moore" On 07/05/2010 at 02:50 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] Some beginner questions Hello Ross, RM>> Documentclass specification: RM>> =========================== RM>> I've changed the \documentclass line to RM>> RM>> \documentclass[12pt,fleqn,leqno,draft]{amsbook} RM>> RM>> and although there is no complaint about ?amsbook? I'm just RM>> guessing that there is such a document class. Seems to be the case RM>> because in the .log file there was a warning about ?draft? and RM>> ?\includegraphics? having some sort of conflict. Eventually the RM>> draft will be deleted, and, at this time, I'm not using the RM>> \includegraphics RM>> thing at this point. RM> In that case you can dispense with the 'draft' option. RM> With computers as fast as they are these days, you never really RM> need it anymore anyway. I did not put it in for "speed up" but because in the event that '\hbox' (I think) is overfull or underfull, then when "draft" applies, TeX puts thick bars at the right margin to point out where the problem occurs. I think I'll stay with draft until I'm more competant with TeXShop. RM> It was only ever a way to avoid doing some of the most time-consuming RM> operations until the final run, to pull all the bits together. RM> Nowadays it only saves a few seconds on huge jobs having 100s RM> of pages. Good to know. Thanks. RM>> The Address lines: RM>> ================= RM>> I wanted the author's address set up as three lines, so the source RM>> reads: RM>> RM>> \address{first line\\ RM>> second line\\ RM>> email address} RM>> RM>> But when typeset, everthing is in uppercase including ?email RM>> address? and the address is presented on a single line. Why are the RM>> newlines ignored? RM> \\ is not equivalent to "newline". RM> It is just a macro name that can be linked to anything you want. It's not!! Well ..... okay. :-) RM> In the "amsart" style, when addresses are placed at the end of RM> the document, the AMS don't want to have the address over many lines. RM> (This could result in extra pages in their publications.) RM> So they make it do nothing, or perhaps a single space. RM> To bypass this, you could try: RM>>>> \address{first line\newline\indent RM>>>> second line\newline\indent RM>>>> email address} It worked! Well, now the address is left-alligned instead of centered, but I'll work on that later. RM>> Is it possible to specify a mix of uppercase and lowercase? Does RM>> \verbatim come in use here? RM> This is a possible hack that seems to work: RM>>>> \address{{\normalsize\rm first line\strut\newline\indent RM>>>> second line\strut\newline\indent RM>>>> email address}} With or without the \strut it worked! However, the address lines are not centered, but maybe there were not intended to be. RM> The purpose of the \strut is to force wider line-separation, RM> since the AMS uses \footnotesize (or similar) at this point. RM> Try it without the '\strut's to see the difference. Yes, I could see a very slight change when '\strut' was removed. Prefer the spacing when '\strut' is present. Threw in a \begin{center} ... \end{center} but did not like the result. Anyway, your suggestion is now part of my (amsbook} template. Thanks for that! Looks much better to me. How did you ever come across the solution??? RM>> The Date line: RM>> ============= RM>> Under the address, the date was specified, but it never appears on RM>> the title page. Does not matter whether I use RM>> RM>> \date{\today} RM>> RM>> or RM>> RM>> \date{6 April 2010} RM>> RM>> in either case, no date appears??? RM> Again, this is because the AMS do not put in the date RM> with their printed publications. RM> Each journal has a date of issue, which applies to RM> all the articles; so there is no point in putting it RM> on each one individually. Very good! Made that change too. :-) But, since I am using {amsbook} is that date convention reasonable? In the case of {amsart} I agree. RM>> The guillemets guys RM>> =================== RM>> I like to use these ? and ? guys, but when the relevant codes RM>> RM>> \guillemotleft and \guillemotright RM>> RM>> were employed, the .log file complained about T1 encoding. RM>> Following Tobias Oetiker, I put RM>> RM>> \usepackage{T1]{fontenc} RM>> RM>> in the preamble. The ? and ? guys now appear. Is that the proper RM>> solution? RM> Seems fine to me. Yep, seems to be working fine. RM>> Wide Bar Over RM>> ============= RM>> If A and B represent points, then in geometry one often uses RM>> something akin to RM>> RM>> _A B_ RM>> RM>> except that the underline should be an overline (overbar). RM> \overline{AB} OH NO!!!! Not that easy! Yes, it works. RM>> I wonder if I've missed something!?!?!? RM> Have you examined any tables of available commands? You can be sure that I have, and spent a lot of time searching, but have yet to find your suggestion in tables! Found it now! Thank you. RM>> Vector Drawings RM>> =============== RM>> I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat RM>> overpowered by his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". RM>> I don't know Mac software yet. Is there not some vector drawing RM>> program that could be used on the iMac and the resulting drawings RM>> saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? If there is, I'd appreciate a RM>> hint. Need to be able to create simple, coloured drawings to RM>> augment my work. <> RM> Eventually you may end up using Xy-pic or Tikz . RM> After that you'll probably not switch again. RM> Both have rather large learning curves, but can produce RM> wonderful outputs, in a fully programmable way. Okay, I'll start looking for Xy-pic and Tikz. I assume they were part of the MacTeX download. RM>> Trial.aux interference RM>> ====================== RM>> I had a source file Trial.tex in which various simple constructs RM>> were being tried out. When I opened Trial.tex earlier today, it RM>> would not typeset. The complaint from the .log file referred to RM>> Trial.aux and complained that RM>> RM>> \begin{document} RM>> RM>> was missing. Well, in Trial.tex the line ?\begin{document}? was RM>> evident! Finally I noticed the reference to Trial.aux! I also RM>> observed that when Trial.aux was opened, the controlling process RM>> was ConTeXt not LaTeX!!! So I deleted Trial.aux and then Trial.tex RM>> could be typeset. I've noticed the complaint RM>> RM>> "the line \begin{document} is missing" RM>> RM>> before. Is this a symptom of some dumb beginner error? What's the RM>> error? RM> This occurs either: RM> 1. if you process with LaTeX a document not written for LaTeX; AaaH HaH! That was it! I had dumped an Ascii file into TeXShop with LaTeX in command. RM> 2. your coding tries to put something on the page RM> before \begin{document} has been encountered. No! I did not make that move. :-) RM> In LaTeX *all* actually content must come *after* RM> \begin{document} . RM> The part before this is called the "preamble". RM> It is used to *declare* information, such as what RM> extra packages to load, your own personal commands, RM> and Metadata -- such as author, title, address, etc. Yes, I've picked that up, but thanks for the reminder. RM>> Inserting Ascii text into TeXShop RM>> ================================= <> RM>> Now what? First I dragged the icon for ?Mechanics.txt? into the RM>> TeXShop window. That did not work as a line RM>> RM>> \input{?complicated & strange path to Mechanics.txt?} RM> You shouldn't need the braces. RM>> appeared but no Ascii text. RM>> RM>> Well eventually I clumsily copied the Ascii text into the TeXShop RM>> window, but surely there is a neat way to do this!!! RM> What's clumsy about Select All, then Copy and Paste? Not bad at all, now that I understand why the \input guy will not work! :-) See comment below. RM>> I tried using RM>> RM>> \input{?full path to the file Mechanics.txt?} I'm not sure about the braces, but there was a collage of stuff that preceeded the filename and did not make any sense to me, at the time. RM> If the path is accurate then it should have found the file for \input . RM> But you don't need a full path. Just a relative one will do. RM> Indeed just the basename, if it is in the same directory: RM> so \input Mechanics.txt RM> ought to be sufficient. Okay, and that is what I was NOT doing; i.e., I did NOT try the simple \input Mechanics.txt I remember reading somewhere of not using absolute paths, but rather using relative ones. This must be one of those cases. RM> Try without the braces if it doesn't work with them. Now I understand what went wrong! I just experimented a moment ago using the form you suggested. It did not work because: The Ascii file in question had been prepared without any thought of being used in TeXShop. Consequently, it was full of errors when regarded as a .tex file. So TeXShop refused to place the text into the .tex file and complained via the .log file about the first error it encountered. Okay, that is fair enough! So, unless one wants to go via the \verbatim route, then my bumbling was not so bad after all. As you objected, load the Ascii guy into TextEdit, highlight all the text, and then dump it into the TeXShop window via the clipboard. Well .... it seems simple now. RM>> but that was no better. RM>> RM>> Should I have started off with a PDF or PostScript version of RM>> ?Mechanics.pgs?? Answering own question: No, that's not needed! But after reading another reply .... I'm not so sure! RM> That depends upon just what is in that file, and what you want to see. RM> It it is the ASCII programming source, then you'll need a kind RM> of verbatim environment. There are several packages that do this. RM> e.g. listings and verbatim and fancyverb . Okay, I understand that now. <> RM>> Any enlightenment will be appreciated. RM> Hope this helps, Helps? HELPS? That was great! Cannot thank you enough. Much appreciated. Every day TeX becomes easier to use, and wow what a program. Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 10 06:46:34 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 22:46:34 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: <1273210953465-5017905.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Greetings "Ram??n Figueroa-Centeno" On 07/05/2010 at 05:42 you wrote concerning [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions Hi, RF> Wow that's a lot of questions! Maybe! But look at all the splendid answers I received! :-) RF> Some of the trouble is that you are using amsbook (or any other format). In RF> LaTeX the format chooses the appearance of the document. This appearance can RF> be modified with some effort, see RF> . RF> So let me try to answer some of the other easier ones. RF> There is a plethora of drawing apps in the Mac. The most complete free one RF> is Inkscape, but it has a steep learning curve in my opinion (with a lot of RF> setup effort it can be made to work beautifully with LaTeX). RF> Now, if you are willing to spend money then LineForm RF> in combination wit the free RF> LaTeXit , give you a RF> graphic editor and equation editor that are linked, so that you can RF> effortlessly place equations in your drawings. WOW! That will keep me entertained for a while. Thank you. RF> Instead of \bar you want \overline (see RF> , a great cheat RF> sheet for beginners). I have so many table of symbols hanging around, I probably have not examined "the right one." So I downloaded and printed your reference. Great compact summary, and \overline and \underline in clear view! Many thanks. RF> Go to the Typeset menu to pick which method you would like to use to RF> typeset. If you want to force the use of an "engine" (aka "program") use RF> use a line at the beginning of the document that that specifies it, for RF> example RF> % !TEX TS-program = pdflatex RF> will force all typesetting to go through pdflatex. I'll be thinking about that! :-) RF> To delete .aux, you can use "Trash Aux Files" from the File menu (or from RF> the corresponding Console). OK, found it. RF> As to "[s]hould I have started off with a PDF or PostScript version of RF> ??Mechanics.pgs??? " YES! apdf or eps file will be great. Then use the RF> graphicx package (the command is \usepackage{graphicx}) and then use RF> \includegraphics to load your file (see RF> ). I'll try that avenue, but not tonight! RF> BTW NEVER USE SPACES on the names TeX files or other files you create or RF> load with LaTeX. Fortunately, that comes naturally. I hate space in filenames or path, but it very commonplace now. But not in TeX! Good! :-) RF> If all of this intimidates you, don't worry it is worth the initial pain :) RF> You could also try LyX, which hides a lot of the inner workings from you. Not so much intimidated, but certainly overwhelmed. RF> All of George Gratzer's Books are great. I would also, recommend Kopka and RF> Daly's A Guide to LaTeX (I have a copy at home and one at work, and although RF> with the Internet I do not find myself reading the book every day, as I used RF> to, it still can get me out of some sticky problems). RF> Finally, look at the help menu for TeXShop it is full of useful stuff! It RF> includes the full manual, an intro to LaTeX, videos, etc. I appreciate the information and advice. Thank you very much. Bye, Bye, I've got work to do. ;-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 10 19:33:28 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:33:28 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? Message-ID: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that deleted text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, eventually, all corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS Wordl and miss in LaTeX. Regards --schremmer From vivrii at gmail.com Mon May 10 19:51:12 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:51:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that deleted > text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, eventually, all > corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being > lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS Wordl and > miss in LaTeX. > > Regards > --schremmer Look at latexdiff (which is a package and perl script) HTH Victor ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 10 20:35:45 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:35:45 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 10, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Alain Schremmer > wrote: >> Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that deleted >> text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, eventually, all >> corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being >> lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS Wordl and >> miss in LaTeX. >> >> Regards >> --schremmer > > > > Look at latexdiff (which is a package and perl script) > > HTH Victor > Howdy, There is a Drop Script, Droplatexdiff.zip, that you can get from . Drop two versions of the document onto the Drop Script and it should produce a new .tex file. Compile that file and I think you can get what you want. Try it, you might like it. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 10 22:27:49 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 16:27:49 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CEEE769-6AFC-4017-BC37-545A2EFFA8F6@gmail.com> On May 10, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 10, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Alain Schremmer >> wrote: >>> Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that >>> deleted >>> text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, >>> eventually, all >>> corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being >>> lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS >>> Wordl and >>> miss in LaTeX. >>> >>> Regards >>> --schremmer >> >> >> >> Look at latexdiff (which is a package and perl script) >> >> HTH Victor >> > > Howdy, > > There is a Drop Script, Droplatexdiff.zip, that you can get from > . Drop two versions of the document > onto the Drop Script and it should produce a new .tex file. Compile > that file and I think you can get what you want. > > Try it, you might like it. I will but I am not trying to compare "two versions of the document". Let us pretend that your French is not too good and that you ask me to show you where some document you wrote in French might not quite be what a native speaker would write. As I dimly recall, in MS Word, I would mark your incorrect French phrase one way and would insert my native French phrase marked in some other way so that you could see both in the same document, almost as if I had done it by hand. Then, you could decide whether or not to accept my correction with a mere stroke on a key. Regards --schremmer From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 10 22:48:07 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:48:07 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: <9CEEE769-6AFC-4017-BC37-545A2EFFA8F6@gmail.com> References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> <9CEEE769-6AFC-4017-BC37-545A2EFFA8F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 10, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 10, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> >> On May 10, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Alain Schremmer >>> wrote: >>>> Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that deleted >>>> text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, eventually, all >>>> corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being >>>> lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS Wordl and >>>> miss in LaTeX. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> --schremmer >>> >>> >>> >>> Look at latexdiff (which is a package and perl script) >>> >>> HTH Victor >>> >> >> Howdy, >> >> There is a Drop Script, Droplatexdiff.zip, that you can get from . Drop two versions of the document onto the Drop Script and it should produce a new .tex file. Compile that file and I think you can get what you want. >> >> Try it, you might like it. > > I will but I am not trying to compare "two versions of the document". > > Let us pretend that your French is not too good and that you ask me to show you where some document you wrote in French might not quite be what a native speaker would write. As I dimly recall, in MS Word, I would mark your incorrect French phrase one way and would insert my native French phrase marked in some other way so that you could see both in the same document, almost as if I had done it by hand. Then, you could decide whether or not to accept my correction with a mere stroke on a key. > > Regards > --schremmer Howdy, Well, try to copy the file, make real corrections in the copy and then drop both of them on the Drop Script and you'll get a third file that, when compiled, gives you what you want. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 10 23:00:29 2010 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:00:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <76DDE991-045E-4A3B-94B3-9BF95B623D65@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Googling I found this gem from a distinguished member of our list. Claus > Is there a LaTeX or TeX command for "strikethrough" (analogous to MS > WORD's "strikethrough") that puts a line through text? Thank you. Not internally, but there is a package, ``soul'' which does this: ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/soul.zip \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{soul} \begin{document} The package soul provides \st{strikethrough}. \end{document} William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications On May 10, 2010, at 19:33, Alain Schremmer wrote: > Is there a package that could help edit a page in the sense that deleted text would be struck, inserted text underlined, etc and, eventually, all corrections would be made at a stroke of a key. At the risk of being lynched, I would say that this is the one feature I liked in MS Wordl and miss in LaTeX. > > Regards > --schremmer > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 10 22:45:00 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:45:00 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: <1273369761006-5025141.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Greetings "C.H.E." On 09/05/2010 at 01:49 you wrote concerning [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions Hi Eliot, C> Ferguson, Don wrote: C>> Vector Drawings C>> =============== C>> I've been reading Oetiker's manual on LaTeX2e and somewhat overpowered by C>> his discussion of "Producing Mathematical Graphics". I don't know Mac C>> software yet. Is there not some vector drawing program that could be used C>> on the iMac and the resulting drawings saved as EPS or PostScript or ....? C>> If there is, I'd appreciate a hint. Need to be able to create simple, C>> coloured drawings to augment my work. C> VectorDesigner works beautifully for this, as it exports both PDF and EPS of C> whole documents, or just selections from them. But it costs a little bit of C> money, maybe around 70 USD. Thanks for that. I've added VectorDesigner to my ever growing list of solutions. :-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 10 23:06:37 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:06:37 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings "Tim Lahey" On 09/05/2010 at 19:06 you wrote concerning [OS X TeX] Re: Some beginner questions Hi Tim, <> TL>> VectorDesigner works beautifully for this, as it exports both PDF and EPS of TL>> whole documents, or just selections from them. But it costs a little bit of TL>> money, maybe around 70 USD. TL> I highly recommend VectorDesigner. OmniGraffle is a good choice as well. I TL> recommend avoiding Lineform. While I think it used to be a great TL> program, it isn't TL> really being maintained and I've had a lot of problems with it on the TL> newer OS versions. TL> I recently tried to just open an old Lineform document and export it TL> to PDF and it TL> crashed every time on the PDF export. TL> Many people like Intaglio, but I haven't used it. TL> There's a really nice comparison of the major Mac drawing apps (aside TL> from Illustrator) TL> at TL> http://jonwhipple.com/blog/2008/05/25/drawing-conclusions/ Thank you for the url and the evaluations. The Url should add nicely to my confusion as to which of many solutions I should follow. ;-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From jmccyoung at gmail.com Tue May 11 00:24:47 2010 From: jmccyoung at gmail.com (John McChesney-Young) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:24:47 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: <76DDE991-045E-4A3B-94B3-9BF95B623D65@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> <76DDE991-045E-4A3B-94B3-9BF95B623D65@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Claus Gerhardt wrote: > Googling I found this gem from a distinguished member [viz., William Adams] of our list. > >> Not internally, but there is a package, ``soul'' which does [strikethrough]: > > ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/soul.zip There's also the ulem package: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/ulem.html which isn't as clearly customizable but includes some interesting variations on underscores and strikethroughs. John -- John McChesney-Young ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. JMcCYoung~at~gmail.com ** http://twitter.com/jmccyoung ** http://jmccyoung.blogspot.com/ From d.becker at jpberlin.de Tue May 11 01:16:51 2010 From: d.becker at jpberlin.de (Daniel Becker) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 01:16:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Edit package? In-Reply-To: References: <03918A04-3047-4399-9475-4F6A1882FDF5@gmail.com> <9CEEE769-6AFC-4017-BC37-545A2EFFA8F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2D8427E4-0419-44CC-93E1-46665C2EB92B@jpberlin.de> Am 10.05.2010 um 22:48 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > Well, try to copy the file, make real corrections in the copy and then drop both of them on the Drop Script and you'll get a third file that, when compiled, gives you what you want. I guess many people do exactly that when working with MS Word (copy - edit the file - compare it with the old version). I use an TeXShop engine for that, works for me. You have to copy and rename before doing the editing. #!/bin/tcsh # creates a version of a .tex file that has differences marked up # assumes that a version filename-oldversion.tex exists set path= ($path /usr/texbin /usr/local/bin) set filename = "$1" set newname = "${filename:r}.tex" set oldname = "${filename:r}-oldversion.tex" set diffname = "${filename:r}-differences.tex" #run latexdiff on a file foo.tex and create foo-differences.tex latexdiff --type=CULINECHBAR "$oldname" "$newname" > "$diffname" #open the diff-file open "$diffname" Daniel From ramonf at hawaii.edu Thu May 13 06:47:18 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 21:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] What are the TeXShop Metapost, Metafont and ConText Engine commands? Message-ID: <1273726038780-5044718.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I am writing a shell script that uses TeXShop engines to typeset files. It parses the first 20 lines of a file and uses the first line containing "% !TEX TS-program = " to determine which engine to use. Now, TeXShop has "hardwired" a few engines (that is they are not in the $HOME/Library/TeXShop/Engines folder): 1. tex 2. latex 3. pdflatex 4. pdftex 5. personaltex 6. personallatex 7. metapost 8. metafont 9. context I can figure out what the engines are for 1 through 6, from the TeXShop preferences (and can read them from my script from TeXShop.plist). However, 7 through 9 are mysterious to me. So my question is: do any of you know what are the commands that TeXShop uses to typeset Metapost, Metafont and ConTeXt? (I do not use any of the three, but I want what I am writing to be useful to as many people as possible.) Mahalo in advance, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/What-are-the-TeXShop-Metapost-Metafont-and-ConText-Engine-commands-tp5044718p5044718.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 13 14:42:31 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:42:31 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. Message-ID: Howdy, Just to keep everyone informed. Development for TeX Live 2010 (what will be distributed with MacTeX-2010) has officially started. That means that there will no longer be any updates via TeX Live Utility (or tlmgr directly) to TeX Live (MacTeX) 2009. If you use TLU or tlmgr to do updates you may get one last update (if you haven't updated for a while) but from then one you will always get a report that there are No Updates Available. The principle reason this sort of thing happens is that it is a relatively small group of folks (for such a large project) that put this all together for us and they can't afford to expend their resources in updating the present version of TeX Live while also putting together then next version. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From jushen at gmail.com Thu May 13 22:43:45 2010 From: jushen at gmail.com (Jung-Tsung Shen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:43:45 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? Message-ID: I was pdflatexing a document named "One_Way.tex" just now. In the document, I have a figure named "one_way.jpg". The compilation failed numerous times (log attached below) and I thought the figure file was corrupted so also I re-made tons of times a new figure file but still in vain. Finally, I changed the name of the figure file to something else and it worked immediately. Is there a rule that the figure file can't be of the same name as the document? JT ***************************** [1{/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]Error: PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Error: Couldn't read xref table !pdfTeX error: /usr/texbin/pdflatex (file ./one_way.pdf): xpdf: reading PDF ima ge failed ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 13 23:24:01 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:24:01 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9374D2AD-EE43-462A-9145-041132A51082@wideopenwest.com> On May 13, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: > I was pdflatexing a document named "One_Way.tex" just now. In the > document, I have a figure named "one_way.jpg". The compilation failed > numerous times (log attached below) and I thought the figure file was > corrupted so also I re-made tons of times a new figure file but still > in vain. > > Finally, I changed the name of the figure file to something else and > it worked immediately. Is there a rule that the figure file can't be > of the same name as the document? > > JT > > ***************************** > > [1{/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]Error: > PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... > Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary > Error: Couldn't read xref table > > !pdfTeX error: /usr/texbin/pdflatex (file ./one_way.pdf): xpdf: reading PDF ima > ge failed > ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! Howdy, Could you supply a minimal but compilable file and graphic that demonstrates this problem? Also, are you including the jpg extension when you use the \includgraphics command? That might be what is causing the problem since pdflatex is most likely finding the previous One_Way.pdf file and trying to include that. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From jushen at gmail.com Thu May 13 23:46:17 2010 From: jushen at gmail.com (Jung-Tsung Shen) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:46:17 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <9374D2AD-EE43-462A-9145-041132A51082@wideopenwest.com> References: <9374D2AD-EE43-462A-9145-041132A51082@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > Howdy, > > Could you supply a minimal but compilable file and graphic that demonstrates this problem? Also, are you including the jpg extension when you use the \includgraphics command? That might be what is causing the problem since pdflatex is most likely finding the previous One_Way.pdf file and trying to include that. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz Herb, Thanks for the reply. Here's a working (i.e., non-working) minimal: ************** %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex \documentclass{article} \usepackage{graphicx} \begin{document} \begin{figure}[h] \centering \includegraphics[width=3in]{one_way} \caption{Lala} \label{fig:one_way} \end{figure} \end{document} *************** The existence of a (any) figure file named one_way.jpg will work (i.e., not work). xelatex also encountered the same problem. Thanks. JT From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 00:09:47 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 17:09:47 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: <9374D2AD-EE43-462A-9145-041132A51082@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <414EFD88-32F2-47B5-8F09-CC984E46A172@wideopenwest.com> On May 13, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> Howdy, >> >> Could you supply a minimal but compilable file and graphic that demonstrates this problem? Also, are you including the jpg extension when you use the \includgraphics command? That might be what is causing the problem since pdflatex is most likely finding the previous One_Way.pdf file and trying to include that. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz > > Herb, > > Thanks for the reply. Here's a working (i.e., non-working) minimal: > > ************** > %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{graphicx} > \begin{document} > \begin{figure}[h] > \centering > \includegraphics[width=3in]{one_way} > \caption{Lala} > \label{fig:one_way} > \end{figure} > \end{document} > *************** > > The existence of a (any) figure file named one_way.jpg will work > (i.e., not work). xelatex also encountered the same problem. > > Thanks. > > JT Howdy, It's exactly what I thought it was... you are NOT including the jpg extension in the \includgraphics command so it is finding an older One_Way.pdf before finding the one_way.jpg (case doesn't seem to make a difference here) and trying to use it. By simply adding the jpg extension pdflatex (and xelatex) will be happy. %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex %%!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode \documentclass{article} \usepackage{graphicx} \begin{document} \begin{figure}[h] \centering \includegraphics[width=3in]{one_way.jpg} % notice the .jpg extension! \caption{Lala} \label{fig:one_way} \end{figure} \end{document} Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Fri May 14 00:16:44 2010 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:16:44 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Jung-Tsung Shen, On 14/05/2010, at 6:43 AM, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote: > I was pdflatexing a document named "One_Way.tex" just now. In the > document, I have a figure named "one_way.jpg". The compilation failed > numerous times (log attached below) and I thought the figure file was > corrupted so also I re-made tons of times a new figure file but still > in vain. > > Finally, I changed the name of the figure file to something else and > it worked immediately. Is there a rule that the figure file can't be > of the same name as the document? Your job is called One_Way.tex so will result in One_Way.pdf . When you \includegraphics{one_way} then LaTeX looks for an appropriate graphic file to include. The usual order of precedence is: one_way.pdf > one_way.png > one_way.jpg Which one is found is now up to the file-system matching provided by your operating system. If one_way.pdf also matches One_Way.pdf then you are certainly going to have a problem. I'm pretty sure that this will happen under Windows; also it can happen on a Mac --- but I think there is a setting to prevent it --- but not under Linux and other Unix flavours. > > JT Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From amunn at gmx.com Fri May 14 03:46:21 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:46:21 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 13, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > > > Which one is found is now up to the file-system matching > provided by your operating system. > If one_way.pdf also matches One_Way.pdf > then you are certainly going to have a problem. > > I'm pretty sure that this will happen under Windows; > also it can happen on a Mac --- but I think there is a setting > to prevent it --- but not under Linux and other Unix flavours. > For the Mac, this is done at the file system level: you can format a disk to allow case sensitive file names, but there is no setting per se that you can switch on and off once your disk is formatted in the standard Apple way. Unlike Windows, though, the Mac OS preserves the distinction between upper and lower case in file names, so if you transfer files to a system that does care about case, the names will appear as you actually wrote them. Apple's version is sort of weird: it preserves the file names, but ignores the difference. Within the terminal, for example, file name completion appears to be case-sensitive: 'app' will not expand to Applications. But at the same time you can't create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From fergdc at uleth.ca Fri May 14 07:26:24 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 23:26:24 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings "Herbert Schulz" On 13/05/2010 at 12:42 you wrote concerning [OS X TeX] TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. Hello Herb, HS> Just to keep everyone informed. Development for TeX Live 2010 (what will be distributed with MacTeX-2010) has officially started. That means that there will no longer be any updates via TeX Live Utility (or tlmgr directly) to TeX Live (MacTeX) 2009. If you use TLU or tlmgr to do updates you may get one last update (if you haven't updated for a while) but from then one you will always get a report that there are No Updates Available. However, it will be possible to update via the 'last' update!? Yes? I'm so new to TeX and TeXShop that I have not yet used TeX Live Utility or tlmgr directly. HS> The principle reason this sort of thing happens is that it is a relatively small group of folks (for such a large project) that put this all together for us and they can't afford to expend their resources in updating the present version of TeX Live while also putting together then next version. Understood, and thanks for the excellent work you and others are doing. Much appreciated. Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 13:55:45 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 06:55:45 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> On May 14, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Greetings "Herbert Schulz" > On 13/05/2010 at 12:42 you wrote concerning > [OS X TeX] TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. > > Hello Herb, > > HS> Just to keep everyone informed. Development for TeX Live 2010 (what will be distributed with MacTeX-2010) has officially started. That means that there will no longer be any updates via TeX Live Utility (or tlmgr directly) to TeX Live (MacTeX) 2009. If you use TLU or tlmgr to do updates you may get one last update (if you haven't updated for a while) but from then one you will always get a report that there are No Updates Available. > > However, it will be possible to update via the 'last' update!? Yes? > > I'm so new to TeX and TeXShop that I have not yet used TeX Live Utility or tlmgr directly. > Howdy, If you install MacTeX and then run TeX Live Utility (or tlmgr directly) to get an update it will update up to the frozen state. This might be two stages; one a critical update of tlmgr and the second an update of all the files that have changed since that MacTeX install was constructed. Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. > > HS> The principle reason this sort of thing happens is that it is a relatively small group of folks (for such a large project) that put this all together for us and they can't afford to expend their resources in updating the present version of TeX Live while also putting together then next version. > > Understood, and thanks for the excellent work you and others are doing. Much appreciated. > > > Cheers Don (Green Dragon) Well, I'm certainly not going to take credit for any of MacTeX itself. I help out in other ways (testing, MacTeXtras) but have nothing to do with TeX Live itself. All of the work of taking and compiling the binaries and packaging TeX Live, etc., into the MacTeX installer is done by Dick Koch and the group that puts together TeX Live works through TUG. And now for the advertisement... If you find the distribution useful, please consider joining TUG, , or the TeX User Group best for you, . Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From jushen at gmail.com Fri May 14 18:31:39 2010 From: jushen at gmail.com (Jung-Tsung Shen) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:31:39 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Herbert, Ross, and Alan, Thank you all for the very informative explanation. Guess it is a good practice to always include the extension of the file name. Thanks. JT From jmfont at ub.edu Fri May 14 17:40:18 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:40:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> El dia 14/05/2010, a les 03:46, Alan Munn va escriure: > For the Mac, this is done at the file system level: you can format a > disk to allow case sensitive file names, but there is no setting per > se that you can switch on and off once your disk is formatted in the > standard Apple way. Right, when you format a disk or volume you can choose whether journaled or not, and whether case-sensitive or not. You can check your situation by going to the Apple Menu > About this Mac > More info > looking at your disk(s). > Unlike Windows, though, the Mac OS preserves the distinction between > upper and lower case in file names, so if you transfer files to a > system that does care about case, the names will appear as you > actually wrote them. > > Apple's version is sort of weird: it preserves the file names, but > ignores the difference. Within the terminal, for example, file name > completion appears to be case-sensitive: 'app' will not expand to > Applications. But at the same time you can't create two files in > the same directory with the same names but different cases. I would need some clarification here. I have my disk formatted as "case-sensitive", and I *can* create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. I can do this either in the Finder or in the Terminal. They (seem to) appear as different files to the system. This seems to contradict your last assertion. Or is it that they only *look* as different but *are* actually the same file ? However, when I backup to a USB pendrive which is formatted as "case- insensitive", the two files are contemplated as the same file, e.g., if only one is present in the pendrive then the most recent of the two is backed up against the other, irrespectively of the case in the names. Not being aware of this has caused some headaches in the past. I have asked in the past about the (dis)advantages of case-sensitive versus case-insensitive, but never received a satisfactory answer. Is there anybody here with a clear one ? Thanks in advance ! JMaF From amunn at gmx.com Fri May 14 19:02:38 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:02:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> References: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> Message-ID: <38994D2D-BC49-4596-A7F0-5135EDB6EFB1@gmx.com> On May 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Josep Maria Font wrote: > El dia 14/05/2010, a les 03:46, Alan Munn va escriure: > >> For the Mac, this is done at the file system level: you can format >> a disk to allow case sensitive file names, but there is no setting >> per se that you can switch on and off once your disk is formatted >> in the standard Apple way. > > Right, when you format a disk or volume you can choose whether > journaled or not, and whether case-sensitive or not. You can check > your situation by going to the Apple Menu > About this Mac > More > info > looking at your disk(s). > >> Unlike Windows, though, the Mac OS preserves the distinction >> between upper and lower case in file names, so if you transfer >> files to a system that does care about case, the names will appear >> as you actually wrote them. >> >> Apple's version is sort of weird: it preserves the file names, but >> ignores the difference. Within the terminal, for example, file name >> completion appears to be case-sensitive: 'app' will not expand to >> Applications. But at the same time you can't create two files in >> the same directory with the same names but different cases. > > I would need some clarification here. I have my disk formatted as > "case-sensitive", and I *can* create two files in the same directory > with the same names but different cases. I can do this either in the > Finder or in the Terminal. They (seem to) appear as different files > to the system. This seems to contradict your last assertion. Or is > it that they only *look* as different but *are* actually the same > file ? No, I was referring to the way the Mac is standardly set up (i.e. with a case insensitive file system.) If you have formatted your disk to allow case sensitivity, then it will work as you describe, so you can have two different files with names that only differ in case. > > However, when I backup to a USB pendrive which is formatted as "case- > insensitive", the two files are contemplated as the same file, e.g., > if only one is present in the pendrive then the most recent of the > two is backed up against the other, irrespectively of the case in > the names. Not being aware of this has caused some headaches in the > past. Yes, this is correct. If the file system doesn't distinguish case, it can't know the difference. This is why I don't format my disks this way, since it can lead easily to the situation you describe. > > I have asked in the past about the (dis)advantages of case-sensitive > versus case-insensitive, but never received a satisfactory answer. > Is there anybody here with a clear one ? Thanks in advance ! Well for me, the above concern is definitely a disadvantage. Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 19:02:45 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:02:45 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> References: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> Message-ID: <69F34920-0801-4F19-8C50-2AC61EEBD72E@wideopenwest.com> On May 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Josep Maria Font wrote: > El dia 14/05/2010, a les 03:46, Alan Munn va escriure: > ... >> Unlike Windows, though, the Mac OS preserves the distinction between upper and lower case in file names, so if you transfer files to a system that does care about case, the names will appear as you actually wrote them. >> >> Apple's version is sort of weird: it preserves the file names, but ignores the difference. Within the terminal, for example, file name completion appears to be case-sensitive: 'app' will not expand to Applications. But at the same time you can't create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. > > I would need some clarification here. I have my disk formatted as "case-sensitive", and I *can* create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. I can do this either in the Finder or in the Terminal. They (seem to) appear as different files to the system. This seems to contradict your last assertion. Or is it that they only *look* as different but *are* actually the same file ? > > However, when I backup to a USB pendrive which is formatted as "case-insensitive", the two files are contemplated as the same file, e.g., if only one is present in the pendrive then the most recent of the two is backed up against the other, irrespectively of the case in the names. Not being aware of this has caused some headaches in the past. > > I have asked in the past about the (dis)advantages of case-sensitive versus case-insensitive, but never received a satisfactory answer. Is there anybody here with a clear one ? Thanks in advance ! > > > JMaF Howdy, Well, I think you just gave one of the disadvantages of setting the file system to case-sensitive. :-) This is especially true since case-insensitive seems to be the default. Although I would like to use the case-sensitive setting I'm forgetful and couldn't afford to have backups messed up. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Fri May 14 18:52:57 2010 From: Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Christopher T. Allen 95) Date: 14 May 2010 12:52:57 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] XCircuit - slightly OT Message-ID: <78798688@lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> I hope this isn't too OT. I apologize if it is. I've decided I'm making far too many circuit diagrams to continue using the brute force method via PSTricks. After looking around I decided XCircuit seems the best way to go. I should be able to export circuit diagrams that I can incorporate into my LaTeX documents fairly easily. Many hours later I've got gcc loaded properly and have fixed all the permission errors that were cropping up. The program's loaded. I run it. The window pops up and the graphics start appearing... then crash! It fails partway through loading. Segmentation fault "$(dirname $0)/../../System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources /Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish" "$@" I thought I did a pretty good job handling the permission errors and the like before. Now I'm totally lost. I'm only used to segmentation faults when I'm coding myself, not from other sources. Can anyone help me with this? I can get the whole error report, too. Thank you so much! Chris From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 14 19:27:49 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 19:27:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] XCircuit - slightly OT In-Reply-To: <78798688@lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> References: <78798688@lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: Am 14.05.2010 um 18:52 schrieb Christopher T. Allen 95: > Can anyone help me with this? Fink and MacPorts offer XCircuit 3.4, Fink has the XCircuit-testing (3.6.140) package. The problem can be in Snow Leopard's Wish.app, part of TclTk, it can be in XCircuit. You could try to invoke tlmgr with the --gui option. Then tlmgr with launch in X11 as a TclTk window. If it fails similarly then it's likely that SL's TclTk is faulty. -- Greetings Pete Encryption, n.: A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals. From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 19:47:48 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:47:48 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] XCircuit - slightly OT In-Reply-To: References: <78798688@lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: On May 14, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 14.05.2010 um 18:52 schrieb Christopher T. Allen 95: > >> Can anyone help me with this? > > > Fink and MacPorts offer XCircuit 3.4, Fink has the XCircuit-testing (3.6.140) package. > > > The problem can be in Snow Leopard's Wish.app, part of TclTk, it can be in XCircuit. You could try to invoke tlmgr with the --gui option. Then tlmgr with launch in X11 as a TclTk window. If it fails similarly then it's likely that SL's TclTk is faulty. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > Howdy, Here's what I get in Snow Leopard: $ tlmgr --gui Cannot load Tk, thus the GUI cannot be started! The Perl/Tk module is not shipped with the TeX Live installation. You have to install it to get tlmgr GUI running. See http://tug.org/texlive/distro.html for more details. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From dewatson at me.com Fri May 14 20:22:43 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:22:43 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> References: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> Message-ID: On May 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Josep Maria Font wrote: > El dia 14/05/2010, a les 03:46, Alan Munn va escriure: > >> For the Mac, this is done at the file system level: you can format a disk to allow case sensitive file names, but there is no setting per se that you can switch on and off once your disk is formatted in the standard Apple way. > > Right, when you format a disk or volume you can choose whether journaled or not, and whether case-sensitive or not. You can check your situation by going to the Apple Menu > About this Mac > More info > looking at your disk(s). > >> Unlike Windows, though, the Mac OS preserves the distinction between upper and lower case in file names, so if you transfer files to a system that does care about case, the names will appear as you actually wrote them. >> >> Apple's version is sort of weird: it preserves the file names, but ignores the difference. Within the terminal, for example, file name completion appears to be case-sensitive: 'app' will not expand to Applications. But at the same time you can't create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. > > I would need some clarification here. I have my disk formatted as "case-sensitive", and I *can* create two files in the same directory with the same names but different cases. I can do this either in the Finder or in the Terminal. They (seem to) appear as different files to the system. This seems to contradict your last assertion. Or is it that they only *look* as different but *are* actually the same file ? > This is how it was with my old laptop. Be aware however, that if you use Adobe products, you will be much better off using a case-insensitive filesystem. I know this for a fact with Adobe reader, which I grudgingly tried to use to fill out a grant application. It simply would not work due to Reader trying to load libraries and plugins with the "incorrect" name. In other words, they didn't expect that the application would be used on a case-sensitive filesystem, and so the name of the library and/or plugin doesn't match what they coded. Looking through the strings in their application code, I noticed that they didn't even (at the time) have "house rules" on coding, i.e. they would capitalize function and variable names haphazardly. It took quite a while before a support representative on the Adobe forums lambasted me with the suggestion that "Apple recommends that you do not use a case-sensitive file system" which is - of course - not true, or else why do they use case sensitivity in their server product? ARRRG I ended up using a Windows machine to fill out that grant proposal. I was seething the entire time. > However, when I backup to a USB pendrive which is formatted as "case-insensitive", the two files are contemplated as the same file, e.g., if only one is present in the pendrive then the most recent of the two is backed up against the other, irrespectively of the case in the names. Not being aware of this has caused some headaches in the past. > > I have asked in the past about the (dis)advantages of case-sensitive versus case-insensitive, but never received a satisfactory answer. Is there anybody here with a clear one ? Thanks in advance ! > > > JMaF > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From talmanl at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:29:01 2010 From: talmanl at gmail.com (Louis Talman) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:29:01 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <69F34920-0801-4F19-8C50-2AC61EEBD72E@wideopenwest.com> References: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> <69F34920-0801-4F19-8C50-2AC61EEBD72E@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <4FF7DF07-4D69-44D0-8CF7-06C064D59B69@gmail.com> On May 14, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > Well, I think you just gave one of the disadvantages of setting the file system to case-sensitive. :-) This is especially true since case-insensitive seems to be the default. > > Although I would like to use the case-sensitive setting I'm forgetful and couldn't afford to have backups messed up. Seems to me that the advantage lies, not with case-sensitivy or -insensitivity per se, but with consistency. --Lou Talman Department of Mathematical & Computer Sciences Metropolitan State College of Denver From vivrii at gmail.com Fri May 14 20:05:58 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:05:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] XCircuit - slightly OT In-Reply-To: References: <78798688@lorax.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > Cannot load Tk, thus the GUI cannot be started! > The Perl/Tk module is not shipped with the TeX Live installation. > You have to install it to get tlmgr GUI running. See > http://tug.org/texlive/distro.html for more details. > Perl/Tk installer was shipped with MacTeX2008 (I believe that it was not included in MT2009 because of TL Utility). texdoctk also requires it One can get it from CPAN http://search.cpan.org/~srezic/Tk-804.028/ Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From amunn at gmx.com Fri May 14 21:02:06 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:02:06 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdflatex figure with the same name as the document? In-Reply-To: <4FF7DF07-4D69-44D0-8CF7-06C064D59B69@gmail.com> References: <4F57FC27-DA4A-4682-BD4B-8598EE43335E@ub.edu> <69F34920-0801-4F19-8C50-2AC61EEBD72E@wideopenwest.com> <4FF7DF07-4D69-44D0-8CF7-06C064D59B69@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17DCEF3A-78E6-4EF8-B050-EA58D1387C64@gmx.com> On May 14, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Louis Talman wrote: > > On May 14, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> Well, I think you just gave one of the disadvantages of setting the >> file system to case-sensitive. :-) This is especially true since >> case-insensitive seems to be the default. >> >> Although I would like to use the case-sensitive setting I'm >> forgetful and couldn't afford to have backups messed up. > > Seems to me that the advantage lies, not with case-sensitivy or - > insensitivity per se, but with consistency. Not really. A case insensitive system will protect you against transfer errors (e.g. to a random flash drive of a student/colleague), but a case sensitive one won't. A case sensitive system only really is safe if you're using it in the ideal world where you control all the disks you might ever put things on. Because in practice, if you get used to case sensitivity, you'll tend to use it (since it's functional), but then it will come and bite you later in these other kinds of circumstances. Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 14 22:26:52 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:26:52 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On 14/05/2010, at 11:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a > while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of > tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and > fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that > MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by > installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. > Realising there are other priorities, if this could be achieved it would be appreciated. I have in the past missed out on vital package updates because I have relied on the updater to find and install them but the updater itself had no awareness of the updated packages (admittedly that was using MiKTeX and some time ago). Cheers Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From amunn at gmx.com Fri May 14 22:32:36 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:32:36 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> On May 14, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 14/05/2010, at 11:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a >> while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of >> tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and >> fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that >> MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by >> installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. >> > > Realising there are other priorities, if this could be achieved it > would be appreciated. I have in the past missed out on vital package > updates because I have relied on the updater to find and install > them but the updater itself had no awareness of the updated packages > (admittedly that was using MiKTeX and some time ago). Herb, will TL 2010 be installable just by using the TeXLive Utility once it's ready, though? Or will we have to download the whole MacTeX package again? -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 22:46:22 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:22 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <994E3A89-3AC3-4458-8CDB-B389FC8FD0F6@wideopenwest.com> On May 14, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 14/05/2010, at 11:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. >> > > > Realising there are other priorities, if this could be achieved it would be appreciated. I have in the past missed out on vital package updates because I have relied on the updater to find and install them but the updater itself had no awareness of the updated packages (admittedly that was using MiKTeX and some time ago). > > Cheers > Alan Howdy, Tlmgr (and therefore TeX Live Utility) can update any package that is, or becomes, part of TeX Live. There are items on CTAN that are not part of TeX Live due to licensing problems or have been superseded by other packages (e.g., the glossary package) and it will never install/update those. A big difference between MikTeX and TeX Live is that MikTeX has the ability to download packages that aren't already in MikTeX, but are in the MikTeX repository, on the fly when they are encountered in a file during compilation while tlmgr is a separate application and won't do that. On the other hand I believe TeX Live is more complete that the full MikTeX from the start so there is less need to supplement what is already there; my general attitude is to simply use a package and only do something if it is really missing. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From amaxwell at mac.com Fri May 14 22:51:28 2010 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:51:28 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > Herb, will TL 2010 be installable just by using the TeXLive Utility once it's ready, though? Or will we have to download the whole MacTeX package again? Hopefully you won't have to download MacTeX again, but it's unclear at this point. This post by the tlmgr developer is as much as we know: http://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-May/025728.html From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 22:55:43 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:55:43 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > > On May 14, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> >> On 14/05/2010, at 11:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> >>> Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. >>> >> >> Realising there are other priorities, if this could be achieved it would be appreciated. I have in the past missed out on vital package updates because I have relied on the updater to find and install them but the updater itself had no awareness of the updated packages (admittedly that was using MiKTeX and some time ago). > > > Herb, will TL 2010 be installable just by using the TeXLive Utility once it's ready, though? Or will we have to download the whole MacTeX package again? > Howdy, Well... it appears that I had it wrong in my initial statement that tlmgr won't update binaries. In fact tlmgr has the ability to update binaries but, in practice, that has never been used. This is because on the fly binary changes would have to be compiled and available for many different platforms and that would generated way too much work and testing for folks. However, plans are that when TeX Live (TL) 2010 comes out tlmgr (and therefore TeX Live Utility) will be able to update the binaries in TL 2009 to those of TL 2010. So it sounds like binaries will be updated once a year with the introduction of the new version of TL. Then, again once TL 2010 comes out, tlmgr will behave as before and you will basically have a full 2010 system although it will be under /usr/local/texlive/2009/... and update as before. Hope that wasn't too muddled. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 14 23:46:20 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:46:20 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: <0477F9AC-DCD7-4DC9-AF25-E900132C5A65@wideopenwest.com> On May 14, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 14, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > >> >> On May 14, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> >>> >>> On 14/05/2010, at 11:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >>> >>>> Once that update is done there will be no more---at least for a while! There is some talk that there may end up being an update of tlmgr that will allow the continued update of ``packages'' (and fonts but no binaries) at a later date. By that time I suspect that MacTeX-2010 will be out so you can get the updated binaries by installing MacTeX(TeX Live)-2010. >>>> >>> >>> Realising there are other priorities, if this could be achieved it would be appreciated. I have in the past missed out on vital package updates because I have relied on the updater to find and install them but the updater itself had no awareness of the updated packages (admittedly that was using MiKTeX and some time ago). >> >> >> Herb, will TL 2010 be installable just by using the TeXLive Utility once it's ready, though? Or will we have to download the whole MacTeX package again? >> > > Howdy, > > Well... it appears that I had it wrong in my initial statement that tlmgr won't update binaries. In fact tlmgr has the ability to update binaries but, in practice, that has never been used. This is because on the fly binary changes would have to be compiled and available for many different platforms and that would generated way too much work and testing for folks. > > However, plans are that when TeX Live (TL) 2010 comes out tlmgr (and therefore TeX Live Utility) will be able to update the binaries in TL 2009 to those of TL 2010. So it sounds like binaries will be updated once a year with the introduction of the new version of TL. Then, again once TL 2010 comes out, tlmgr will behave as before and you will basically have a full 2010 system although it will be under /usr/local/texlive/2009/... and update as before. > > Hope that wasn't too muddled. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > Howdy, Sigh... Let me add one more thing. Notice I said that there are plans to do all of this. What actually happens in the end will certainly depend on what is felt is possible in the given time frame. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 15 01:01:03 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 19:01:03 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > Well... it appears that I had it wrong in my initial statement that tlmgr won't update binaries. In fact tlmgr has the ability to update binaries but, in practice, that has never been used. This is because on the fly binary changes would have to be compiled and available for many different platforms and that would generated way too much work and testing for folks. > Actually it WAS used after prerelease and release TL2009. /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr.log shows a lot of "universal-darwin" updates and similar binary updates on other platforms (like x86_64-linux). It was never used in the released version http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tex-live/2008-September/018245.html Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 01:42:34 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:42:34 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> > >> Well... it appears that I had it wrong in my initial statement that tlmgr won't update binaries. In fact tlmgr has the ability to update binaries but, in practice, that has never been used. This is because on the fly binary changes would have to be compiled and available for many different platforms and that would generated way too much work and testing for folks. >> > > > Actually it WAS used after prerelease and release TL2009. > > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr.log > > shows a lot of "universal-darwin" updates and similar binary updates > on other platforms (like x86_64-linux). It was never used in the > released version > > > > http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tex-live/2008-September/018245.html > > Victor Howdy, Hmmm... I thought they were simply symbolic links to updated scripts but I see things like bibtex.universal-darwin and that is a true binary. Very interesting. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From dewatson at me.com Sat May 15 03:44:39 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:44:39 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image Message-ID: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for a meeting-in-miniature. For this work, I am using the document class memoir. The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and crop marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of the document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using \settrims. The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover the crop marks. I am using pdfpages to insert the cover artwork, and it works for letter size pdfs inserted into the document, but not for the full sized pdf cover. Does anyone have any experience or any suggestions for placing the pdf (or any other image) BEHIND the crop marks? They require pdfs and asked me to submit bleeds of 0.125, although the trims I suppose could be any size. Any ideas? From dewatson at me.com Sat May 15 04:15:34 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 21:15:34 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> Message-ID: <819E95C4-445D-4250-B511-649B6D6FC3DB@me.com> FWIW, I think I'm going to go with a wider stock paper size and see what they have to say. On May 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, David Watson wrote: > I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for a meeting-in-miniature. > For this work, I am using the document class memoir. > The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and crop marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of the document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using \settrims. > The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover the crop marks. > > I am using pdfpages to insert the cover artwork, and it works for letter size pdfs inserted into the document, but not for the full sized pdf cover. > > Does anyone have any experience or any suggestions for placing the pdf (or any other image) BEHIND the crop marks? > > They require pdfs and asked me to submit bleeds of 0.125, although the trims I suppose could be any size. > Any ideas? > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Sat May 15 05:40:06 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:40:06 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> Message-ID: <224DC827-CB6C-4434-8A2F-DB155F97D5A0@alphabyte.co.nz> Curious I am surprised the printer is asking you to do this. For myself I would not do it. The crop marks are normally set when the plate signatures are created or when the pages are imposed at the earliest, not when the layouts are being created. Certainly it is normal to ensure the trim box is set correctly to ensure that sufficient bleed exists. Even at the most basic level Acrobat would enable this for the printer and with far less fuss that it is for you to do it now (one click in the print dialog and you're done). If your printer cannot achieve this then I would suggest finding a printer who actually knows what they are doing. Alan On 15/05/2010, at 1:44 PM, David Watson wrote: > I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for a > meeting-in-miniature. > For this work, I am using the document class memoir. > The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and crop > marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of the > document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using > \settrims. > The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover > the crop marks. > > I am using pdfpages to insert the cover artwork, and it works for > letter size pdfs inserted into the document, but not for the full > sized pdf cover. > > Does anyone have any experience or any suggestions for placing the > pdf (or any other image) BEHIND the crop marks? > > They require pdfs and asked me to submit bleeds of 0.125, although > the trims I suppose could be any size. > Any ideas? > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Sat May 15 05:41:20 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 15:41:20 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <819E95C4-445D-4250-B511-649B6D6FC3DB@me.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> <819E95C4-445D-4250-B511-649B6D6FC3DB@me.com> Message-ID: On 15/05/2010, at 2:15 PM, David Watson wrote: > FWIW, I think I'm going to go with a wider stock paper size and see > what they have to say. Changing the paper size certainly will mess things up. You have the page box, trim box, and crop box. Each of these extends the page margins by a set amount. Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From dewatson at me.com Sat May 15 06:09:43 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 23:09:43 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> <819E95C4-445D-4250-B511-649B6D6FC3DB@me.com> Message-ID: Well, to be honest, I never talked with a specialist who could give me some guidance. This is the printing services for the University that I work for, and I can tell from the samples and the books that they prepare for professors that use their services that everything is very professional - once it gets to the hands of the ones doing the work. This is the first time I've ever designed something intended for a destination other than a laser printer. I wasn't aware of the need for a "bleed" before now, while I did realize that professional printers use a larger stock and then trim it down. I remember seeing the CMYK "targets" when I was young after what I suppose was a dump-truck malfunction, but I never knew what they were for. On their website, they specify "especially for students" that they can do a maximum of 18.5x12.5 posters, including bleed and registration marks. I was asked this morning to provide bleed, after the cover page (which I had "printed" to pdf using Adobe CS4 with a "bleed" of 0.125 inches, as they asked...) spit the dummy. They recommended that I use a page size of 11.25 by 8.75 and run the image to the edge. Looking more closely at some of the other pages on their website, it appears that they use 13x19 inch stock in their duplexing color digital imager, so I assume that a page size of 13.0x9.5 will allow for two logical pages to be printed side-by-side, while affording me enough room for the trim marks, registration marks, and bleed. Hopefully this will bring down the estimate for the production run. I think the limiting factor here is that the semester just ended, and perhaps the staff who would normally guide neophytes in the proper direction are taking a well deserved vacation. The representative I talked to at the front desk had a huge "?" above her head when I mentioned that I was using GIMP and LaTeX. I hope she wasn't imagining a particularly disturbing scene from Pulp Fiction. On May 14, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 15/05/2010, at 2:15 PM, David Watson wrote: > >> FWIW, I think I'm going to go with a wider stock paper size and see what they have to say. > > > Changing the paper size certainly will mess things up. You have the page box, trim box, and crop box. Each of these extends the page margins by a set amount. > > Alan > > -- > Alan T Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From d.becker at jpberlin.de Sat May 15 08:30:27 2010 From: d.becker at jpberlin.de (Daniel Becker) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:30:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> <819E95C4-445D-4250-B511-649B6D6FC3DB@me.com> Message-ID: <06A72D24-7F71-46CE-AE12-E4396F1BCDE5@jpberlin.de> Am 15.05.2010 um 06:09 schrieb David Watson: > The representative I talked to at the front desk had a huge "?" above her head when I mentioned that I was using GIMP and LaTeX. Usually it helps to send/bring a PDF and to talk about this (not LaTeX), including margins, embedded fonts, maybe grayscaling of figures etc. For crop marks, you could use \usepackage[cam,a4,center,pdflatex]{crop} % frame Daniel From axel.retif at mac.com Sat May 15 06:58:44 2010 From: axel.retif at mac.com (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 23:58:44 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> Message-ID: <0A15599E-D3DC-4B1F-ABE5-41857145B2D8@mac.com> On 14 May, 2010, at 20:44, David Watson wrote: > I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for a meeting-in-miniature. > For this work, I am using the document class memoir. > The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and crop marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of the document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using \settrims. > The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover the crop marks. On 14 May, 2010, at 22:40, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > I am surprised the printer is asking you to do this. I don't think it is uncommon, and it's not that hard ---I use a combination of geometry and crop packages for that. And for the bleeding, the package sidecap (even without a caption!) comes handy, as with it ``a wide environment is defined; it allows to use the margin area, e. g., for figures wider than \textwidth'' ---just don't make the image so big as to cover the crop marks. Some manual adjustment might be necessary; for example, for a frontispiece I did \thispagestyle{empty} \begin{figure}[h!] \vspace*{-8.5pc} \begin{wide} \hspace*{-6.6pc}\includegraphics{frontispicio_cred_8pt} \end{wide} \end{figure} Best, Axel From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 14:14:21 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 07:14:21 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> Message-ID: <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> On May 14, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 14, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >>> >> >>> Well... it appears that I had it wrong in my initial statement that tlmgr won't update binaries. In fact tlmgr has the ability to update binaries but, in practice, that has never been used. This is because on the fly binary changes would have to be compiled and available for many different platforms and that would generated way too much work and testing for folks. >>> >> >> >> Actually it WAS used after prerelease and release TL2009. >> >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/web2c/tlmgr.log >> >> shows a lot of "universal-darwin" updates and similar binary updates >> on other platforms (like x86_64-linux). It was never used in the >> released version >> >> >> >> http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/tex-live/2008-September/018245.html >> >> Victor > > Howdy, > > Hmmm... I thought they were simply symbolic links to updated scripts but I see things like bibtex.universal-darwin and that is a true binary. Very interesting. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > Howdy, I just noticed that bibtex.universal-darwin was in that list and I don't think it has been updated in a long time. I looked at what is in bibtex.universal-darwin via the `Get Info' command in TeX Live Utility (I assume it looks into the tlmgr database) and it appears that only some doc files are part of that ``package.'' So it isn't clear to me that there really was a binary update. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 15 14:28:19 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:28:19 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > I just noticed that bibtex.universal-darwin was in that list and I don't think it has been updated in a long time. I looked at what is in bibtex.universal-darwin via the `Get Info' command in TeX Live Utility (I assume it looks into the tlmgr database) and it appears that only some doc files are part of that ``package.'' So it isn't clear to me that there really was a binary update. > It may be true for bibtex.universal-darwin but definitely not true for asymptote: TL 2009 is with version 1.88 which became stable 2009-10-02 which was after prerelease. Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 14:52:24 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 07:52:24 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> On May 15, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> > >> I just noticed that bibtex.universal-darwin was in that list and I don't think it has been updated in a long time. I looked at what is in bibtex.universal-darwin via the `Get Info' command in TeX Live Utility (I assume it looks into the tlmgr database) and it appears that only some doc files are part of that ``package.'' So it isn't clear to me that there really was a binary update. >> > > > > It may be true for bibtex.universal-darwin but definitely not true for > asymptote: TL 2009 is with version 1.88 which became stable 2009-10-02 > which was after prerelease. > > Victor > -- Howdy, It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a binary update via tlmgr. I remember seeing several asymptote updates. $ ls -al /usr/texbin/asy -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13177648 Oct 3 2009 /usr/texbin/asy and the tlmgr.log has the latest update to asymptote.universal-darwin as [Wed Mar 10 07:40:39 2010] update: asymptote.universal-darwin (16044 -> 17389) finally running $ asy --version Asymptote version 1.88 [(C) 2004 Andy Hammerlindl, John C. Bowman, Tom Prince] so it's the 1.88 version. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 15 15:04:08 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:04:08 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> It may be true for bibtex.universal-darwin but definitely not true for >> asymptote: TL 2009 is with version 1.88 which became stable 2009-10-02 >> which was after prerelease. >> >> Victor >> -- > > Howdy, > > It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a binary update via tlmgr. I remember seeing several asymptote updates. > > $ ls -al /usr/texbin/asy > -rwxr-xr-x ?1 root ?wheel ?13177648 Oct ?3 ?2009 /usr/texbin/asy > > and the tlmgr.log has the latest update to asymptote.universal-darwin as > > [Wed Mar 10 07:40:39 2010] update: asymptote.universal-darwin (16044 -> 17389) > > finally running > > $ asy --version > Asymptote version 1.88 [(C) 2004 Andy Hammerlindl, John C. Bowman, Tom Prince] > > so it's the 1.88 version. > Some of them were and some were not. Asymptote 1.88 became stable (look sourceforge) Oct 2, 2009, after Prerelease. Current stable is 1.94 (and 1.95 in svn) http://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-January/024293.html Victor PS I asked TL if it would be feasible to include in tlmgr.log the actual size of the download -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From dewatson at me.com Sat May 15 15:29:56 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:29:56 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <0A15599E-D3DC-4B1F-ABE5-41857145B2D8@mac.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> <0A15599E-D3DC-4B1F-ABE5-41857145B2D8@mac.com> Message-ID: <2A428D75-C457-4DE3-90EF-6B43E3B0F9C3@me.com> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I may yet have to use them for this project, if the printer doesn't like what I have now. I was able to do most everything with the functionality provided by memoir. For anyone interested in taking a look at the layout of the Book of Abstracts, I have placed a copy on our webserver: http://www.malto2010.org/BoA.pdf On May 14, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote: > On 14 May, 2010, at 20:44, David Watson wrote: > >> I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for a meeting-in-miniature. >> For this work, I am using the document class memoir. >> The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and crop marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of the document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using \settrims. >> The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover the crop marks. > > > On 14 May, 2010, at 22:40, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> I am surprised the printer is asking you to do this. > > > I don't think it is uncommon, and it's not that hard ---I use a combination of geometry and crop packages for that. > > And for the bleeding, the package sidecap (even without a caption!) comes handy, as with it ``a wide environment is defined; it allows to use the margin area, e. g., for figures wider than \textwidth'' ---just don't make the image so big as to cover the crop marks. Some manual adjustment might be necessary; for example, for a frontispiece I did > > \thispagestyle{empty} > \begin{figure}[h!] > \vspace*{-8.5pc} > \begin{wide} > \hspace*{-6.6pc}\includegraphics{frontispicio_cred_8pt} > \end{wide} > \end{figure} > > > Best, > > Axel > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 15:30:02 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:30:02 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On May 15, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> > >>> It may be true for bibtex.universal-darwin but definitely not true for >>> asymptote: TL 2009 is with version 1.88 which became stable 2009-10-02 >>> which was after prerelease. >>> >>> Victor >>> -- >> >> Howdy, >> >> It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a binary update via tlmgr. I remember seeing several asymptote updates. >> >> $ ls -al /usr/texbin/asy >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13177648 Oct 3 2009 /usr/texbin/asy >> >> and the tlmgr.log has the latest update to asymptote.universal-darwin as >> >> [Wed Mar 10 07:40:39 2010] update: asymptote.universal-darwin (16044 -> 17389) >> >> finally running >> >> $ asy --version >> Asymptote version 1.88 [(C) 2004 Andy Hammerlindl, John C. Bowman, Tom Prince] >> >> so it's the 1.88 version. >> > > Some of them were and some were not. Asymptote 1.88 became stable > (look sourceforge) Oct 2, 2009, after Prerelease. > > Current stable is 1.94 (and 1.95 in svn) > > http://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2010-January/024293.html > > > Victor > > PS I asked TL if it would be feasible to include in tlmgr.log the > actual size of the download > > Howdy, Well, I don't remember the last time I actually downloaded an updated MacTeX-2009 installer and used if (I did this for personal testing that all is ok with the distribution) but I assume that Dick Koch re-synced with the source before building it and I know that building asy is a bit of a pain. I'm pretty sure folks would find it quite painful to continuously rebuild things like asy as new stable releases come out for multiple platforms, etc. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 15 16:40:42 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:40:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> Am 15.05.2010 um 14:52 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a > binary update via tlmgr. I do think so: ls -lt /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin | egrep -v '^l' | head -11 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 31142 23. Dez 10:49 fmtutil -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10660496 3. Okt 2009 luatex -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036060 3. Okt 2009 mpost -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16999964 3. Okt 2009 xetex -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2635432 21. Sep 2009 xdvipdfmx -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2859112 18. Sep 2009 pdftex -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 191652 5. Sep 2009 gftype -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 179244 5. Sep 2009 kpsewhich -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1741656 5. Sep 2009 otftotfm -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 150192 28. Aug 2009 T1Wrap -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 195812 28. Aug 2009 afm2pl The end of August files are presumingly from initial instal. -- Greetings Pete If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire catalogue. ? Sears, Roebuck, and Co., Consumer's Guide, 1897 From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 16:53:23 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:53:23 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> Message-ID: On May 15, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 15.05.2010 um 14:52 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > >> It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a binary update via tlmgr. > > > I do think so: > > ls -lt /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin | egrep -v '^l' | head -11 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 31142 23. Dez 10:49 fmtutil > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10660496 3. Okt 2009 luatex > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036060 3. Okt 2009 mpost > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16999964 3. Okt 2009 xetex > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2635432 21. Sep 2009 xdvipdfmx > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2859112 18. Sep 2009 pdftex > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 191652 5. Sep 2009 gftype > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 179244 5. Sep 2009 kpsewhich > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1741656 5. Sep 2009 otftotfm > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 150192 28. Aug 2009 T1Wrap > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 195812 28. Aug 2009 afm2pl > > The end of August files are presumingly from initial instal. > Howdy, Did you use the MacTeX installer? How about the last time you did a full install of TeX Live? It is certainly possible that not all items are updated. I see no changes in 2010 here! I think the official release of TeX Live was in October (or later?) so everything here looks like it could have been from that release and not later. Again, as an example, note that asy hasn't been updated on my system since October, 2009, while while there has been at least one asymptote.universal-darwin update since then. I beleive the last update of aymptote.universal-darwin only adding a chinese translation of the documentation. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 15 17:29:05 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:29:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> Message-ID: <22EDA2FE-94E7-433D-BAD8-5EC0D0259351@Web.DE> Am 15.05.2010 um 16:53 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > Did you use the MacTeX installer? No, I used the TL '09 DVD. It gives more freedom. > How about the last time you did a full install of TeX Live? I think it was last autumn ? when I upgraded to Leopard. So Time Machine cannot be a witness (for me). And I must be wrong with my "initial install" assumption: on Tiger I had a preview from middle of summer which was formatted away for the upgrade. The asy binary was never updated. Therefore the thread on how to compile and install it on Mac OS X. In TL '08 a binary update happened once (a year before): when the font cache bug of pdfTeX was discovered and fixed. Richard Koch then provided new binaries outside of TeX Live. -- Greetings Pete With Capitalism man exploits man. With communism it's the exact opposite. From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 15 17:33:26 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 10:33:26 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: <22EDA2FE-94E7-433D-BAD8-5EC0D0259351@Web.DE> References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> <22EDA2FE-94E7-433D-BAD8-5EC0D0259351@Web.DE> Message-ID: On May 15, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 15.05.2010 um 16:53 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > ... >> How about the last time you did a full install of TeX Live? > > I think it was last autumn ? when I upgraded to Leopard. So Time Machine cannot be a witness (for me). And I must be wrong with my "initial install" assumption: on Tiger I had a preview from middle of summer which was formatted away for the upgrade. > > The asy binary was never updated. Therefore the thread on how to compile and install it on Mac OS X. > Howdy, That's exactly my point... tlmgr.log has asymptote.universal-darwin updates listed and that DOESN'T mean that the binary, asy, was updated. > In TL '08 a binary update happened once (a year before): when the font cache bug of pdfTeX was discovered and fixed. Richard Koch then provided new binaries outside of TeX Live. > The question is whether there were binary updates via tlmgr for TeX Live 2009? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 15 18:08:03 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 18:08:03 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> <75105B48-704D-4CCD-95AD-345CB55F3AC5@Web.DE> <22EDA2FE-94E7-433D-BAD8-5EC0D0259351@Web.DE> Message-ID: <36404E08-5593-49FD-8CCA-1C86A90B60ED@Web.DE> Am 15.05.2010 um 17:33 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > The question is whether there were binary updates via tlmgr for TeX > Live 2009? What is Time Machine telling? It hopefully backups TeX Live binaries... -- Greetings Pete What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software 'releases.' Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake. From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Sat May 15 22:28:06 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 08:28:06 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Slightly OT] Crop marks over a full page image In-Reply-To: <2A428D75-C457-4DE3-90EF-6B43E3B0F9C3@me.com> References: <757322D2-B712-4B46-ABAB-0B3A6DE9C594@me.com> <0A15599E-D3DC-4B1F-ABE5-41857145B2D8@mac.com> <2A428D75-C457-4DE3-90EF-6B43E3B0F9C3@me.com> Message-ID: OK. I have looked at this and you ought to have no problem with those crop marks. You have no need to worry about crops being overlaid by the image. The guillotine has a long straight edge and will cut those just as easily as when it cuts the other pages that will be on the same line, at the same time. You are correct that commercial printing practice requires a larger sheet size but this has only partial reference to page size in that pages on a printed sheet of paper need to also include the crops and justification marks plus various other printers' marks. The size of the sheet is more dependent upon the type of press being used and the printing plates that are going onto it, whether the press is sheet fed, web offset, etc. Laser printing has very in relation to this process. Normally I will give over the job of creating the crops and other printers' marks to the prepress house because they know what kind of plates are going to be used and how the imposed pages will be laid up as signatures on the press. I don't care about that when making books, it is not my job and is what they are paid to do. Having had a printing company in the past I know the frustration that comes from prepress staff when they get jobs that are compiled poorly. One of the worst offenders in this instance are those 'designers' who think they can do it better than the prepress staff and they have to then waste time removing unnecessary or edit poorly executed page layouts. Unfortunately admin staff staff (sounds like those you have been dealing with) have little more knowledge and add the the frustration of those who actually have to do the work. Alan On 16/05/2010, at 1:29 AM, David Watson wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. > I may yet have to use them for this project, if the printer doesn't > like what I have now. > > I was able to do most everything with the functionality provided by > memoir. > > For anyone interested in taking a look at the layout of the Book of > Abstracts, I have placed a copy on our webserver: > http://www.malto2010.org/BoA.pdf > > > > On May 14, 2010, at 11:58 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote: > >> On 14 May, 2010, at 20:44, David Watson wrote: >> >>> I am currently in the process of compiling a book of abstracts for >>> a meeting-in-miniature. >>> For this work, I am using the document class memoir. >>> The printer want bleeds for the cover page of 0.125 inches, and >>> crop marks, which I've figured out how to do for the remainder of >>> the document (resetting the \stockheight and \stockwidth and using >>> \settrims. >>> The cover page is a real doozy, however, because the bleeds cover >>> the crop marks. >> >> >> On 14 May, 2010, at 22:40, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> >>> I am surprised the printer is asking you to do this. >> >> >> I don't think it is uncommon, and it's not that hard ---I use a >> combination of geometry and crop packages for that. >> >> And for the bleeding, the package sidecap (even without a caption!) >> comes handy, as with it ``a wide environment is defined; it allows >> to use the margin area, e. g., for figures wider than \textwidth'' >> ---just don't make the image so big as to cover the crop marks. >> Some manual adjustment might be necessary; for example, for a >> frontispiece I did >> >> \thispagestyle{empty} >> \begin{figure}[h!] >> \vspace*{-8.5pc} >> \begin{wide} >> \hspace*{-6.6pc}\includegraphics{frontispicio_cred_8pt} >> \end{wide} >> \end{figure} >> >> >> Best, >> >> Axel >> >> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >> > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sat May 15 22:08:01 2010 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:08:01 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX Live (MacTeX) 2010 Developement has Started. In-Reply-To: References: <7DDDAF6A-843D-4204-8135-42BDBB8F901D@wideopenwest.com> <608F6ED8-7B37-4B89-A791-804B606260B5@gmx.com> <251BC6F3-1B70-4D8D-9B08-DF44893A4CDE@wideopenwest.com> <0948481B-DE18-4DA4-B09F-0AF2ECBF380B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: Folks, On May 15, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >>> It would definitely be interesting to know if there really was a binary update via tlmgr. I remember seeing several asymptote updates. Unless someone else is making binary updates behind my back, there have been no binary updates of universal-darwin for TeX Live 2009 since the release of the distribution. The MacTeX package on CTAN is dated later than the release because I silently updated some of the GUI apps, thinking that folks new to the release might as well get the latest versions. I didn't announce this change because those who already have MacTeX should update GUI apps via Sparkle and update TeX Live with TeX Live Manager. Dick Koch From jthoo at yccd.edu Mon May 17 16:02:00 2010 From: jthoo at yccd.edu (John B. Thoo) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 07:02:00 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? Message-ID: Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. ---John. (receives the digest version of MacOSX-TeX list) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Watch for Bikes! From dewatson at me.com Mon May 17 16:49:54 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:49:54 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73A90DD4-0128-4C80-815C-5D516A522E95@me.com> On May 17, 2010, at 9:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. If you are drawing diagrams, I think Tikz provides beautiful output, but perhaps a steeper learning curve. Definitely look through the wonderful manual and see if the examples there are appropriate for the types of diagrams you wish to prepare. Inkscape is probably more suited as a free replacement for Illustrator, although it isn't marketed as such. You can export svg, eps, ps, and pdf (depending on your Mac OS X version), which is valuable if you appreciate such things as vector artwork that can be scaled without loss of resolution. I save my work as eps files (beware that Inkscape doesn't output a proper bounding box!) which I convert to pdf with epstopdf. I've used gnuplot, Mathematica and R for plotting mathematical/statistical data - again, using the epstopdf route - and these programs have native "latex" output modes, should you want to try that. They all require more or less of learning curve in order to produce plots that are informative, but I think the final product is well worth the trouble. It's hard to know "what's better" without knowing what you are trying to do. Good luck! From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 17 17:22:09 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:22:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B05BD7B-6941-4185-ACA5-F8074EE1FE77@Web.DE> Am 17.05.2010 um 16:02 schrieb John B. Thoo: > Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, > or something like xfig or Inkscape? I'd try to use "internal" graphics, i.e., PSTricks or Tikz. They don't fill up your disk with a dozen of different file types and resolutions and size adaptations to space in your document. The caption or legend of the picture does not scale to giant block graphics or something illegibly small. But if you want to create a rather realistic 3-D landscape, on a not yet discovered stony or watery planet, then other means are recommended. -- Greetings Pete The best way to accelerate a PC is 9.8 m/s? From acwfenn at ntlworld.com Mon May 17 17:23:52 2010 From: acwfenn at ntlworld.com (Adam Fenn) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:23:52 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: <2B05BD7B-6941-4185-ACA5-F8074EE1FE77@Web.DE> References: <2B05BD7B-6941-4185-ACA5-F8074EE1FE77@Web.DE> Message-ID: <8d5a949c90d0603f90af2186bffd5e03@ntlworld.com> On 17 May 2010, at 16:22, Peter Dyballa wrote: > But if you want to create a rather realistic 3-D landscape, on a not > yet discovered stony or watery planet, then other means are > recommended. What would you use for that? Adam. From z_californianus-dated-1274543352.4a9fbf at shiftingbalance.org Mon May 17 17:49:08 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274543352.4a9fbf at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:49:08 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So far as I know xfig is pretty much dead. Maybe someone else knows more about it, though. On May 17, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. > > ---John. > (receives the digest version of MacOSX-TeX list) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Watch for Bikes! > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 From amunn at gmx.com Mon May 17 19:14:35 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:14:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45413C89-D5F4-4C7A-A680-ECF2B36CFAA4@gmx.com> On May 17, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw > diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like > xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. As others have said, a lot depends on what kinds of data you are drawing. As a user of both PSTricks and TikZ, for most things they are equivalent; if I were starting from scratch, I would recommend going with TikZ, since it works seamlessly with pdflatex and xelatex, whereas pstricks needs to be compiled with latex - dvips- ps2pdf (not entirely accurate, but close enough). TikZ is also somewhat better documented, (although the documentation is not always the easiest to understand). But the documentation for pstricks has improved dramatically recently. Both have substantial user bases and are well supported, so getting questions answered is usually not too difficult either, although my impression is that more people are now using TikZ over PStricks. PStricks has superior mathematical capabilities since TikZ relies on TeX's math. Both have substantial libraries for commonly drawn elements, which often times makes them superior to any GUI type program, again depending on the sorts of things you are drawing. For plotting real data, though, output from e.g. R would make more sense. (There's even a TikZ output device being developed for R, which would be another reason to use TikZ if you are independently using R.) Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From timbrophy at mac.com Mon May 17 17:20:31 2010 From: timbrophy at mac.com (Tim Brophy) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:20:31 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: <73A90DD4-0128-4C80-815C-5D516A522E95@me.com> References: <73A90DD4-0128-4C80-815C-5D516A522E95@me.com> Message-ID: <51F65AC2-1C3F-4718-8243-02AEE6564B3B@mac.com> The application GeoGebra can produce beautiful art work and has an option to translate it into Tikz. It is certainly worth considering. Tim Brophy On 17 May 2010, at 15:49, David Watson wrote: > On May 17, 2010, at 9:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > >> Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. > > If you are drawing diagrams, I think Tikz provides beautiful output, but perhaps a steeper learning curve. > Definitely look through the wonderful manual and see if the examples there are appropriate for the types of diagrams you wish to prepare. > > Inkscape is probably more suited as a free replacement for Illustrator, although it isn't marketed as such. > You can export svg, eps, ps, and pdf (depending on your Mac OS X version), which is valuable if you appreciate such things as vector artwork that can be scaled without loss of resolution. > I save my work as eps files (beware that Inkscape doesn't output a proper bounding box!) which I convert to pdf with epstopdf. > > I've used gnuplot, Mathematica and R for plotting mathematical/statistical data - again, using the epstopdf route - and these programs have native "latex" output modes, should you want to try that. > They all require more or less of learning curve in order to produce plots that are informative, but I think the final product is well worth the trouble. > > It's hard to know "what's better" without knowing what you are trying to do. > > Good luck! > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From lvcargnini at gmail.com Mon May 17 21:39:53 2010 From: lvcargnini at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lu=EDs_Vit=F3rio_Cargnini?=) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:39:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: <45413C89-D5F4-4C7A-A680-ECF2B36CFAA4@gmx.com> References: <45413C89-D5F4-4C7A-A680-ECF2B36CFAA4@gmx.com> Message-ID: Hi to all, Sorry to ask but ... what is R ? Vitorio. Le 17 mai 2010 ? 19:14, Alan Munn a ?crit : > > On May 17, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > >> Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. > > > As others have said, a lot depends on what kinds of data you are drawing. As a user of both PSTricks and TikZ, for most things they are equivalent; if I were starting from scratch, I would recommend going with TikZ, since it works seamlessly with pdflatex and xelatex, whereas pstricks needs to be compiled with latex - dvips- ps2pdf (not entirely accurate, but close enough). > > TikZ is also somewhat better documented, (although the documentation is not always the easiest to understand). But the documentation for pstricks has improved dramatically recently. Both have substantial user bases and are well supported, so getting questions answered is usually not too difficult either, although my impression is that more people are now using TikZ over PStricks. PStricks has superior mathematical capabilities since TikZ relies on TeX's math. Both have substantial libraries for commonly drawn elements, which often times makes them superior to any GUI type program, again depending on the sorts of things you are drawing. > > For plotting real data, though, output from e.g. R would make more sense. (There's even a TikZ output device being developed for R, which would be another reason to use TikZ if you are independently using R.) > > Alan > > > -- > Alan Munn > amunn at gmx.com > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3682 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jmfont at ub.edu Mon May 17 22:29:04 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:29:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: <45413C89-D5F4-4C7A-A680-ECF2B36CFAA4@gmx.com> Message-ID: <81E377A3-6F9D-49BD-A428-F1193CA09C1D@ub.edu> El 17/05/2010, a las 21:39, Lu?s Vit?rio Cargnini escribi?: > Sorry to ask but ... what is R ? The *first* hit in Google when asking just for "R" is http://www.r-project.org/ Enjoy, JMaF From joseph.slater at wright.edu Mon May 17 22:15:01 2010 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater PE, PhD) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:15:01 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: <51F65AC2-1C3F-4718-8243-02AEE6564B3B@mac.com> References: <73A90DD4-0128-4C80-815C-5D516A522E95@me.com> <51F65AC2-1C3F-4718-8243-02AEE6564B3B@mac.com> Message-ID: <8943442D-E8D3-4DD9-A53C-9C3D01CA1D37@wright.edu> On May 17, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Tim Brophy wrote: > The application GeoGebra can produce beautiful art work and has an option to translate it into Tikz. It is certainly worth considering. > > Tim Brophy > I'm a big fan of IPE. You can get GUI drawing and embed latex directly. I haven't used it for a while, though. It seems to be neglected on the mac, but is still nice. jfig is a continued development of xfig, but with reduced export options. I like to be able to get to metapost in many cases because you can "hand code" details and tweaks, so I go to xfig sometimes as well. I do hand-code metapost from time to time. Joe From joseph.slater at wright.edu Mon May 17 22:17:52 2010 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater PE, PhD) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:17:52 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <785253D3-8CF9-41FD-8778-39829D399E6F@wright.edu> On May 17, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John B. Thoo wrote: > Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. > > ---John. Please consider adding what you learn to the wiki. a) I missed that you wanted diagrams, and b) we could really use a page on the wiki that addresses this. Thanks, Joe From fergdc at uleth.ca Tue May 18 03:05:07 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:05:07 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents Message-ID: Greetings All, I am using \documentclass{amsbook} and within it want a table of contents. The current setup includes: Title page Preface and then I want the Table of Contents to be listed. The source file reads ---------------- % end of preface \newpage \chapter*{Table of Contents} \tableofcontents \mainmatter ... and so forth ---------------- A table of contents is produced but it only includes entries for 'chapter' and 'sections'. Would like entries for 'subsections' and 'subsubsections' as well. Since I have read documents which do have the "deeper" table of contents, there must be some way to so specify. So far any docs I've read say nothing about how to include 'subsections' and 'subsubsections'. Where should I be looking and how is it done? Many thanks and Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From z_californianus-dated-1274581462.f640b1 at shiftingbalance.org Tue May 18 04:24:19 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274581462.f640b1 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:24:19 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] BibDesk 1.5.2 now available---new release Message-ID: Greetings all! The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new release of BibDesk, version 1.5.2, is now available. It can be downloaded directly at: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/bibdesk/BibDesk-1.5.2.dmg. BibDesk will automatically detect the new version, in accord with settings in the BibDesk preferences; and users may view release notes and see a prompt to download the new version by selecting "Check for Updates" from the "BibDesk" menu within the application. More information is available at the BibDesk web page, at: http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ The discussants on the bibdesk-users mailing list have, as always, made important contributions to identifying and fixing bugs, and suggesting and testing new features. Thanks! Release notes are as follows. New Features ? You can now follow links in citation fields from the main table ? Improved display of search groups in group table ? Added web group support for SpringerLink and IACR archives, as well as generic bibTeX ? Add menu action to select all crossref parents of selected items ? Improvements to Script menu, smarter updating, allow custom ordering, support for automator workflows Bugs Fixed ? Fix accidental overwrite of fields when changing publication type ? Parse @string macro definitions from files that use parenthesis ? Fix size of icons in add bookmark sheets ? You should not be able to drag a group outline item ? Use improved contextual menu support in tables ? 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URL: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Tue May 18 05:22:40 2010 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:22:40 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Change tocdepth to what the depth you want i.e. \setcounter{tocdepth}{3} for chapters, sections and subsections. Aaron On May 17, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Greetings All, > > I am using \documentclass{amsbook} and within it want a table of > contents. The current setup includes: > > Title page > Preface > > and then I want the Table of Contents to be listed. The source file > reads > ---------------- > % end of preface > > \newpage > \chapter*{Table of Contents} > \tableofcontents > > \mainmatter > ... and so forth > ---------------- > > A table of contents is produced but it only includes entries for > 'chapter' and 'sections'. Would like entries for 'subsections' and > 'subsubsections' as well. Since I have read documents which do have > the "deeper" table of contents, there must be some way to so specify. > > So far any docs I've read say nothing about how to include > 'subsections' and 'subsubsections'. Where should I be looking and > how is it done? > > Many thanks and > > > Cheers Don (Green Dragon) > -- > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From lantzs at trine.edu Tue May 18 08:29:29 2010 From: lantzs at trine.edu (Lantz Susan) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:29:29 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Creating a new math character Message-ID: I need to create (or find a way to be able to type) a character that looks like a V with a horizontal line through it that can be used in math mode. Is there a way to do that? I have, in the past (in plain TeX), created a math operator that goes under a character, but modifying the two commands that create that operator results in the horizontal line under the V, no matter how much I raise or lower the bar. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Susan Lantz Susan A. Lantz, Ph.D. Associate Professor & Chair Wade Dept. of Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering Trine University Angola, IN 46703 260.665.4229 lantzs at trine.edu From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 18 12:22:48 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:22:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Creating a new math character In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 18.05.2010 um 08:29 schrieb Lantz Susan: > I need to create (or find a way to be able to type) a character that > looks like a V with a horizontal line through it that can be used in > math mode. Are you looking for this: ?, FOR ALL at U+2200? In Arev Sans, Asana Math, DejaVu, Free{Sans,Serif, Mono}, MnSymbol, STIX, Unicode Symbols... You could take an A and rotate it (with \rotatebox in graphics) by 180?... Have you checked /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/doc/latex/ comprehensive/symbols-{a4,letter}.pdf? -- Greetings Pete If it does exist, it's out of date. ? Arnold's Second Law of Documentation From amunn at gmx.com Tue May 18 13:10:16 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:10:16 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08AAF1B2-287B-4A69-826D-6CD9E8D9769B@gmx.com> On May 17, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Greetings All, > > I am using \documentclass{amsbook} and within it want a table of > contents. The current setup includes: > > A table of contents is produced but it only includes entries for > 'chapter' and 'sections'. Would like entries for 'subsections' and > 'subsubsections' as well. Since I have read documents which do have > the "deeper" table of contents, there must be some way to so specify. > > So far any docs I've read say nothing about how to include > 'subsections' and 'subsubsections'. Where should I be looking and > how is it done? The amsbook class is designed to meet the requirements of the AMS, and isn't designed to be customised. I would recommend that you use a more general book class such as memoir for your project. That being said, you could add the following to your document preamble \setcounter{tocdepth}{4} % \makeatletter \expandafter\def\csname r at tocindent4\endcsname{0pt} \makeatother Solution due to Ulrike Fischer here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/21cebbb34004c5ad? But the next thing you want to change won't be so simple, so I really would suggest using memoir. Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From lantzs at trine.edu Wed May 19 00:32:40 2010 From: lantzs at trine.edu (Lantz Susan) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:32:40 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] RE: Creating a new math character In-Reply-To: <20100518190007.79CF1143FEB4@email> References: <20100518190007.79CF1143FEB4@email> Message-ID: Peter, I am not looking for the "for all" symbol. The V with a horizontal line through it is used in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics to represent the volume---and to distinguish it from the velocity, which is written (or typed) as a v without a horizontal line through it. Unlike the "for all" symbol, the horizontal line on the volume character extends past the sides of the V. Susan Lantz -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:22:48 +0200 From: Peter Dyballa Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Creating a new math character To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Am 18.05.2010 um 08:29 schrieb Lantz Susan: > I need to create (or find a way to be able to type) a character that > looks like a V with a horizontal line through it that can be used in > math mode. Are you looking for this: ???, FOR ALL at U+2200? In Arev Sans, Asana Math, DejaVu, Free{Sans,Serif, Mono}, MnSymbol, STIX, Unicode Symbols... You could take an A and rotate it (with \rotatebox in graphics) by 180??... Have you checked /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/doc/latex/ comprehensive/symbols-{a4,letter}.pdf? -- Greetings Pete If it does exist, it's out of date. ??? Arnold's Second Law of Documentation From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Wed May 19 00:56:31 2010 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:56:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] RE: Creating a new math character In-Reply-To: References: <20100518190007.79CF1143FEB4@email> Message-ID: <9114F642-43B3-4BC8-BAA1-AAE7A3A799D3@xs4all.nl> Hi, On 19 mei 2010, at 00:32, Lantz Susan wrote: > I am not looking for the "for all" symbol. The V with a horizontal line through it is used in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics to represent the volume---and to distinguish it from the velocity, which is written (or typed) as a v without a horizontal line through it. > > Unlike the "for all" symbol, the horizontal line on the volume character extends past the sides of the V. The comprehensive symbol list also contains some advice on how to combine symbols to produce your own. I think you'll need to follow that route. Maarten > Am 18.05.2010 um 08:29 schrieb Lantz Susan: > >> I need to create (or find a way to be able to type) a character that >> looks like a V with a horizontal line through it that can be used in >> math mode. > > Are you looking for this: ???, FOR ALL at U+2200? In Arev Sans, Asana > Math, DejaVu, Free{Sans,Serif, Mono}, MnSymbol, STIX, Unicode Symbols... > > You could take an A and rotate it (with \rotatebox in graphics) by > 180??... > > > Have you checked /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/doc/latex/ > comprehensive/symbols-{a4,letter}.pdf? From amunn at gmx.com Wed May 19 01:13:26 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:13:26 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] RE: Creating a new math character In-Reply-To: <9114F642-43B3-4BC8-BAA1-AAE7A3A799D3@xs4all.nl> References: <20100518190007.79CF1143FEB4@email> <9114F642-43B3-4BC8-BAA1-AAE7A3A799D3@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <96DC5617-5214-46F3-987E-4B57947E98D8@gmx.com> On May 18, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Maarten Sneep wrote: > Hi, > > On 19 mei 2010, at 00:32, Lantz Susan wrote: > >> I am not looking for the "for all" symbol. The V with a horizontal >> line through it is used in thermodynamics and fluid mechanics to >> represent the volume---and to distinguish it from the velocity, >> which is written (or typed) as a v without a horizontal line >> through it. >> >> Unlike the "for all" symbol, the horizontal line on the volume >> character extends past the sides of the V. > > The comprehensive symbol list also contains some advice on how to > combine symbols to produce your own. I think you'll need to follow > that route. > I just sent a message to this effect too, but it seems to have disappeared entirely. Perhaps this will do what you want: \def\vbar{{\raisebox{.4ex}{$\relbar$}\mkern-14mu V}} Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From fergdc at uleth.ca Wed May 19 10:03:09 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 02:03:09 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings "Aaron Jackson" On 18/05/2010 at 03:22 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents Hi Aaron, AJ> Change tocdepth to what the depth you want i.e. AJ> \setcounter{tocdepth}{3} AJ> for chapters, sections and subsections. Sounds like a simple solution, but .... On setting tocdepth to 3, as in your example, I get a strange error message that vanishes if one comments out the line ?\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}?. Also, upon trying \setcounter{tocdepth}{2} there was no error message and the TOC was constructed with 'three' levels: chapter, section, subsection. However, the indenting is poor. Instead of something like Chapter 1. ?title of chapter? 1. Banach's View. 1.1. Preliminary definitions. 1.2. An interjection. there appeared: Chapter 1. ?title of chapter? 1. Banach's View. 1.1. Preliminary definitions. 1.2. An interjection. For example,on examining Gr?tzer's TOC, I see three 'levels' with nice indentation: 5 Typing text 61 5.1 The keyboard . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62 5.1.1 Basic keys . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62 5.1.2 Special keys . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63 5.1.3 Prohibited keys . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63 Did not notice previously, but it appears that three levels is the max! Is that true? How do you get the chapter number included automatically as in the Gr?tzer example? Many thanks for you help. Cheers, Don (The Green Dragon) From fergdc at uleth.ca Wed May 19 10:24:51 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 02:24:51 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: <08AAF1B2-287B-4A69-826D-6CD9E8D9769B@gmx.com> Message-ID: Greetings "Alan Munn" On 18/05/2010 at 11:10 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents Hello Alan, AM>> I am using \documentclass{amsbook} and within it want a table of AM>> contents. The current setup includes: AM>> AM>> A table of contents is produced but it only includes entries for AM>> 'chapter' and 'sections'. Would like entries for 'subsections' and AM>> 'subsubsections' as well. Since I have read documents which do have AM>> the "deeper" table of contents, there must be some way to so specify. AM>> AM>> So far any docs I've read say nothing about how to include AM>> 'subsections' and 'subsubsections'. Where should I be looking and AM>> how is it done? AM> The amsbook class is designed to meet the requirements of the AMS, and AM> isn't designed to be customised. I would recommend that you use a AM> more general book class such as memoir for your project. Interesting! Memoir? Okay, I'll try it! AM> That being said, you could add the following to your document preamble AM> \setcounter{tocdepth}{4} % AM> \makeatletter AM> \expandafter\def\csname r at tocindent4\endcsname{0pt} AM> \makeatother Setting tocdepth to 4 with {amsbook} had no effect for me. However, the part r at tocindent4 rang a bell. On setting tocdepth to 3, I was getting the error message: --------- ./Mechanics.tex:593: Missing number, treated as zero. \r at tocindent4 l.593 F or any vectors $\mathbf{a,b,x}$: ----------- I could find no error in the text that supposedly lodged the complaint. AM> Solution due to Ulrike Fischer here: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/21cebbb34004c5ad? Thanks for the reference. AM> But the next thing you want to change won't be so simple, so I really AM> would suggest using memoir. Had not even heard of memoir as a document class! ;-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From morelli at flux.utah.edu Wed May 19 13:19:42 2010 From: morelli at flux.utah.edu (Robert Morelli) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 05:19:42 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Drawing diagrams: what's better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BF3C94E.8020107@flux.utah.edu> John B. Thoo wrote: > Hi, everyone. I hope this isn't a FAQ: Is it better to draw diagrams > using something like PSTricks or Tikz, or something like xfig or > Inkscape? What are the pros and cons? TIA. > To PSTricks and Tikz, I'd add Asymptote. When you mention xfig and Inkscape, you don't explain how you intend to use them. Do you just mean to generate ordinary graphic files which you will include with \includegraphics? Or do you want to use some level of integration with LaTeX? For instance, do you need to include LaTeX text in your diagrams? Here's my take. I see only two advantages to using image editor software. 1. They generally have a quicker learning curve than the packages. 2. Certain kinds of diagrams are quicker to create in image editing software than in a package. There are numerous disadvantages of using image editing software, and advantages of using a LaTeX package. 1. Using an image editor means having to use two separate pieces of software to generate your documents. 2. Using an image editor therefore exposes you to the maintenance problems of the image editor. What if development of it stops? What if it's incompatible with an upgrade of OS X? What if you want to switch to a different OS? Etc. When I tried to use Inkscape, I ran into bugs when I upgraded to Snow Leopard. I couldn't find fixes, so I abandoned Inkscape. 3. Including the graphics in the LaTeX document requires a bunch of setup and manual coordination. 4. Your document source must involve multiple files and hand coded references between them. 5. Compiling the document involves multiple steps. This get rather tedious when you are making frequent tweaks to the diagrams. 6. Some kinds of diagrams are more tedious to create with image editors. For instance, if you have a pattern you want to repeat in a number of positions, you can generate it in TikZ with a loop. In an image editor, you'd have to copy and paste the image by hand. It's even worse if you want to modify the pattern depending on where it is placed. 7. With LaTeX packages, you can include LaTeX text (like mathematical equations) without a hassle. 8. With a package like TikZ, you can automate and parametrize the generation of a diagram. For instance, suppose you're creating a document about trigonometry. You could create a function in TikZ that creates a labeled triangle with given angle and side length data, and given side and angle labels. Then every time you need a diagram of a triangle, you need only write a LaTeX command with the appropriate parameters. ... From ramonf at hawaii.edu Wed May 19 16:59:51 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines Message-ID: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I have created a couple of bash scripts and a "launchd" launch agent to control them, with detailed instructions on how to use them, that allow the user to remotely typeset TeX documents, using any of the engines installed in TeXShop's Engines folder. You can get them here . I have also included reviews of the different programs that I have purchased and tried on the iPad to do the editing of the TeX files and viewing of the resulting PDFs. My favorite, so far, is FTP on the Go Pro (I have included 4 screen shots wit the review that explain why this is so). Please let me know if you find any bugs, have any suggestion to clarify the instructions or have ideas for improvement. Mahalo, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/LaTeX-on-the-iPad-using-TeXShop-Engines-tp5075337p5075337.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From amunn at gmx.com Wed May 19 18:22:44 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:22:44 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33ADFDD3-FD14-4A5F-8F10-151DB14234F6@gmx.com> On May 19, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Greetings "Alan Munn" > On 18/05/2010 at 11:10 you wrote concerning > Re: [OS X TeX] Shallow table of contents > > Hello Alan, > > AM>> I am using \documentclass{amsbook} and within it want a table of > AM>> contents. The current setup includes: > AM>> > AM>> A table of contents is produced but it only includes entries for > AM>> 'chapter' and 'sections'. Would like entries for 'subsections' > and > AM>> 'subsubsections' as well. Since I have read documents which do > have > AM>> the "deeper" table of contents, there must be some way to so > specify. > AM>> > AM>> So far any docs I've read say nothing about how to include > AM>> 'subsections' and 'subsubsections'. Where should I be looking and > AM>> how is it done? > > > AM> The amsbook class is designed to meet the requirements of the > AMS, and > AM> isn't designed to be customised. I would recommend that you use a > AM> more general book class such as memoir for your project. > > Interesting! Memoir? Okay, I'll try it! > > > AM> That being said, you could add the following to your document > preamble > > AM> \setcounter{tocdepth}{4} % > AM> \makeatletter > AM> \expandafter\def\csname r at tocindent4\endcsname{0pt} > AM> \makeatother > > Setting tocdepth to 4 with {amsbook} had no effect for me. I don't know what this means. By itself, it won't do anything. It's true that for your purposes, setting it to 3 or 4 won't make a difference. (Setting it to 4 will allow \paragraph{} to be included in the table of contents; setting it to 3 goes down to subsubsection. > However, the part > > r at tocindent4 > > rang a bell. I'm not sure what this means either. > On setting tocdepth to 3, I was getting the error message: > > --------- > ./Mechanics.tex:593: Missing number, treated as zero. > > \r at tocindent4 > l.593 F > or any vectors $\mathbf{a,b,x}$: > ----------- > > I could find no error in the text that supposedly lodged the > complaint. > This isn't caused by the code I gave you, but by something else in your document. The following minimal document compiles and does exactly what you requested, so there's something else going on in your document: \documentclass{amsbook} \setcounter{tocdepth}{3} % \makeatletter \expandafter\def\csname r at tocindent4\endcsname{0pt} \makeatother \begin{document} \tableofcontents \chapter{A chapter} \section{A section} \subsection{A subsection } \subsubsection{A subsubsection} \end{document} Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Wed May 19 18:30:27 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:30:27 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: <33ADFDD3-FD14-4A5F-8F10-151DB14234F6@gmx.com> References: <33ADFDD3-FD14-4A5F-8F10-151DB14234F6@gmx.com> Message-ID: <738CF43C-D663-49EA-A945-26E223F03859@gmail.com> On May 19, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > > On May 19, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > >> On setting tocdepth to 3, I was getting the error message: >> >> --------- >> ./Mechanics.tex:593: Missing number, treated as zero. >> >> \r at tocindent4 >> l.593 F >> or any vectors $\mathbf{a,b,x}$: >> ----------- >> >> I could find no error in the text that supposedly lodged the >> complaint. >> > > This isn't caused by the code I gave you, but by something else in > your document. Whenever >> Missing number, treated as zero. >> happens to me, I immediately suspect a missing $. Regards --schremmer From dewatson at me.com Wed May 19 20:26:55 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:26:55 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Shallow table of contents In-Reply-To: <738CF43C-D663-49EA-A945-26E223F03859@gmail.com> References: <33ADFDD3-FD14-4A5F-8F10-151DB14234F6@gmx.com> <738CF43C-D663-49EA-A945-26E223F03859@gmail.com> Message-ID: <68B540C2-9019-43FF-A6AE-77FA871CB7CB@me.com> On May 19, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 19, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > >> >> On May 19, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Ferguson, Don wrote: >> >>> On setting tocdepth to 3, I was getting the error message: >>> >>> --------- >>> ./Mechanics.tex:593: Missing number, treated as zero. >>> >>> \r at tocindent4 >>> l.593 F >>> or any vectors $\mathbf{a,b,x}$: >>> ----------- >>> >>> I could find no error in the text that supposedly lodged the complaint. >>> >> >> This isn't caused by the code I gave you, but by something else in your document. > > Whenever > >>> Missing number, treated as zero. >>> > > happens to me, I immediately suspect a missing $. I've noticed these when you LaTeX expects a number, such as \enlargethispage{1em} but you don't put it in right (e.g. \enlargethispage 1em). This can happen with \vspace, in a tabular "p{}" specification - basically whenever you either don't specify the length. From lantzs at trine.edu Wed May 19 21:44:00 2010 From: lantzs at trine.edu (Lantz Susan) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:44:00 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] RE: Creating a new math character In-Reply-To: <20100519190008.27662144F648@email> References: <20100519190008.27662144F648@email> Message-ID: Thanks to Peter, Marten, and Alan for their responses! Alan's solution (\def\vbar{{\raisebox{.4ex}{$\relbar$}\mkern-14mu V}}) works beautifully in text and displayed equations, and I was able to modify it for when the barred V occurred in subscripts/superscripts of integrals. Susan Lantz From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 19 22:20:02 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:20:02 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> On May 19, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > I have created a couple of bash scripts and a "launchd" launch agent to > control them, with detailed instructions on how to use them, that allow the > user to remotely typeset TeX documents, using any of the engines installed > in TeXShop's Engines folder. You can get them here > . > > I have also included reviews of the different programs that I have purchased > and tried on the iPad to do the editing of the TeX files and viewing of the > resulting PDFs. > > My favorite, so far, is FTP on the Go Pro (I have included 4 screen shots > wit the review that explain why this is so). > > Please let me know if you find any bugs, have any suggestion to clarify the > instructions or have ideas for improvement. > > Mahalo, > > Ram?n Howdy, Now... if I only had an iPad... Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Thu May 20 15:43:58 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:43:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> On May 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 19, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > >> >> Aloha, >> >> I have created a couple of bash scripts and a "launchd" launch agent to >> control them, with detailed instructions on how to use them, that allow the >> user to remotely typeset TeX documents, using any of the engines installed >> in TeXShop's Engines folder. You can get them here >> . >> > > Howdy, > > Now... if I only had an iPad... > You're not alone. Congress feels the same way... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37518.html Themis From gratzer at me.com Thu May 20 16:30:41 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:30:41 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering Message-ID: In a book, theorem like structures are numbered anew in each chapter. How can I override this, and have them numbered from 1 to infinity? GG From gratzer at me.com Thu May 20 16:28:32 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:28:32 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E425347-DE2D-4ABD-BD69-46853ACA20AF@me.com> It's funny. I read Politico every day and I missed this one. GG On 2010-05-20, at 8:43 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On May 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> >> On May 19, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: >> >>> >>> Aloha, >>> >>> I have created a couple of bash scripts and a "launchd" launch agent to >>> control them, with detailed instructions on how to use them, that allow the >>> user to remotely typeset TeX documents, using any of the engines installed >>> in TeXShop's Engines folder. You can get them here >>> . >>> >> >> Howdy, >> >> Now... if I only had an iPad... >> > > You're not alone. Congress feels the same way... > > http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37518.html > > Themis > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From vivrii at gmail.com Thu May 20 16:40:58 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:40:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces Message-ID: The colleague of mine complained that when he uses 4 Spaces each containing one latex source but pdf-preview sometimes opens in the different Space and he need to jump between two spaces while working on one project. I can recall by myself the similar experience albeit very rarely. Would be it possible for TeXShop to have a preference "Always open preview and log windows in the same Space" - or is it coltrolled only by OSX? Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From amunn at gmx.com Thu May 20 17:14:35 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:14:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 10:30 AM, George Gratzer wrote: > In a book, theorem like structures are numbered anew in each > chapter. How can I override this, and have them numbered from 1 to > infinity? > > GG \usepackage{chngcntr} \counterwithout{equation}{chapter} (for any counter you want to change, theorem, proof, etc.) Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From vivrii at gmail.com Thu May 20 16:45:59 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:45:59 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On May 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> >> Now... if I only had an iPad... >> > > You're not alone. Congress feels the same way... > > http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37518.html > > Themis POTUS does not approve iPods and iPads, Xboxes and Playstations - only some kind of berries are allowed :-) http://gizmodo.com/5534659/obama-ipods-ipads-xboxes-and-playstations-turn-information-into-distraction -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 20 17:15:28 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:15:28 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > The colleague of mine complained that when he uses 4 Spaces each > containing one latex source but pdf-preview sometimes opens in the > different Space and he need to jump between two spaces while working > on one project. I can recall by myself the similar experience albeit > very rarely. > > Would be it possible for TeXShop to have a preference "Always open > preview and log windows in the same Space" - or is it coltrolled only > by OSX? > > > Victor > Howdy, Yet Another Feature f OS X That I Don't Use... Don't know why but I just never felt the need. I guess I'm interested in knowing if opening TeXShop (or any other app) in more than one space actually produces separate instances or really a single shared instance of the application. What happens in other Spaces if you change a preference in one Space? I'd guess it is completely under the control of the OS; but I'm just guessing here and other, in the know, will answer better. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 20 17:32:49 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:32:49 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1B675457-3F2E-4490-A1C2-451209D97E2F@wideopenwest.com> On May 20, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >> On May 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> > >>> >>> Now... if I only had an iPad... >>> >> >> You're not alone. Congress feels the same way... >> >> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37518.html >> >> Themis > > > > POTUS does not approve iPods and iPads, Xboxes and Playstations - only > some kind of berries are allowed :-) > > > http://gizmodo.com/5534659/obama-ipods-ipads-xboxes-and-playstations-turn-information-into-distraction Howdy, He may have a good point. This goes back many years (it shows how old I am!) but I had a discussion with a colleague when pocket calculators first came out (LED display and all----I wished I could afford an HP-48 but my colleague and I put our money together and shared a TI SL-10) about their use in Elementary and High Schools. He claimed that it will make learning math much easier while I believed that it would be used as a substitute for knowledge and understanding and hamper the learning of math. I'll leave it up to you folks to decide for yourself which one of us was correct. I also remember the headaches I got when first surfing the WEB following interesting links until I had no idea how I got where I was and never did find the information that originally started the search. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From vivrii at gmail.com Thu May 20 18:03:43 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:03:43 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: <1B675457-3F2E-4490-A1C2-451209D97E2F@wideopenwest.com> References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> <1B675457-3F2E-4490-A1C2-451209D97E2F@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> POTUS does not approve iPods and iPads, Xboxes and Playstations - only >> some kind of berries are allowed :-) >> >> >> http://gizmodo.com/5534659/obama-ipods-ipads-xboxes-and-playstations-turn-information-into-distraction > > Howdy, > > He may have a good point. > > This goes back many years (it shows how old I am!) but I had a discussion with a colleague when pocket calculators first came out (LED display and all----I wished I could afford an HP-48 but my colleague and I put our money together and shared a TI SL-10) about their use in Elementary and High Schools. He claimed that it will make learning math much easier while I believed that it would be used as a substitute for knowledge and understanding and hamper the learning of math. I'll leave it up to you folks to decide for yourself which one of us was correct. > > I also remember the headaches I got when first surfing the WEB following interesting links until I had no idea how I got where I was and never did find the information that originally started the search. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) In many Canada schools calculators became a menace. However there is a legitimate use for them. There is legitimate use for iPads and iPods even apart of entertainment. On the other hand I believe that blackberry develops just one skill - to push small buttons with a maddening speed far exceeding ability to think. Victor > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > > > -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From gratzer at me.com Thu May 20 18:48:43 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:48:43 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Allan, I have never heard of this package. Here is a related question: I have my theorems numbered within chapters: \theoremstyle{plain} \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] but the result is not what I expected. Theorems are numbered 1 - 94 in Chapter I (which is fine), but they are displayed as Theorem 6.94 where 6 is the section number. I really would like Theorem I.94 where I is the chapter number (roman cap). And Theorem II.7 in Chapter II. How do I do this? GG On 2010-05-20, at 10:14 AM, Alan Munn wrote: > > On May 20, 2010, at 10:30 AM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> In a book, theorem like structures are numbered anew in each chapter. How can I override this, and have them numbered from 1 to infinity? >> >> GG > > > \usepackage{chngcntr} > \counterwithout{equation}{chapter} > > (for any counter you want to change, theorem, proof, etc.) > > Alan > > > -- > Alan Munn > amunn at gmx.com > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From amunn at gmx.com Thu May 20 19:22:24 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:22:24 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 12:48 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > Thank you Allan, I have never heard of this package. > > Here is a related question: > > I have my theorems numbered within chapters: > > \theoremstyle{plain} > \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] > > but the result is not what I expected. Theorems are numbered 1 - 94 > in Chapter I (which is fine), but they are displayed as > > Theorem 6.94 > > where 6 is the section number. > > I really would like > > Theorem I.94 > > where I is the chapter number (roman cap). > > And > > Theorem II.7 > > in Chapter II. > > How do I do this? > \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially numbered and not restarting each chapter.) Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 20 19:30:29 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:30:29 -0500 Subject: Good or Bad Tool? Was: [OS X TeX] LaTeX on the iPad using TeXShop Engines In-Reply-To: References: <1274281191693-5075337.post@n2.nabble.com> <8C484E3C-BA12-4219-9E5E-8FEA08B60DAD@wideopenwest.com> <8E273F7C-46A0-484E-9E21-A3BFFD001BB2@gmail.com> <1B675457-3F2E-4490-A1C2-451209D97E2F@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <7308C6B5-C40E-446A-9314-7415565105C5@wideopenwest.com> On May 20, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > > In many Canada schools calculators became a menace. However there is a > legitimate use for them. There is legitimate use for iPads and iPods > even apart of entertainment. > > On the other hand I believe that blackberry develops just one skill - > to push small buttons with a maddening speed far exceeding ability to > think. > > Victor > Howdy, No dispute there. The problem occurs when it isn't used as a tool to make work better but rather as a substitute for knowledge. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From gratzer at me.com Thu May 20 20:47:16 2010 From: gratzer at me.com (George Gratzer) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:47:16 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64406C12-840B-415E-9320-8661F3F0316D@me.com> Seemed logical, but... This command seems to have no effect at all. GG On 2010-05-20, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > > On May 20, 2010, at 12:48 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > >> Thank you Allan, I have never heard of this package. >> >> Here is a related question: >> >> I have my theorems numbered within chapters: >> >> \theoremstyle{plain} >> \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] >> >> but the result is not what I expected. Theorems are numbered 1 - 94 in Chapter I (which is fine), but they are displayed as >> >> Theorem 6.94 >> >> where 6 is the section number. >> >> I really would like >> >> Theorem I.94 >> >> where I is the chapter number (roman cap). >> >> And >> >> Theorem II.7 >> >> in Chapter II. >> >> How do I do this? >> > > \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} > > > Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially numbered and not restarting each chapter.) > > > Alan > > -- > Alan Munn > amunn at gmx.com > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Thu May 20 21:39:39 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 07:39:39 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> Go to System Preferences > Expose & Spaces . Add TeXShop to Application Assignments, which ever space is preferred. Alan On 21/05/2010, at 2:40 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > The colleague of mine complained that when he uses 4 Spaces each > containing one latex source but pdf-preview sometimes opens in the > different Space and he need to jump between two spaces while working > on one project. I can recall by myself the similar experience albeit > very rarely. > > Would be it possible for TeXShop to have a preference "Always open > preview and log windows in the same Space" - or is it coltrolled only > by OSX? > > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From amunn at gmx.com Thu May 20 21:52:15 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:52:15 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] numbering In-Reply-To: <64406C12-840B-415E-9320-8661F3F0316D@me.com> References: <64406C12-840B-415E-9320-8661F3F0316D@me.com> Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 2:47 PM, George Gratzer wrote: > On 2010-05-20, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: >> >> \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} >> >> >> Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this >> question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially >> numbered and not restarting each chapter.) > Seemed logical, but... > > This command seems to have no effect at all. > > GG > But then you need to show exactly what you're doing. The following works for me: \documentclass{book} \usepackage{amsmath,amsthm} \theoremstyle{plain} \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] \usepackage{chngcntr} \counterwithout{theorem}{chapter} \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} \begin{document} \chapter{A chap} \section{A section} \begin{theorem} \[ \pi \] \end{theorem} \chapter{Another chap} \begin{theorem} \[ \pi^{2} \] \end{theorem} \end{document} Alan > On 2010-05-20, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > >> >> On May 20, 2010, at 12:48 PM, George Gratzer wrote: >> >>> Thank you Allan, I have never heard of this package. >>> >>> Here is a related question: >>> >>> I have my theorems numbered within chapters: >>> >>> \theoremstyle{plain} >>> \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] >>> >>> but the result is not what I expected. Theorems are numbered 1 - >>> 94 in Chapter I (which is fine), but they are displayed as >>> >>> Theorem 6.94 >>> >>> where 6 is the section number. >>> >>> I really would like >>> >>> Theorem I.94 >>> >>> where I is the chapter number (roman cap). >>> >>> And >>> >>> Theorem II.7 >>> >>> in Chapter II. >>> >>> How do I do this? >>> >> >> \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} >> >> >> Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this >> question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially >> numbered and not restarting each chapter.) >> >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> Alan Munn >> amunn at gmx.com >> >> >> >> >> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >> > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From amunn at gmx.com Thu May 20 22:00:35 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:00:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> On May 20, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Go to System Preferences > Expose & Spaces . > > Add TeXShop to Application Assignments, which ever space is preferred. Unfortunately, that doesn't do what Victor asked for. The neat thing about spaces is that you can distribute windows from a single application among the spaces. The problem is that when you do this, the console/preview of a file in one space shows up in another space. It seems to me that this is potentially a TeXShop problem, in that it's not completely Spaces aware. Your solution just forces all TeXShop windows to be in a single space, which might be useful for some things, but sort of defeats the purpose of spaces itself. Alan > > Alan > > On 21/05/2010, at 2:40 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> The colleague of mine complained that when he uses 4 Spaces each >> containing one latex source but pdf-preview sometimes opens in the >> different Space and he need to jump between two spaces while working >> on one project. I can recall by myself the similar experience albeit >> very rarely. >> >> Would be it possible for TeXShop to have a preference "Always open >> preview and log windows in the same Space" - or is it coltrolled only >> by OSX? >> >> > > -- > Alan T Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Thu May 20 22:09:14 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:09:14 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> Message-ID: Ahh yes. Of course. There are relatively few applications that behave 'correctly' with spaces. Alan On 21/05/2010, at 8:00 AM, Alan Munn wrote: > > On May 20, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> Go to System Preferences > Expose & Spaces . >> >> Add TeXShop to Application Assignments, which ever space is >> preferred. > > Unfortunately, that doesn't do what Victor asked for. The neat > thing about spaces is that you can distribute windows from a single > application among the spaces. The problem is that when you do this, > the console/preview of a file in one space shows up in another > space. It seems to me that this is potentially a TeXShop problem, in > that it's not completely Spaces aware. > > Your solution just forces all TeXShop windows to be in a single > space, which might be useful for some things, but sort of defeats > the purpose of spaces itself. > > Alan > From vivrii at gmail.com Thu May 20 22:10:38 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:10:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> Message-ID: There is a really funny behavior: I can option-drag preview from space 1 to space 3 in 2*2 layout but not any other way Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From z_californianus-dated-1274818333.fa6433 at shiftingbalance.org Thu May 20 22:12:07 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274818333.fa6433 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 16:12:07 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> Message-ID: One oddity that I have come across is that if I am using an application in a space that's not the one that application is assigned to, and I want to open a document in that application, the open dialogue appears in the space the app is assigned to. It took me a long time to figure that out and drove me crazy for a while. On May 20, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Ahh yes. Of course. > > There are relatively few applications that behave 'correctly' with spaces. > > Alan > > On 21/05/2010, at 8:00 AM, Alan Munn wrote: > >> >> On May 20, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: >> >>> Go to System Preferences > Expose & Spaces . >>> >>> Add TeXShop to Application Assignments, which ever space is preferred. >> >> Unfortunately, that doesn't do what Victor asked for. The neat thing about spaces is that you can distribute windows from a single application among the spaces. The problem is that when you do this, the console/preview of a file in one space shows up in another space. It seems to me that this is potentially a TeXShop problem, in that it's not completely Spaces aware. >> >> Your solution just forces all TeXShop windows to be in a single space, which might be useful for some things, but sort of defeats the purpose of spaces itself. >> >> Alan >> > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1799 bytes Desc: not available URL: From justin at mac.com Thu May 20 21:18:42 2010 From: justin at mac.com (Justin C. Walker) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:18:42 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <756E6FEC-F916-4BE3-9AA0-5561047A9A44@mac.com> On May 20, 2010, at 08:15 , Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 20, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: [snip] >> Would be it possible for TeXShop to have a preference "Always open >> preview and log windows in the same Space" - or is it coltrolled only >> by OSX? [snip] > I guess I'm interested in knowing if opening TeXShop (or any other > app) in more than one space actually produces separate instances or > really a single shared instance of the application. What happens in > other Spaces if you change a preference in one Space? Spaces is just a display mechanism. Only one instance of a GUI app runs at a time. > I'd guess it is completely under the control of the OS; but I'm just > guessing here and other, in the know, will answer better. I can't tell for sure where control lies for this (and I don't know the APIs at all). However, if you drag all the windows associated with a .tex file to a different Space, the preview and log windows will remain where the .tex window is. If you close one, and it comes to the fore, the view snaps back to TeXShop's Space. HTH Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Director Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's income ----------- -- They said it couldn't be done, but sometimes, it doesn't work out that way. - Casey Stengel -- From vivrii at gmail.com Thu May 20 21:52:42 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:52:42 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Go to System Preferences > Expose & Spaces . > > Add TeXShop to Application Assignments, which ever space is preferred. > The problem is that my colleague wants to work on four different TS projects, each on its space, and each preview window occupying the same space as the source window. Victor > > > -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Thu May 20 22:58:27 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 08:58:27 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> Message-ID: On 21/05/2010, at 8:12 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > One oddity that I have come across is that if I am using an > application in a space that's not the one that application is > assigned to, and I want to open a document in that application, the > open dialogue appears in the space the app is assigned to. It took > me a long time to figure that out and drove me crazy for a while. > Two things that annoys me the most: 1. When I Cmd-Tab between applications, often the application I go to is on another space but the present space doesn't shift to the new space where the application is open. 2. Often when the application is brought to the front it is not the top most open file that is displayed on the screen but one or two down the list. MS Office and Groupwise are perhaps the worst culprits in these instances. Alan From z_californianus-dated-1274825316.f25a52 at shiftingbalance.org Fri May 21 00:08:32 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274825316.f25a52 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 18:08:32 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> Message-ID: <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> While we are on this topic, I wanted to report that I have had some good experiences with Hyperspaces (non-free). It gives you a variety of ways to switch spaces and allows you to name the spaces and customize them in other ways. Still, the underlying spaces architecture remains, so while it does make some things easier, there are still annoyances and confusion. I don't remember having any of these problems on *nix multiple desktop interfaces. Maybe there you had distinct instances of each application? On May 20, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 21/05/2010, at 8:12 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> One oddity that I have come across is that if I am using an application in a space that's not the one that application is assigned to, and I want to open a document in that application, the open dialogue appears in the space the app is assigned to. It took me a long time to figure that out and drove me crazy for a while. >> > > Two things that annoys me the most: > 1. When I Cmd-Tab between applications, often the application I go to is on another space but the present space doesn't shift to the new space where the application is open. > 2. Often when the application is brought to the front it is not the top most open file that is displayed on the screen but one or two down the list. > > MS Office and Groupwise are perhaps the worst culprits in these instances. > > Alan > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1799 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 21 00:28:53 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:28:53 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: On 21/05/2010, at 10:08 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > I don't remember having any of these problems on *nix multiple > desktop interfaces. Maybe there you had distinct instances of each > application? > > Nor I. In fact with most windowing interfaces I recall you could investigate each window space and see what windows were open on it and go directly to them. Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From justin at mac.com Fri May 21 00:46:49 2010 From: justin at mac.com (Justin C. Walker) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:46:49 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: <85D86019-4F1B-44DA-BAAC-990896479FAB@mac.com> On May 20, 2010, at 15:28 , Alan T Litchfield wrote: > > On 21/05/2010, at 10:08 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> I don't remember having any of these problems on *nix multiple >> desktop interfaces. Maybe there you had distinct instances of each >> application? >> >> > > > Nor I. In fact with most windowing interfaces I recall you could > investigate each window space and see what windows were open on it > and go directly to them. Do you mean something like "F8" (or maybe "Fun-F8")? Justin -- Justin C. Walker Curmudgeon-at-large -- Network, n., Difference between work charged for and work done From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 21 02:01:21 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:01:21 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <85D86019-4F1B-44DA-BAAC-990896479FAB@mac.com> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> <85D86019-4F1B-44DA-BAAC-990896479FAB@mac.com> Message-ID: On 21/05/2010, at 10:46 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: > > On May 20, 2010, at 15:28 , Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> >> On 21/05/2010, at 10:08 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >>> I don't remember having any of these problems on *nix multiple >>> desktop interfaces. Maybe there you had distinct instances of each >>> application? >>> >>> >> >> >> Nor I. In fact with most windowing interfaces I recall you could >> investigate each window space and see what windows were open on it >> and go directly to them. > > Do you mean something like "F8" (or maybe "Fun-F8")? > To be honest the window managers were rather inconsistent and did it differently. For example Window Maker allowed a middle mouse click (to open the contextual menu) or a programmable key sequence. Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From agram.mello at gmail.com Thu May 20 22:01:32 2010 From: agram.mello at gmail.com (Margarida Mello) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 17:01:32 -0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> Message-ID: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> Dear all, I am reviving this link (started in October 2009) in the hopes that the situation is different now. Can one set up TeXShop to use Adobe's Acrobat viewer? The reason I'm interested is that the preview is giving me incorrect visualizations in a class of pictures I'm producing. For instance, the code \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} \begin{document} \parindent 0pt \begin{tikzpicture} \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} should (and does) produce a circle centered in (but not touching the sides of) a square. The preview in TeXShop (and in Apple's native application, which is no surprise, given that, as Herb explained in this list, it uses the same PDFkit framework) shows a circle chopped off at the top. Best regards, Margarida -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From z_californianus-dated-1274833564.55e251 at shiftingbalance.org Fri May 21 02:26:02 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274833564.55e251 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 20:26:02 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop and Spaces In-Reply-To: <85D86019-4F1B-44DA-BAAC-990896479FAB@mac.com> References: <91C0549E-9A2E-4A38-BB04-D8871EE0B3E1@alphabyte.co.nz> <7DDEDC1D-AEE0-469D-BFC6-0B8AAE6BFF83@gmx.com> <7B9B6791-E4B7-45B5-BE50-06321BD528DA@shiftingbalance.org> <85D86019-4F1B-44DA-BAAC-990896479FAB@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: >> >> On 21/05/2010, at 10:08 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >>> I don't remember having any of these problems on *nix multiple desktop interfaces. Maybe there you had distinct instances of each application? >>> >>> > Do you mean something like "F8" (or maybe "Fun-F8")? > With fluxbox, I seem to remember being able to use entirely independent instances of the same application. I had one desktop for system administration stuff, with a bunch of terminal windows; another for starting TeX processes, with other terminal windows. You could go right to the space or to a particular instance of an application. F8 shows you all the spaces; but if I assign Skim to space #2, and then I drag a Skim window to space #5, the menu bar for Skim is still in space #2, and some things (I can't figure out which) will happen in 5, and some in 2. A single application crosses spaces... I segregate PDF's generated by TeX runs from those for articles I am reading by having TeXShop in space #1, for TeX-created PDF's, and Skim in #2 for all the others. (I have TeXShop set to use another editor, which I also have in space 1). I'd like to be able to just have Skim going, and have independent windows in different spaces. In Fluxbox there was an F8-like view. You could see little miniature desktops with the applications windows in there. Usually you'd use a pull-down menu by right clicking, though, and you'd go right to the app you want on the desktop you want. ------------------ Adam M. 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I really would like Theorem I.94 where I is the chapter number (roman cap). And Theorem II.7 in Chapter II. How do I do this? GG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2770 bytes Desc: not available URL: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 21 03:43:51 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 20:43:51 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 20, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Margarida Mello wrote: > Dear all, > > I am reviving this link (started in October 2009) in the hopes that the situation is different now. Can one set up TeXShop to use Adobe's Acrobat viewer? The reason I'm interested is that the preview is giving me incorrect visualizations in a class of pictures I'm producing. For instance, the code > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{tikz} > \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} > > \begin{document} > > \parindent 0pt > > \begin{tikzpicture} > \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); > \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; > \end{tikzpicture} > > \end{document} > > should (and does) produce a circle centered in (but not touching the sides of) a square. The preview in TeXShop (and in Apple's native application, which is no surprise, given that, as Herb explained in this list, it uses the same PDFkit framework) shows a circle chopped off at the top. > > Best regards, > > Margarida- Howdy, While it looks like it's chopped off at the top in TeXShop/Preview at first glance when I use the magnifying glass on the circle I see that it, in fact, has equal spacing to the document edge in TeXShop's preview. I don't know why the top (and right side) appear cut off in Apple's Preview. As far as I know TeXshop can be used with external editors but not with with external viewers. The easiest thing to do would be to write an Applescript Macro that would open the generated pdf file in Adobe Acrobat or Reader. You can then assign a keyboard shortcut to the macro to make it easy to execute. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From dewatson at me.com Fri May 21 05:05:07 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:05:07 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> On May 20, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Margarida Mello wrote: > Dear all, > > I am reviving this link (started in October 2009) in the hopes that the situation is different now. Can one set up TeXShop to use Adobe's Acrobat viewer? The reason I'm interested is that the preview is giving me incorrect visualizations in a class of pictures I'm producing. For instance, the code > What purpose will these images serve? In other words, what is it that you intend to do with these images? Maybe you just need a new process, and not a new pdf viewer. > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{tikz} > \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} > > \begin{document} > > \parindent 0pt > > \begin{tikzpicture} > \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); > \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; > \end{tikzpicture} > > \end{document} > > should (and does) produce a circle centered in (but not touching the sides of) a square. The preview in TeXShop (and in Apple's native application, which is no surprise, given that, as Herb explained in this list, it uses the same PDFkit framework) shows a circle chopped off at the top. > > Best regards, > > Margarida > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From aguilera at santafe-conicet.gov.ar Fri May 21 14:54:41 2010 From: aguilera at santafe-conicet.gov.ar (Nestor Aguilera) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:54:41 -0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 20 May 2010, at 17:01, Margarida Mello wrote: > Dear all, > > I am reviving this link (started in October 2009) in the hopes that the situation is different now. Can one set up TeXShop to use Adobe's Acrobat viewer? The reason I'm interested is that the preview is giving me incorrect visualizations in a class of pictures I'm producing. For instance, the code > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{tikz} > \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} > > \begin{document} > > \parindent 0pt > > \begin{tikzpicture} > \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); > \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; > \end{tikzpicture} > > \end{document} > > should (and does) produce a circle centered in (but not touching the sides of) a square. The preview in TeXShop (and in Apple's native application, which is no surprise, given that, as Herb explained in this list, it uses the same PDFkit framework) shows a circle chopped off at the top. - As far as I know, Adobe Reader does not auto reload (so if you re-typeset you have to manually open the new pdf), and you lose synchronization (synctex/pdfsync): please correct me if I am wrong. - TeXworks (included with MacTeX) has an integrated pdf viewer which seems to render the figure correctly, so you might want to use it for this particular project. Best regards, Nestor From z_californianus-dated-1274883341.623f3b at shiftingbalance.org Fri May 21 16:15:38 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274883341.623f3b at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:15:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question Message-ID: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> I can't get tex4ht to succeed on the command line; SimpleTex4ht works, though. Here is the file: > \documentclass{article} > \begin{document} > Hi! Joy to the World! > \end{document} Not surprisingly, the file compiles correctly (using LaTeX, not pdfLaTeX). But: > zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex > ---------------------------- > tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) > tex4ht joy.tex > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' > [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex > zsh-% > Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. Thanks for considering my question! Adam ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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GG On 2010-05-20, at 2:52 PM, Alan Munn wrote: > On May 20, 2010, at 2:47 PM, George Gratzer wrote: >> On 2010-05-20, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: >>> >>> \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} >>> >>> >>> Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially numbered and not restarting each chapter.) > >> Seemed logical, but... >> >> This command seems to have no effect at all. >> >> GG >> > > But then you need to show exactly what you're doing. The following works for me: > > \documentclass{book} > \usepackage{amsmath,amsthm} > \theoremstyle{plain} > \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] > \usepackage{chngcntr} > \counterwithout{theorem}{chapter} > \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} > > \begin{document} > \chapter{A chap} > \section{A section} > > \begin{theorem} > \[ \pi > \] > \end{theorem} > > \chapter{Another chap} > \begin{theorem} > \[ > \pi^{2} > \] > \end{theorem} > \end{document} > > Alan > >> On 2010-05-20, at 12:22 PM, Alan Munn wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 20, 2010, at 12:48 PM, George Gratzer wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Allan, I have never heard of this package. >>>> >>>> Here is a related question: >>>> >>>> I have my theorems numbered within chapters: >>>> >>>> \theoremstyle{plain} >>>> \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter] >>>> >>>> but the result is not what I expected. Theorems are numbered 1 - 94 in Chapter I (which is fine), but they are displayed as >>>> >>>> Theorem 6.94 >>>> >>>> where 6 is the section number. >>>> >>>> I really would like >>>> >>>> Theorem I.94 >>>> >>>> where I is the chapter number (roman cap). >>>> >>>> And >>>> >>>> Theorem II.7 >>>> >>>> in Chapter II. >>>> >>>> How do I do this? >>>> >>> >>> \renewcommand{\thetheorem}{\Roman{chapter}.\arabic{theorem}} >>> >>> >>> Make sure it's after the \counterwithout command. (Assuming this question follows up on your wanting all the theorems sequentially numbered and not restarting each chapter.) >>> >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> -- >>> Alan Munn >>> amunn at gmx.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >>> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >>> >> >> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >> > > -- > Alan Munn > amunn at gmx.com > > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From dewatson at me.com Fri May 21 16:50:49 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:50:49 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: On May 21, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > I can't get tex4ht to succeed on the command line; SimpleTex4ht works, though. > > Here is the file: > >> \documentclass{article} >> \begin{document} >> Hi! Joy to the World! >> \end{document} > > Not surprisingly, the file compiles correctly (using LaTeX, not pdfLaTeX). But: > >> zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex >> ---------------------------- >> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >> tex4ht joy.tex >> --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' >> [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex >> zsh-% >> > > Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. > Use: htlatex joy.tex which calls a script that runs latex 3 times and then tex4ht, and finally t4ht. > I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. > > Thanks for considering my question! > > Adam > ------------------ > Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS > -- > z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org > http://www.shiftingbalance.org > http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance > -- > http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 > -- > (914) 637-2717 (msg) > -- > Dept of Philosophy > Iona College > 715 North Avenue > New Rochelle NY 10801 > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From z_californianus-dated-1274894909.9877c2 at shiftingbalance.org Fri May 21 19:28:20 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274894909.9877c2 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:28:20 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: <6355FE1F-AF40-472E-A40A-F0245402FF1E@shiftingbalance.org> On May 21, 2010, at 10:50 AM, David Watson wrote: > Use: > htlatex joy.tex > which calls a script that runs latex 3 times and then tex4ht, and finally t4ht. Sensible advice---but this fails too. > \documentclass{article} > \begin{document} > hi! > \end{document} > zsh-% htlatex file.tex > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) > l.1437 --- TeX4ht warning --- No file file.xref --- > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > No file file.aux. > [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9484 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) (./file.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./file.aux) [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9484 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) (./file.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./file.aux) [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9484 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > ---------------------------- > tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) > tex4ht -f/file.tex > -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/ > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' > /usr/texbin/htlatex: line 5: 7054 Bus error tex4ht -f/$1 -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/$3 > ---------------------------- > t4ht.c (2007-01-05-03:17 kpathsea) > t4ht -f/file.tex > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `file.lg' > ------------------ Adam M. 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I suppose to show a problem with Apple viewer ! > In other words, what is it that you intend to do with these images? > Maybe you just need a new process, and not a new pdf viewer. ??? if the pdf viewer has a bug, why try a new process ? And in this case, the process is simple and clear. Adobe reader shows a good result but with Texshop or Skim the result is ugly ! it's difficult to find where is the problem. Best Regards Alain Matthes From dwarnold45 at suddenlink.net Fri May 21 22:16:26 2010 From: dwarnold45 at suddenlink.net (David Arnold) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:16:26 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> Message-ID: <824A7BA3-84C1-4F8E-90FE-61DDD886B572@suddenlink.net> Alain, Timothy Van Zandt sent the following to me some time back. I believe it works: Hello, This is coming a bit late, and I'm not sure whether to reply to this thread or the subsequent "TeXShop Engine" thread. But anyway, here is what I have been doing for a while. As noted by others, Distiller doesn't work directly from the command line. But it can be invoked by an applescript, and then you can run the applescript from the command line. What I am going to describe is for Acrobat 8; I don't have Acrobat 9 so I can't say if it still works the same way. I have an applescript called "acrodist.scpt" as follows: ------------------------------------------ on run argv with timeout of (8 * 60) seconds tell application "Acrobat Distiller" Distill sourcePath item 1 of argv end tell end timeout end run ------------------------------------------- Then I have an executable shell script called "acrodist" ------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh osascript ~/bin/acrodist.scpt $1 ------------------------------------------- Then, in the TeXShop preferences, under "Misc", I define the following personal script (all on one line, under "Latex Program"): --------------------------------------------------------------- simpdftex latex --maxpfb --extradvipsopts "-j0" --distiller (/tvz/bin/acrodist -------------------------------------------------------------- (To be honest, I don't remember why I included the "-j0" option.) And under the Typesetting tab, I set the Default Script to "Personal Script". Regards, tim On 20/01/2010 01:18, "David Arnold" wrote: > All, > > Does anyone know how to call Acrobat Distiller from a terminal window (i.e. > from the command line or a script) on the Mac? > > And if so, has anyone set up an engine with Texshop to call acrobat distiller? > > David. > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > On May 21, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Alain Matthes wrote: > > Le 21 mai 2010 ? 05:05, David Watson a ?crit : > >> On May 20, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Margarida Mello wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I am reviving this link (started in October 2009) in the hopes that the situation is different now. Can one set up TeXShop to use Adobe's Acrobat viewer? The reason I'm interested is that the preview is giving me incorrect visualizations in a class of pictures I'm producing. 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Goldstein) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 18:17:44 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> Message-ID: > > Le 21 mai 2010 ? 05:05, David Watson a ?crit : > > > Adobe reader shows a good result but with Texshop > or Skim the result is ugly ! it's difficult to find > where is the problem. > > Preview, TeXShop, and Skim all use Apple's PDFKit, which has some bugs in it; Adobe uses its own PDF rendering code. If you get the same results in all three of the PDFKit viewers but not in Adobe's, chances are that the the problem is with the viewers, not your PDF's. ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For instance, the code >>> >> >> What purpose will these images serve? > > I suppose to show a problem with Apple viewer ! > >> In other words, what is it that you intend to do with these images? >> Maybe you just need a new process, and not a new pdf viewer. > > ??? if the pdf viewer has a bug, why try a new process ? > And in this case, the process is simple and clear. If the OP wants to use Acrobat, that is up to him, and I am not against it, nor am I trying to push Preview on him. What I can't understand is <> it's so important that it looks perfect in Preview, if he ever intends to print this out. If he is doing something else with these, say... making pdfs to include into another document, then I still fail to see why it matters that a little bit of the top is clipped. If you want to be a jerk about it; then be a jerk, I'll stop contributing to OS X TeX, like so many others who found their support unwelcome. > > Adobe reader shows a good result but with Texshop > or Skim the result is ugly ! it's difficult to find > where is the problem. > > > Best Regards > > Alain Matthes > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sat May 22 00:21:45 2010 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:21:45 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] bug or feature in TeXShop 2.33 In-Reply-To: <4D361FEB-BB8D-443B-A25A-5AC5B99E99DD@me.com> References: <4D361FEB-BB8D-443B-A25A-5AC5B99E99DD@me.com> Message-ID: This problem occurs only in the German localization. I'll look into it. Dick Koch On May 21, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Friedrich Vosberg wrote: > Morning. > > Why does TeXShop start to count the lines at line number *2* (see > attached picture)? From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 22 01:03:10 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:03:10 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> Message-ID: On May 21, 2010, at 6:29 PM, David Watson wrote: > If you want to be a jerk about it; then be a jerk, I'll stop > contributing to OS X TeX, like so many others who found their > support unwelcome. I haven't followed the thread at all but this jumped at me. Does the "offense" really warrant your leaving the list? As you pointed out, you would be punishing all of us which might be a bit of an overkill. May I very respectfully request that you just ignore whatever annoyed you and keep contributing? I would really miss your presence on the list. --schremmer From z_californianus-dated-1274916587.c998fa at shiftingbalance.org Sat May 22 01:29:43 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274916587.c998fa at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:29:43 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> Message-ID: <6AAA3191-B4B1-48BD-B6E2-EAD677010CBC@shiftingbalance.org> On May 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 21, 2010, at 6:29 PM, David Watson wrote: > >> If you want to be a jerk about it; then be a jerk, I'll stop contributing to OS X TeX, like so many others who found their support unwelcome. > > I haven't followed the thread at all but this jumped at me. Does the "offense" really warrant your leaving the list? As you pointed out, you would be punishing all of us which might be a bit of an overkill. May I very respectfully request that you just ignore whatever annoyed you and keep contributing? > > I would really miss your presence on the list. I agree with Schremmer. My impression was that the OP just wanted to stick with Acrobat, for whatever reason, and that his response struck the wrong tone and wasn't meant to be a argumentative. Why the person had to respond so forcefully when you asked a second time is certainly curious. FWIW, it really does seem that engineering TeXShop to work with the Adobe viewer is probably more trouble than it's worth, unless, say, the document is going to be used by people restricted to Preview, TeXShop, and Skim. Adam ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But: >> >>> zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex >>> ---------------------------- >>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>> tex4ht joy.tex >>> --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' >>> [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex >>> zsh-% >>> >> >> Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. >> > > Use: > htlatex joy.tex > which calls a script that runs latex 3 times and then tex4ht, and finally t4ht. > >> I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. >> >> Thanks for considering my question! >> >> Adam >> ------------------ >> Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS >> -- >> z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org >> http://www.shiftingbalance.org >> http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance >> -- >> http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 >> -- >> (914) 637-2717 (msg) >> -- >> Dept of Philosophy >> Iona College >> 715 North Avenue >> New Rochelle NY 10801 >> >> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >> > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1799 bytes Desc: not available URL: From loki at uchicago.edu Sat May 22 01:08:29 2010 From: loki at uchicago.edu (David Derbes) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 18:08:29 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] STIX Project Message-ID: <4DE452B6-3422-4D45-BC7E-CA4729370984@uchicago.edu> These folks have been working on a large, free set of technical fonts (including LaTeX support) for nearly a decade. They are supposed to release version 1 on Monday. Their track record for meeting deadlines is not all that good, but we all know software is very difficult. In any case, someone here probably knows a great deal more. This might be very good news Real Soon Now. http://www.stixfonts.org/ David Derbes U of Chicago Laboratory Schools From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 22 02:41:38 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:41:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Watson wrote: > If the OP wants to use Acrobat, that is up to him, and I am not against it, nor am I trying to push Preview on him. I am not sure if I can recall who this mysterious OP is > What I can't understand is <> it's so important that it looks perfect in Preview, if he ever intends to print this out. Definitely pdf looks as it supposed to not only in AR but in Unix evince and kpdf, so the problem is definitely not with pdf but with Apple pdf rendering engine. What is more: this file looks perfectly in "Apple quick view" (get info). However, running pdfcrop example.pdf results in example-crop.pdf which looks perfect also in Preview and Co which may suggest that something is not completely right with pdf. So I will post a relevant part of discussion to pdftex mailing list However, let us remember that AR (and AA) is the only full-featured pdf viewer. Generally little imperfection in viewing while preparing document is not a problem. To be honest I see no reason to be upset and not to use TeXShop because of this > > If you want to be a jerk about it; then be a jerk, I'll stop contributing to OS X TeX, like so many others who found their support unwelcome. > I see very little reason for such strong reaction. Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 22 02:48:48 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 20:48:48 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> Message-ID: The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} \begin{document} \parindent 0pt \begin{tikzpicture} \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} It results in pdf file which looks perfect in AR, evince, kpdf, Apple "Get Info" but not in Apple Preview and other applications using the same engine: it looks like pdf was slightly cropped from the top and a tiny margin was added on the bottom. Further, running pdfcrop generates pdf which looks perfect in Apple Preview and Co as well Would be it possible to explain the reason of such unusual behavior? Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From dewatson at me.com Sat May 22 05:14:02 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 22:14:02 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> Message-ID: <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> On May 21, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Watson wrote: > >> If the OP wants to use Acrobat, that is up to him, and I am not against it, nor am I trying to push Preview on him. > > I am not sure if I can recall who this mysterious OP is > >> What I can't understand is <> it's so important that it looks perfect in Preview, if he ever intends to print this out. > > Definitely pdf looks as it supposed to not only in AR but in Unix > evince and kpdf, so the problem is definitely not with pdf but with > Apple pdf rendering engine. What is more: this file looks perfectly in > "Apple quick view" (get info). However, running pdfcrop example.pdf > results in example-crop.pdf which looks perfect also in Preview and Co > which may suggest that something is not completely right with pdf. So > I will post a relevant part of discussion to pdftex mailing list > > However, let us remember that AR (and AA) is the only full-featured > pdf viewer. Generally little imperfection in viewing while preparing > document is not a problem. To be honest I see no reason to be upset > and not to use TeXShop because of this > > >> >> If you want to be a jerk about it; then be a jerk, I'll stop contributing to OS X TeX, like so many others who found their support unwelcome. >> > > I see very little reason for such strong reaction. > I was trying to understand more about what the OP <> to accomplish, because an imperfection in Preview is meaningless if the pdf is otherwise good. Moreover, your investigation into the quick view and pdfcrop validate my original suggestion that perhaps the OP could change the <> and achieve what he desired (i.e. see the pdf without the buggy crop). I thought what I said was simple and clear enough, but evidently, it requires repeating ad nauseum. And the OP has yet to comment on whether he is merely pointing out a bug in Preview, in which case the OP would be better served to report a bug at radar.apple.com, or whether a workaround was needed. I stand by my original thoughts even more strongly, now. The OP could change the process of creating the pdf by including a new engine in TeXShop, or on the command line for that matter, which calls pdfcrop on the final pdf file. > Victor > -- From dewatson at me.com Sat May 22 05:28:29 2010 From: dewatson at me.com (David Watson) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 22:28:29 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <527D0BB2-1059-4831-9E7C-F2810469BF1E@shiftingbalance.org> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <527D0BB2-1059-4831-9E7C-F2810469BF1E@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: On May 21, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > I just wanted to say, thanks for trying to help out with this! > > Adam > Here is where my files reside, perhaps you could check to see that you have them in the right place, and then maybe we can talk about the environment: /usr/local/texlive//2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env /usr/local/texlive//2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/win32/tex4ht.env > On May 21, 2010, at 10:50 AM, David Watson wrote: > >> On May 21, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >>> I can't get tex4ht to succeed on the command line; SimpleTex4ht works, though. >>> >>> Here is the file: >>> >>>> \documentclass{article} >>>> \begin{document} >>>> Hi! Joy to the World! >>>> \end{document} >>> >>> Not surprisingly, the file compiles correctly (using LaTeX, not pdfLaTeX). But: >>> >>>> zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex >>>> ---------------------------- >>>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>>> tex4ht joy.tex >>>> --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' >>>> [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex >>>> zsh-% >>>> >>> >>> Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. >>> >> >> Use: >> htlatex joy.tex >> which calls a script that runs latex 3 times and then tex4ht, and finally t4ht. >> >>> I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. >>> >>> Thanks for considering my question! >>> >>> Adam >>> ------------------ >>> Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS >>> -- >>> z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org >>> http://www.shiftingbalance.org >>> http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance >>> -- >>> http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 >>> -- >>> (914) 637-2717 (msg) >>> -- >>> Dept of Philosophy >>> Iona College >>> 715 North Avenue >>> New Rochelle NY 10801 >>> >>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >>> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >>> >> >> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ >> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ >> List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex >> > > > ------------------ > Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS > -- > z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org > http://www.shiftingbalance.org > http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance > -- > http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 > -- > (914) 637-2717 (msg) > -- > Dept of Philosophy > Iona College > 715 North Avenue > New Rochelle NY 10801 > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 22 08:35:48 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 02:35:48 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:14 PM, David Watson wrote: >> >> I am not sure if I can recall who this mysterious OP is Apart of mysterious behaviour of pdf there is also some mysterious person OP as nobody with the matching name came out in this thread or even original one Puzzled, Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From talmanl at gmail.com Sat May 22 08:39:40 2010 From: talmanl at gmail.com (Louis Talman) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:39:40 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> Message-ID: On May 22, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > Apart of mysterious behaviour of pdf there is also some mysterious > person OP as nobody with the matching name came out in this thread or > even original one Original Poster? --Lou Talman Department of Mathematical & Computer Sciences Metropolitan State College of Denver From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 22 09:30:15 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> References: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1274513415734-5087480.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, The following TeXShop engine will generate a figure that works well in TeXShop. It does so by calling pdfcrop at the end. To use it save it in a text file with the suffix ".engine", make it executable and place it in the Engines folder of TeXShop. Ram?n P.S.: Just for fun, I'll try to write an engine that calls Acrobat. If I succeed I'll post it here :) ----------------------code below this line--------------- #!/bin/bash PATH="$PATH:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/bin" location=$(dirname "$1") basefname="${location}/`basename "$1" .tex`" latex "$1" dvips -q "${basefname}.dvi" rm "${basefname}.dvi" ps2pdf "${basefname}.ps" rm "${basefname}.ps" pdfcrop "${basefname}.pdf" mv "${basefname}-crop.pdf" "${basefname}.pdf" -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/texshop-and-preview-tp5082103p5087480.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rowenrye at gmail.com Sat May 22 09:06:15 2010 From: rowenrye at gmail.com (Rob Rye) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:06:15 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> Message-ID: I believe OP stands for something like "original poster" as in the person who originated the thread...(just a guess)... On May 21, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:14 PM, David Watson wrote: > >>> >>> I am not sure if I can recall who this mysterious OP is > > > Apart of mysterious behaviour of pdf there is also some mysterious > person OP as nobody with the matching name came out in this thread or > even original one > > > Puzzled, > Victor > > > > -- > ======================== > Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto > http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 22 13:00:58 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 04:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Engine to use Acrobat as previewer Message-ID: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Just to see if it could be done, I wrote a TeXShop engine that uses Acrobat as a previewer. (It has a neat trick, that might be useful, i.e., how to close a TeXShop preview window at the end of the execution of an engine). Save it in, say, "~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/Acrobat-Preview.engine" and make it executable. To us it place the line "% !TEX TS-program = Acrobat-Preview" (no quotes, of course) at the beginning of your LaTeX file (first 20 lines). Then Typeset. It will typeset, show the result in Acrobat (closing any previous preview) and then close in the background the preview that TeXShop created. Now, obviously it does not do SyncTeX, but it does remember the page. I only tested it with Acrobat Pro (version 9.0.0). If you want to test it with Acrobat Reader you have to change the line tell application "Adobe Acrobat Pro" to reflect that. Enjoy! Ram?n --------------------------code starts below this line------------------------------- #!/bin/bash PATH="$PATH:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/bin" name=$(basename "$1" .tex) basefname="`pwd`/${name}" # Change this line to whatever typesetting command you like that produces PDFs. pdflatex --file-line-error --shell-escape --synctex=1 "$1" # comment the line above and uncomment the one below if you wish to use an # installed TeXShop engine. Here we use pdflatexmk as an example. ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" # Close any preview taht already exists (if any) and ope the new one. /usr/bin/osascript < References: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1274526424220-5087841.post@n2.nabble.com> Oops! In my previous post I made a little mistake. The line ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" should be #~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" That is it should be commented. Sorry, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/TeXShop-Engine-to-use-Acrobat-as-previewer-tp5087826p5087841.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 22 13:19:30 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 07:19:30 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Engine to use Acrobat as previewer In-Reply-To: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: 2010/5/22 Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno : > > Aloha, > > Just to see if it could be done, I wrote a TeXShop engine that uses Acrobat > as a previewer. > Thanks! It could be useful for doing things where only AR or AA do proper jobs (like inserting movies, 3D, animations or Javascript. D.P.Story did much more than this - to use AA as postprocessor - but I am not aware of any successful attempts to make it work on Mac (Unix out of luck due to lack of AA) Victor ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Sat May 22 14:14:30 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (themis) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 08:14:30 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] mathpro blues Message-ID: I installed mactex on a new computer, copied ~/libraytexmf from the old computer to the new, run sudo updmap-sys --disable belleek.map sudo updmap-sys --enable Map mtpro2.map but when I try to use my mtpro2 fonts I get kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+57/600 --dpi 657 mt2syt mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for mt2syt. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ) !pdfTeX error: /usr/texbin/pdflatex (file mt2syt): Font mt2syt at 657 not found\\ What am I missing? Thanks Themis From z_californianus-dated-1274965281.057ca4 at shiftingbalance.org Sat May 22 15:00:57 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1274965281.057ca4 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:00:57 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> Message-ID: <866D3E0B-6EDF-4132-B414-8EDA8DA9F779@shiftingbalance.org> On May 22, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Louis Talman wrote: > > On May 22, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> Apart of mysterious behaviour of pdf there is also some mysterious >> person OP as nobody with the matching name came out in this thread or >> even original one > > > Original Poster? > > That's what I meant when I used "OP"---the person who started the thread. > From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 22 16:39:16 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 16:39:16 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] mathpro blues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <935807BF-BDB2-41C5-8EDC-17374DDA8BB3@Web.DE> Am 22.05.2010 um 14:14 schrieb themis: > What am I missing? You're not missing anything, you just have something too much! At least I think so. You might have a MAP file in the ~/.texlive2009 tree. You could check with: kpsewhich pdftex.map or have a closer look in to the last LOG file. A MAP file in the ~/.texlive2009 tree would come from invoking updmap. 'sudo updmap- sys ...' creates files in /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/ */updmap which come in search precedence after your private files. Deletion (or renaming) of the whole ~/.texlive2009 tree is one solution. -- Greetings Pete Never be led astray onto the path of virtue From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 22 23:01:38 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Engine to use Acrobat as previewer In-Reply-To: <1274526424220-5087841.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274526424220-5087841.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1274562098935-5089223.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Again, I added some functionality to the engine I posted yesterday: assuming that you have, like me, chosen in the preferences to have "[a]ll windows start at fixed position" then the modifications to the engine will place the preview in Acrobat where the preview would be in TeXShop. ----------------------------------code begins below this line-------------------------------------------- #!/bin/bash PATH="$PATH:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/bin" name=$(basename "$1" .tex) basefname="`pwd`/${name}" # Change this line to whatever typesetting command you like that produces PDFs. # pdflatex --file-line-error --shell-escape --synctex=1 "$1" # comment the line above and uncomment the one below if you wish to use an # installed TeXShop engine. Here we use pdflatexmk as an example. ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" # Get TeXShop's PDF window position window=`defaults read TeXShop "NSWindow Frame PdfKitWindow"` # replace every space run by a single space window=`echo $window | sed 's/ +/ /g'` x=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 1` y=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 2` w=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 3` h=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 4` # Close any preview that already exists (if any) and open the new one. /usr/bin/osascript < References: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274526424220-5087841.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274562098935-5089223.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1274578775664-5089719.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Alas the engine I posted only works fully for Adobe Acrobat Pro and not Adobe Reader, since although they have the same applescript dictionary Acrobat Reader does not have many of the commands implemented. Not all is lost as one can implement most of the functionality using System Events, but the preview will always open on page 1. Moreover, the Acrobat engine will set the preview position to the TeXShop default on its first run, but once there is a preview open it will position subsequent previews in the place the user chooses (until she closes it). The Reader engine always opens the preview in the same place, as defined by TeXShop. Finally, you must open System Preferences and check Enable Access for Assistive Devices in the Universal Access preference pane, for this engine to work. Enjoy! (but not as much) Ram?n ---------------------------code starts after this line-------------------------- #!/bin/bash PATH="$PATH:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/bin" name=$(basename "$1" .tex) basefname="`pwd`/${name}" # Change this line to whatever typesetting command you like that produces PDFs. # pdflatex --file-line-error --shell-escape --synctex=1 "$1" # comment the line above and uncomment the one below if you wish to use an # installed TeXShop engine. Here we use pdflatexmk as an example. ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" # Get TeXShop's PDF window position window=`defaults read TeXShop "NSWindow Frame PdfKitWindow"` # replace every space run by a single space window=`echo $window | sed 's/ +/ /g'` x=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 1` y=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 2` width=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 3` height=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 4` # Close any preview that already exists (if any) and open the new one. /usr/bin/osascript < Message-ID: Hi Victor, On 22/05/2010, at 10:48 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{tikz} > \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} > \begin{document} > \parindent 0pt > \begin{tikzpicture} > \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); > \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; > \end{tikzpicture} > \end{document} > > It results in pdf file which looks perfect in AR, evince, kpdf, Apple > "Get Info" but not in Apple Preview and other applications using the > same engine: it looks like pdf was slightly cropped from the top and a > tiny margin was added on the bottom. When I run this and look at the result there is a problem at the right-hand edge too. My first though was that it could be related to the different interpretations of how long is a point. Is it 72 points per inch, or ~72.27 points per inch ? If you uncompress the PDF and look at its internal coding, you'll see: >>> 0.0 0.0 m >>> 24.65785 0.0 m >>> 24.65785 13.68492 13.68492 24.65785 0.0 24.65785 c so the circle is drawn with radius: 24.65785 which is very close to 25.75 x 72/72.27 . > Further, running pdfcrop > generates pdf which looks perfect in Apple Preview and Co as well When I view it in Apple's Preview it actually looks fine; Skim also. Where it does not look fine is in TeXshop's Preview. So there is definitely a problem in some viewers based on Apple's PDFKit, but maybe Apple doesn't actually use it themselves? BTW, my versions are quite old: Preview v3.0.9 Skim 1.2.7 (45) TeXshop 2.31 under MacOS X 10.4.11 . > > Would be it possible to explain the reason of such unusual behavior? Maybe an error has been introduced with either OSX 10.5 or 10.6 ? > > Victor Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------- Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Sun May 23 03:53:50 2010 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 11:53:50 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview References: <53E768C8-2125-4EA9-AF11-6D1CA104499A@mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <657D4866-0CB7-4623-95A0-2D2BEC36903C@maths.mq.edu.au> Hi David, On 22/05/2010, at 1:14 PM, David Watson wrote: >> I see very little reason for such strong reaction. >> > > I was trying to understand more about what the OP <> to > accomplish, It seemed to me that he was just reporting an inconsistent behaviour, without really knowing which piece of software might be the culprit. Many of us do this; it is quite appropriate for a discussion list such as this one. > because an imperfection in Preview is meaningless if the pdf is > otherwise good. But which Preview? My previous posting shows that Apple's own Preview works fine --- at least it did with earlier software versions. > Moreover, your investigation into the quick view and pdfcrop > validate my original suggestion that perhaps the OP could change > the <> and achieve what he desired (i.e. see the pdf > without the buggy crop). > > I thought what I said was simple and clear enough, but evidently, > it requires repeating ad nauseum. > And the OP has yet to comment on whether he is merely pointing out > a bug in Preview, in which case the OP would be better served to > report a bug at radar.apple.com, or whether a workaround was needed. But it is also good to have knowledge of this issue present within the Archives of this list, since it could be noticed by others, who will be equally perplexed by it. Maybe there are alternative ways for TeXshop's preview to be built. So maybe the issue can be fixed without involving Apple at all. Certainly I do not know if this is the case, but there will be someone on this list who will be able to check it out. In my experience, one's first perception of why software is doing something different from your expectations is almost invariably incorrect. It is only when someone who was involved in writing it takes a good look at the problem that the real cause in uncovered. > > I stand by my original thoughts even more strongly, now. > The OP could change the process of creating the pdf by including a > new engine in TeXShop, or on the command line for that matter, > which calls pdfcrop on the final pdf file. Yes, that may be true. But why bother doing this if it is pointless, because the problem is only in the viewing software? BTW, when I try using pdfcrop then the PDF does change. The righthand margin gets lost. This is evident in all viewers. Within the PDF itself, the /MediaBox has changed. original: /MediaBox [0 0 50.809 50.809] after cropping: /MediaBox [0 0 50 51] So I would say that this is not an acceptable solution at all. This was done with PDFCROP 1.5, 2004/06/24 - Copyright (c) 2002, 2004 by Heiko Oberdiek. which moves the accurate Bounding Box information into an /XObject dictionary; viz. 1 0 obj << /Type /XObject /Subtype /Form /FormType 1 /PTEX.FileName (./tikz-test.pdf) /PTEX.PageNumber 1 /PTEX.InfoDict 6 0 R /BBox [0 0 50.809 50.809] > >> Victor >> -- Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sun May 23 04:08:14 2010 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:08:14 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, As always, Ross Moore has provided interesting information. I need to warn folks that I have heavily involved with MacTeX-2010, and intend to ignore this problem for several weeks. Feel free to write me about it directly toward the middle of June. It is possible that MacTeX-2010 will be out by then. Dick Koch On May 22, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi Victor, > > On 22/05/2010, at 10:48 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list >> >> \documentclass{article} >> \usepackage{tikz} >> \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} >> \begin{document} >> \parindent 0pt >> \begin{tikzpicture} >> \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); >> \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; >> \end{tikzpicture} >> \end{document} >> >> It results in pdf file which looks perfect in AR, evince, kpdf, Apple >> "Get Info" but not in Apple Preview and other applications using the >> same engine: it looks like pdf was slightly cropped from the top and a >> tiny margin was added on the bottom. > > When I run this and look at the result there is a problem > at the right-hand edge too. > > When I view it in Apple's Preview it actually looks fine; Skim also. > Where it does not look fine is in TeXshop's Preview. > So there is definitely a problem in some viewers based on Apple's > PDFKit, but maybe Apple doesn't actually use it themselves? > > BTW, my versions are quite old: > Preview v3.0.9 > Skim 1.2.7 (45) > TeXshop 2.31 under MacOS X 10.4.11 . From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sun May 23 04:16:03 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 22:16:03 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <866D3E0B-6EDF-4132-B414-8EDA8DA9F779@shiftingbalance.org> References: <20100520190006.CF744145EEBC@email> <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <9CE700C4-8047-4F44-B5AC-84A7A78235A4@me.com> <09B961AF-6B7B-4392-B2DC-5B3F0329E5AE@me.com> <6DB42442-E954-4976-9CFA-559F952C0F37@me.com> <866D3E0B-6EDF-4132-B414-8EDA8DA9F779@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: <915B7875-B1CF-4731-A260-D46A5DED36F8@gmail.com> On May 22, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> Original Poster? While this may be OT but by the way, the OP's name is Margarida Mello. (May 20, 2010 4:01:32 PM EDT) Now, when I first take roll in a class, and since I address my students by their last name prefixed with Mr. or Ms, I have to make a guess as to the gender of the student whose name I am about to call. My strongest rule of thumb is that any student whose first name ends with an a is to be addressed as Ms. Regards --schremmer From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sun May 23 04:31:37 2010 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:31:37 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> References: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Folks, I couldn't stay away from this problem after my initial curt reply. I just tried the example code, using TeXShop 2.33 on Snow Leopard. What I see in TeXShop is a circle cut off slightly at the top, so we can see only half of the thickness of the line there, but with a little space to the left AND right AND bottom. I don't see a problem with the right hand edge. HOWEVER, when I look at the resulting pdf in Preview, then the circle is cut off both at the top, and also at the right side. This gave me a certain amount of pleasure since the result is the opposite of Ross' experience on system 10.4.11 I'm virtually certain that Preview uses the same PDFKit code used by TeXShop. I don't know why the latest Preview cuts the circle off at the right. But I bet the cut at the top is due to PDFKit rather than, say, to TeXShop's notion of a bounding box for the pdf. Eventually I'll look into this. If I look at the result in Adobe Reader, the top is not cut off. Dick Koch > On May 22, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > >> Hi Victor, >> >> On 22/05/2010, at 10:48 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: >> >>> The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list >>> >>> \documentclass{article} >>> \usepackage{tikz} >>> \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} >>> \begin{document} >>> \parindent 0pt >>> \begin{tikzpicture} >>> \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); >>> \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; >>> \end{tikzpicture} >>> \end{document} >>> >>> It results in pdf file which looks perfect in AR, evince, kpdf, Apple >>> "Get Info" but not in Apple Preview and other applications using the >>> same engine: it looks like pdf was slightly cropped from the top and a >>> tiny margin was added on the bottom. >> >> When I run this and look at the result there is a problem >> at the right-hand edge too. >> >> BTW, my versions are quite old: >> Preview v3.0.9 >> Skim 1.2.7 (45) >> TeXshop 2.31 under MacOS X 10.4.11 . From msharpe at ucsd.edu Sun May 23 06:14:43 2010 From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 21:14:43 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <275A09E7-45C6-4A4A-B25B-E18AC25EB9F7@ucsd.edu> On May 22, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi Victor, > > On 22/05/2010, at 10:48 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > >> The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list >> >> \documentclass{article} >> \usepackage{tikz} >> \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} >> \begin{document} >> \parindent 0pt >> \begin{tikzpicture} >> \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); >> \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; >> \end{tikzpicture} >> \end{document} >> >> It results in pdf file which looks perfect in AR, evince, kpdf, Apple >> "Get Info" but not in Apple Preview and other applications using the >> same engine: it looks like pdf was slightly cropped from the top and a >> tiny margin was added on the bottom. > > When I run this and look at the result there is a problem > at the right-hand edge too. > > My first though was that it could be related to the different > interpretations of how long is a point. > Is it 72 points per inch, or ~72.27 points per inch ? > > If you uncompress the PDF and look at its internal coding, > you'll see: > >>>> 0.0 0.0 m >>>> 24.65785 0.0 m >>>> 24.65785 13.68492 13.68492 24.65785 0.0 24.65785 c > > > so the circle is drawn with radius: 24.65785 > which is very close to 25.75 x 72/72.27 . > > >> Further, running pdfcrop >> generates pdf which looks perfect in Apple Preview and Co as well > > When I view it in Apple's Preview it actually looks fine; Skim also. > Where it does not look fine is in TeXshop's Preview. > So there is definitely a problem in some viewers based on Apple's > PDFKit, but maybe Apple doesn't actually use it themselves? > > BTW, my versions are quite old: > Preview v3.0.9 > Skim 1.2.7 (45) > TeXshop 2.31 under MacOS X 10.4.11 . > >> >> Would be it possible to explain the reason of such unusual behavior? > > > Maybe an error has been introduced with either OSX 10.5 or 10.6 ? > Something quite interesting is going on here. I'm using 10.6.3 and when processing the file with pdflatex, the top of the circle is cut off. However, if I process instead with latex xxx dvips -oxxx.ps xxx.dvi ps2eps -g -r=360 xxx.ps epstopdf xxx.eps then I get a file with no inappropriate cropping in Preview or in the TeXShop previewer. What I see now in Acrobat is identical to what I see in Preview. (This was not the case last year---PDFKit based viewers always clipped off part of the top back then. I sent in a bug report more than a year ago about this.) Could it be that pdfcrop had adjusted for Apple's former bad behavior in PDFKit, and Apple has now repaired one of their pdf rendering bugs? Michael From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 23 17:14:00 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:14:00 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> On May 21, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > I can't get tex4ht to succeed on the command line; SimpleTex4ht works, though. > > Here is the file: > >> \documentclass{article} >> \begin{document} >> Hi! Joy to the World! >> \end{document} > > Not surprisingly, the file compiles correctly (using LaTeX, not pdfLaTeX). But: > >> zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex >> ---------------------------- >> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >> tex4ht joy.tex >> --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' >> [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex >> zsh-% >> > > Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. > > I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. > > Thanks for considering my question! > > Howdy, Here's the results of running htlatex on your file (called test.tex on my system): $ htlatex test.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) entering extended mode LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso rbian, welsh, loaded. (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TeX4ht info is available in the log file :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty --- needs --- tex4ht test --- (./test.tmp) l.1437 --- TeX4ht warning --- No file test.xref --- (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) No file test.aux. [1] (./test.aux) ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) entering extended mode LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso rbian, welsh, loaded. (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TeX4ht info is available in the log file :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty --- needs --- tex4ht test --- (./test.tmp) (./test.xref) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (./test.aux) [1] (./test.aux) ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) entering extended mode LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso rbian, welsh, loaded. (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TeX4ht info is available in the log file :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty --- needs --- tex4ht test --- (./test.tmp) (./test.xref) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) (./test.aux) [1] (./test.aux) ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. ---------------------------- tex4ht.c (2009-01-31-07:33 kpathsea) tex4ht -f/test.tex -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/ (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/iso8859/1/charset/unicode.4hf) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmr10.tfm) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/alias/lm/lm-rep-cmrm/cmr.htf) Searching `lm-rep-cmrm.htf' for `cmr10.htf' (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/unicode/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.htf) [1 file test.html file test.css file test.tmp ] Execute script `test.lg' ---------------------------- t4ht.c (2009-01-31-07:34 kpathsea) t4ht -f/test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env) Entering test.lg Entering test.css Entering test.tmp So all went well. As noted above I've got a tex4ht.env in /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 23 17:18:22 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:18:22 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] mathpro blues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 22, 2010, at 7:14 AM, themis wrote: > I installed mactex on a new computer, copied ~/libraytexmf from the old computer to the new, run > > sudo updmap-sys --disable belleek.map > sudo updmap-sys --enable Map mtpro2.map > > but when I try to use my mtpro2 fonts I get > > kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+57/600 --dpi 657 mt2syt > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for mt2syt. > kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. > ) > !pdfTeX error: /usr/texbin/pdflatex (file mt2syt): Font mt2syt at 657 not found\\ > > What am I missing? > > Thanks > > Themis Howdy, I assume you mean that you copied the ~/Library/texmf folder from your other system. Where is the mtpro2.map file, etc? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 23 17:21:34 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:21:34 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Engine to use Acrobat as previewer In-Reply-To: <1274578775664-5089719.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274526058881-5087826.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274526424220-5087841.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274562098935-5089223.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274578775664-5089719.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5B3C5BBD-FFBC-4431-90C6-EA90D6F4B63B@wideopenwest.com> On May 22, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > Alas the engine I posted only works fully for Adobe Acrobat Pro and not > Adobe Reader, since although they have the same applescript dictionary > Acrobat Reader does not have many of the commands implemented. > > Not all is lost as one can implement most of the functionality using System > Events, but the preview will always open on page 1. Moreover, the Acrobat > engine will set the preview position to the TeXShop default on its first > run, but once there is a preview open it will position subsequent previews > in the place the user chooses (until she closes it). The Reader engine > always opens the preview in the same place, as defined by TeXShop. > > Finally, you must open System Preferences and check Enable Access for > Assistive Devices in the Universal Access preference pane, for this engine > to work. > > Enjoy! (but not as much) > > Ram?n > > ---------------------------code starts after this > line-------------------------- > #!/bin/bash > > PATH="$PATH:/usr/texbin:/usr/local/bin" > > name=$(basename "$1" .tex) > basefname="`pwd`/${name}" > > # Change this line to whatever typesetting command you like that produces > PDFs. > # pdflatex --file-line-error --shell-escape --synctex=1 "$1" > # comment the line above and uncomment the one below if you wish to use an > # installed TeXShop engine. Here we use pdflatexmk as an example. > ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/pdflatexmk.engine "$1" > > # Get TeXShop's PDF window position > window=`defaults read TeXShop "NSWindow Frame PdfKitWindow"` > # replace every space run by a single space > window=`echo $window | sed 's/ +/ /g'` > > x=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 1` > y=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 2` > width=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 3` > height=`echo "$window" | cut -d ' ' -f 4` > > # Close any preview that already exists (if any) and open the new one. > /usr/bin/osascript < activate application "Adobe Reader" > tell application "System Events" > tell process "Adobe Reader" > try > click button 1 of window "$name.pdf" > end try > end tell > end tell > > set x to $x > set y to $y - 115 > set h to $height + 115 > set w to $width > > tell application "Adobe Reader" > open POSIX file "$basefname.pdf" > end tell > > tell application "System Events" > tell process "Adobe Reader" > set position of window "$name.pdf" to {x, y} > set size of window "$name.pdf" to {w, h} > end tell > end tell > > END > > # We close the pdf window in TeXShop > close_window="tell application \"TeXShop\" to close (every window whose name > is \"$name.pdf\")" > > /usr/bin/nohup /usr/bin/osascript -e "$close_window" & > Howdy, Been off the net for a short while so couldn't add that this is a much nicer way of dealing with things than using a Macro. Using the pdflatexmk engine would definitely be the way to go (assuming you would be using pdflatex for compilation) but folks should make sure that those engines, found in ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/Inactive/Latexmk/ are activated already. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 23 17:27:12 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:27:12 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On May 22, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > Folks, > > I couldn't stay away from this problem after my initial curt reply. > > I just tried the example code, using TeXShop 2.33 on Snow Leopard. > What I see in TeXShop is a circle cut off slightly at the top, so we can see only > half of the thickness of the line there, but with a little space to the left AND right > AND bottom. I don't see a problem with the right hand edge. > > HOWEVER, when I look at the resulting pdf in Preview, then the circle is cut off > both at the top, and also at the right side. > > This gave me a certain amount of pleasure since the result is the opposite of > Ross' experience on system 10.4.11 > > I'm virtually certain that Preview uses the same PDFKit code used by TeXShop. > I don't know why the latest Preview cuts the circle off at the right. But I bet the > cut at the top is due to PDFKit rather than, say, to TeXShop's notion of > a bounding box for the pdf. Eventually I'll look into this. > > If I look at the result in Adobe Reader, the top is not cut off. > > Dick Koch Howdy, I get the same results as you in both TeXShop and Preview. However, if I use the magnifyiing glass to enlarge the ``page'' I can see space at the top in TeXShop's Preview Window. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sun May 23 19:25:09 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <10E914A0-10BF-402D-8C0B-140F68EABEC5@gmail.com> <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <1274635509212-5091269.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I get the feeling that the culprit might not be solely PDFKit, but there must be something to do with pdfTeX. Curiouser and curiouser! (cried Alice) Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/texshop-and-preview-tp5082103p5091269.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From msharpe at ucsd.edu Sun May 23 21:20:21 2010 From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 12:20:21 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <275A09E7-45C6-4A4A-B25B-E18AC25EB9F7@ucsd.edu> References: <275A09E7-45C6-4A4A-B25B-E18AC25EB9F7@ucsd.edu> Message-ID: <858C6003-80AD-46F4-8C2C-FC62D12FFAD4@ucsd.edu> On May 22, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Michael Sharpe wrote: > > Something quite interesting is going on here. I'm using 10.6.3 and when processing the file with pdflatex, the top of the circle is cut off. However, if I process instead with > latex xxx > dvips -oxxx.ps xxx.dvi > ps2eps -g -r=360 xxx.ps > epstopdf xxx.eps > > then I get a file with no inappropriate cropping in Preview or in the TeXShop previewer. What I see now in Acrobat is identical to what I see in Preview. (This was not the case last year---PDFKit based viewers always clipped off part of the top back then. I sent in a bug report more than a year ago about this.) Could it be that pdfcrop had adjusted for Apple's former bad behavior in PDFKit, and Apple has now repaired one of their pdf rendering bugs? > I have some more details that are puzzling, to say the least. 1. If I run pstopdf on the ps file, I get a a cut-off circle, and the media box is set to [0 0 50.81 50.81], a bit smaller ( a little less than half a line width) than the BoundingBox in the ps file. (This is the same size media box produced by pdflatex.) 2. If I run eps2pdf on the eps file, I get no cut-off, and the media box is set to [0 0 51 51]. 3. There appear to be few substantial differences between the .ps and .eps---the BoundingBoxes are the same, and I removed the HiResBoundingBox from the .eps just in case that was an issue. (It was not.) 4. When I ran eps2pdf on the ps file, cut-off occurred. So, the differences between the eps and ps must be significant, but I don't understand why. Michael From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Sun May 23 22:26:59 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 06:26:59 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <858C6003-80AD-46F4-8C2C-FC62D12FFAD4@ucsd.edu> References: <275A09E7-45C6-4A4A-B25B-E18AC25EB9F7@ucsd.edu> <858C6003-80AD-46F4-8C2C-FC62D12FFAD4@ucsd.edu> Message-ID: On 24/05/2010, at 5:20 AM, Michael Sharpe wrote: > I have some more details that are puzzling, to say the least. > > 1. If I run pstopdf on the ps file, I get a a cut-off circle, and > the media box is set to [0 0 50.81 50.81], a bit smaller ( a little > less than half a line width) than the BoundingBox in the ps file. > (This is the same size media box produced by pdflatex.) 72/72.27 x 51 = 50.80946450809465 ~ 50.81 TeX applies the 72/72.27 rescaling to the values provided in the Tikz code, (unless you have specified 'truept' as the unit of measure; e.g. 51 truept.) > > 2. If I run eps2pdf on the eps file, ... What was the BoundingBox in the .eps ? Presumably this is what goes into the MediaBox here: > ... I get no cut-off, and the media box is set to [0 0 51 51]. This is a rounding to the nearest (higher?) integer. Since it is larger, then you'd not expect any cutoff. > > 3. There appear to be few substantial differences between the .ps > and .eps---the BoundingBoxes are the same, Not sure what you mean by this; there is no BoundingBox in the .ps file. This is not created until the conversion to .eps . > and I removed the HiResBoundingBox from the .eps just in case that > was an issue. (It was not.) When I follow those steps, the .eps starts with: %!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 791 50 842 %%HiResBoundingBox: 0.442188 791.842188 49.957813 841.357813 which converts to PDF with < > 4. When I ran eps2pdf on the ps file, cut-off occurred. So, the > differences between the eps and ps must be significant, but I don't > understand why. That rounding down to 50 instead of up to 51 should result in a small cut-off at the right. If there is also cutoff at the top, then a small translation must have occurred also, when creating the .eps version. > > Michael Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sun May 23 22:36:36 2010 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 13:36:36 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: References: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <6C7AECAB-33C0-495F-BC66-ACE53539D4DF@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, I wrote this last night, but then sent the message only to myself. Now I'm sending it to the list, and adding a paragraph to explain Herb's discovery this morning. a) Ross Moore rightly suggested that it would be useful to look at the code and see what each program is actually doing with a pdf file. In the case of TeXShop, here is the essential code: PDFDocument *pdfDoc; if ([self doReleaseDocument]) { pdfDoc = [[[PDFDocument alloc] initWithURL: [NSURL fileURLWithPath: imagePath]] autorelease]; [self setDocument: pdfDoc]; } else { ... } [myPDFWindow makeKeyAndOrderFront: self]; I left out some lines which deal with displaying the total number of pages in the document in the GUI, but the essential story is here. Let me translate. PDFDocument is a class in PDFKit which obtains and organizes data from a pdf file; the code displayed above belongs to a PDFView class --- a PDFKit class which displays PDF data. The lines if ( [self doReleaseDocument]) { ... else ... say "if we are running on Leopard, everything will work fine, but otherwise we have to do some fancy footwork to avoid PDFKit bugs"; this explains why the TeXShop web page says "System 10.5 or Higher Strongly Recommended". So essentially the above code says tell PDFKit to create a PDFDocument class from the pdf file give that PDFDocument to the PDFView tell the window to display itself There is no code to determine page size, bounding boxes, media boxes, or anything else. All of that is handled by PDFKit. TeXShop does all sorts of things, but it doesn't dig into the pdf file in any way. If somebody is cutting off the top of that circle, it isn't me. Addition: This morning, Herb discovered that the top of the circle is not cut off in TeXShop if viewed with the magnifying glass. The TeXShop code for the magnifying glass occurs in an entirely different place, and is done by manipulating the PDFView's documentView bounds and redrawing. So one of the bounding rectangles which PDFKit picked up from the pdf file has been resized, allowing the underlying pdf to show through. b) Usually I run TeXShop with magnification set to "Fit To Window." In the key example below, this gives a large circle, cut off at the top. But if you set magnification to "Actual Size", you'll see that the circle is very small. it is fun to magnify the circle by changing all numbers below to numbers ten times as large. Switching back to "Fit To Window", you'll immediately see that TeXShop --- er, PDFKit --- does the right thing. So whatever is going on is an incorrect clip box, or some box, off by a few pixels. I suspect one of tikz, the geometry package, and pdftex is bounding the dimensions of one of the boxes.This rounding is visible to us because the image is subsequently magnified a lot. c) Direct inspection of the pdf file shows lots of compressed information. It would be nice to have that file in uncompressed form. Google suggests that a free program named pdftk can do that, but the version of the program I found for OS X couldn't handle PDF-1.5 files. Can anyone uncompress that pdf file? Even better, remove the line which inserts text, typeset, and then uncompress, hoping for a pdf file as short and simple as possible. Dick Koch >>> The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list >>> >>> \documentclass{article} >>> \usepackage{tikz} >>> \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} >>> \begin{document} >>> \parindent 0pt >>> \begin{tikzpicture} >>> \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); >>> \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; >>> \end{tikzpicture} >>> \end{document} > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vivrii at gmail.com Sun May 23 23:14:00 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <6C7AECAB-33C0-495F-BC66-ACE53539D4DF@math.uoregon.edu> References: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> <6C7AECAB-33C0-495F-BC66-ACE53539D4DF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > > in uncompressed form. Google suggests that a free program named pdftk can do > that, but the version of > the program I found for OS X couldn't handle PDF-1.5 files. Can anyone > uncompress that pdf file? Even > better, remove the line which inserts text, typeset, and then uncompress, > hoping for a pdf file as short > and simple as possible. http://fredericiana.com/downloads/pdftk1.41_OSX10.6.dmg handles pdf 1.6 But actually it is pdf 1.4 uncompressed file attached > > Dick Koch > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: unc.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 9484 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Sun May 23 23:24:23 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:24:23 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] texshop and preview In-Reply-To: <6C7AECAB-33C0-495F-BC66-ACE53539D4DF@math.uoregon.edu> References: <86104B03-5D30-42A7-8B3B-D5A7E5AB74B9@math.uoregon.edu> <6C7AECAB-33C0-495F-BC66-ACE53539D4DF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <5CA6F81D-2FA1-4BCA-8521-05F78A0A2C83@mq.edu.au> Hi Dick, On 24/05/2010, at 6:36 AM, Richard Koch wrote: > c) Direct inspection of the pdf file shows lots of compressed > information. It would be nice to have that file > in uncompressed form. Google suggests that a free program named > pdftk can do that, but the version of > the program I found for OS X couldn't handle PDF-1.5 files. Cannot you insert \pdfminorversion=4 (or 3 or 2) I don't believe there is anything in it that is beyond PDF 1.2. (touchwood!) > Can anyone uncompress that pdf file? Attached. I've left the text in. It's easy enough to avoid the font and metric information. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tikz-test-unc.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 6042 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > Even > better, remove the line which inserts text, typeset, and then > uncompress, hoping for a pdf file as short > and simple as possible. Here is the main object. >>> 8 0 obj >>> <>> >> >>> stream >>> 0 g 0 G >>> 0 g 0 G >>> 0 g 0 G >>> 1 0 0 1 25.23 25.579 cm >>> q >>> 0 G >>> 0 g >>> 0.3985 w >>> q >>> q >>> 0.14943 w >>> 0.0 0.0 m >>> 24.65785 0.0 m >>> 24.65785 13.68492 13.68492 24.65785 0.0 24.65785 c >>> -13.68492 24.65785 -24.65785 13.68492 -24.65785 0.0 c >>> -24.65785 -13.68492 -13.68492 -24.65785 0.0 -24.65785 c >>> 13.68492 -24.65785 24.65785 -13.68492 24.65785 0.0 c >>> h >>> 0.0 0.0 m >>> S >>> Q >>> 0.0 0.0 m >>> S >>> q >>> q >>> 1 0 0 1 -16.051 -2.242 cm >>> 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 cm >>> q >>> 0 G >>> 0 g >>> 1 0 0 1 -9.179 -23.337 cm >>> BT >>> /F8 9.9626 Tf 9.179 23.337 Td [(24.75pt)]TJ >>> ET >>> 1 0 0 1 9.179 23.337 cm >>> Q >>> 1 0 0 1 16.051 2.242 cm >>> Q >>> Q >>> Q >>> n >>> Q >>> 0 g 0 G >>> 0 g 0 G >>> >>> endstream >>> endobj > > > Dick Koch > > > > >>>> The following example was posted in MacOSX TeX mailing list >>>> >>>> \documentclass{article} >>>> \usepackage{tikz} >>>> \usepackage[papersize={51pt,51pt},margin=.5pt,centering]{geometry} >>>> \begin{document} >>>> \parindent 0pt >>>> \begin{tikzpicture} >>>> \draw[line width=.5pt] (0,0) circle (24.75pt); >>>> \draw (0,0) node{24.75pt}; >>>> \end{tikzpicture} >>>> \end{document} Cheers, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Mon May 24 01:05:53 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 19:05:53 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] mathpro blues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D59224E-B846-40E4-A11B-A06C5FA25F7B@gmail.com> On May 23, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > I assume you mean that you copied the ~/Library/texmf folder from your other system. Where is the mtpro2.map file, etc? I got it fixed. I caused the problem with a mistake that's too embarrassing to admit: I run updmap not from my user account, which did not have sudo privileges, but from an account with admin privileges. As Pete guessed, this created wrong maps. Once I updated maps from my own account, everything worked as advertised. Themis From z_californianus-dated-1275103788.f09fc1 at shiftingbalance.org Mon May 24 05:29:43 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1275103788.f09fc1 at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:29:43 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: The plot thickens: I have the two tex4ht.env files: > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/win32/tex4ht.env > But I still get the same error when I compile the test file (which I am now calling file.tex). The output I see looks, so far as I can tell, exactly like Herb's. I am including it below, however, in case someone notices a difference. BUT: I tried an experiment---I copied tex4ht.env into the same directory that file.tex was in, and ran htlatex from that same directory. No problems! I wonder if there is a competing installation of tex4ht somewhere on my machine? A leftover configuration file or something? I will hunt around... > zsh-% htlatex file.tex > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) (./file.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./file.aux) [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) (./file.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./file.aux) [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, indonesian, interlingua, irish, italian, ku > rmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolian2a, bokmal, nynorsk, po > lish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slovak, slovenian, span > ish, swedish, turkish, ukenglish, ukrainian, uppersorbian, welsh, loaded. > (./file.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht file --- > (./file.tmp) (./file.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./file.aux) [1] (./file.aux) ) > Output written on file.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on file.log. > ---------------------------- > tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) > tex4ht -f/file.tex > -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/ > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' > /usr/texbin/htlatex: line 5: 3393 Bus error tex4ht -f/$1 -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/$3 > ---------------------------- > t4ht.c (2007-01-05-03:17 kpathsea) > t4ht -f/file.tex > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' > --- warning --- Can't find/open file `file.lg' > On May 23, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 21, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: > >> I can't get tex4ht to succeed on the command line; SimpleTex4ht works, though. >> >> Here is the file: >> >>> \documentclass{article} >>> \begin{document} >>> Hi! Joy to the World! >>> \end{document} >> >> Not surprisingly, the file compiles correctly (using LaTeX, not pdfLaTeX). But: >> >>> zsh-% tex4ht joy.tex >>> ---------------------------- >>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>> tex4ht joy.tex >>> --- warning --- Can't find/open file `tex4ht.env | .tex4ht' >>> [1] 6518 bus error tex4ht joy.tex >>> zsh-% >>> >> >> Any ideas? My first thought was that something isn't in the right path. >> >> I am using TL2009, older MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard. >> >> Thanks for considering my question! >> >> > > Howdy, > > Here's the results of running htlatex on your file (called test.tex on my system): > > $ htlatex test.tex > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada > , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i > rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b > okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova > k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso > rbian, welsh, loaded. > (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht test --- > (./test.tmp) > l.1437 --- TeX4ht warning --- No file test.xref --- > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > No file test.aux. > [1] (./test.aux) ) > Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on test.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada > , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i > rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b > okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova > k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso > rbian, welsh, loaded. > (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht test --- > (./test.tmp) (./test.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./test.aux) [1] (./test.aux) ) > Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on test.log. > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) > entering extended mode > LaTeX2e <2009/09/24> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh > yphenation, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, ancientgreek, ibycus, ar > abic, basque, bulgarian, catalan, pinyin, coptic, croatian, czech, danish, dutc > h, esperanto, estonian, farsi, finnish, french, galician, german, ngerman, mono > greek, greek, hungarian, icelandic, assamese, bengali, gujarati, hindi, kannada > , malayalam, marathi, oriya, panjabi, tamil, telugu, indonesian, interlingua, i > rish, italian, kurmanji, latin, latvian, lithuanian, mongolian, mongolianlmc, b > okmal, nynorsk, polish, portuguese, romanian, russian, sanskrit, serbian, slova > k, slovenian, spanish, swedish, turkish, turkmen, ukenglish, ukrainian, upperso > rbian, welsh, loaded. > (./test.tex (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.4ht > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > TeX4ht info is available in the log file > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ) (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/tex4ht.sty > --- needs --- tex4ht test --- > (./test.tmp) (./test.xref) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/latex.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/fontmath.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/article.4ht > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4.4ht) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/html4-math.4ht)) > (./test.aux) [1] (./test.aux) ) > Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 9512 bytes). > Transcript written on test.log. > ---------------------------- > tex4ht.c (2009-01-31-07:33 kpathsea) > tex4ht -f/test.tex > -i~/tex4ht.dir/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/ > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/iso8859/1/charset/unicode.4hf) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmr10.tfm) > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/alias/lm/lm-rep-cmrm/cmr.htf) > Searching `lm-rep-cmrm.htf' for `cmr10.htf' > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/unicode/lm/lm-rep-cmrm.htf) > [1 file test.html > file test.css > file test.tmp > ] > Execute script `test.lg' > ---------------------------- > t4ht.c (2009-01-31-07:34 kpathsea) > t4ht -f/test.tex > (/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env) > Entering test.lg > Entering test.css > Entering test.tmp > > So all went well. As noted above I've got a tex4ht.env in /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex4ht/base/unix/. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > > > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If it is a bug it is not a big one, but it perplexed me for a few minutes today :) Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/TeXShop-Oddity-with-Engines-tp5092772p5092772.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 08:58:34 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop Message-ID: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, A while back I wrote a nice applescript to integrate BBEdit and ChkTeX (see for that and instructions on how to install ChkTeX on OS X). Now, if you do not have BBEdit it occurred to me that an engine for TeXShop would provide another way (not as nice) to use ChkTeX. I am attaching it. Install ChkTeX. Install the engine in ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines and make sure it is executable. Add the following line towards the top of your document (first 20 lines) "% !TEX TS-program = ChkTeX" (assuming you named the engine "ChkTeX.engine") and typeset (it will not typeset, of course, instead it will show you the output of ChkTeX in you document's TeXShop console). Enjoy! Ram?n --------------code below this line----------------- #!/bin/bash name=$(basename "$1" .tex) /usr/local/bin/chktex "$1" console="tell application \"TeXShop\" to set the index of (the window named \"$name console\") to 1" /usr/bin/osascript -e "$console" --------------code above this line----------------- http://n2.nabble.com/file/n5092823/ChkTeX.engine ChkTeX.engine -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-Engine-for-TeXShop-tp5092823p5092823.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 24 10:42:05 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:42:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> Am 24.05.2010 um 05:29 schrieb Adam M. Goldstein: >> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) > Your version of this file is quite old. Looking at the large list of languages supported by Babel it's obvious for a second time that you never updated TeX Live 2009. An update might cure your problem. If not, then a problem exists in that you use zsh interactively and the TeX4ht scripts are Bourne shell based. This can indicate that you missed to prepare your system for the Bourne shell. -- Greetings Pete To be is to do. ? I. Kant To do is to be. ? A. Sartre Yabba-Dabba-Doo! ? F. Flintstone From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Mon May 24 10:08:41 2010 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:08:41 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> Ram?n On 24 May 2010, at 7:58:34AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > Now, if you do not have BBEdit it occurred to me that an engine for TeXShop > would provide another way (not as nice) to use ChkTeX. I am attaching it. Thanks for this - it looks useful. It would be even better if TeXShop's "Go To Error" command also worked with it, to take you to the lines which it reports. I guess this would need some modifications to TeXShop (or ChkTeX) itself, to make it do that, however. Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 Computer Science & Informatics Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK VOIP: sip:17476235487 at proxy01.sipphone.com From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 13:34:38 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 04:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Ralph, I tried to get TeXShop to recognize the ChkTeX output as errors. I thought that getting it to output the ChkTeX errors in the file-line-error format would be enough (see below); but, although that might be necessary, it is not sufficient :( Hopefully someone will read this and provide us with a solution. Sincerely, Ram?n ----------code below this line----------- #!/bin/bash name=$(basename "$1" .tex) /usr/local/bin/chktex -q -f "%f:%l: %m " "$1" # Bring the console forward console="tell application \"TeXShop\" to set the index of (the window named \"$name console\") to 1" /usr/bin/osascript -e "$console" -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-Engine-for-TeXShop-tp5092823p5093455.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 24 15:26:10 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:26:10 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Oddity with Engines In-Reply-To: <1274683015225-5092772.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274683015225-5092772.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On May 24, 2010, at 1:36 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > When I install a new engine in "~/Library/Engines", say "newengine.engine", > then documents that are already open in TeXShop do not recognize it, i.e., > they will ignore the "% !TEX TS-program = newengine" directive and use the > default engine. However, documents that are opened after the engine is > installed do recognize it and will use it, no quitting required. > > If it is a bug it is not a big one, but it perplexed me for a few minutes > today :) > > Ram?n Howdy, I typically restart TeXShop if I change whatever is in the Engines folder. It appears that TeXShop scams the Engines folder to create the list for the popup menu once, when the Source Window opens, and each instance of a Source Window maintains its list. I wouldn't call it a bug... more like a feature. :-) Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 24 15:29:11 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:29:11 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> Message-ID: <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> On May 24, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 24.05.2010 um 05:29 schrieb Adam M. Goldstein: > >>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >> > > > Your version of this file is quite old. Looking at the large list of languages supported by Babel it's obvious for a second time that you never updated TeX Live 2009. An update might cure your problem. > > If not, then a problem exists in that you use zsh interactively and the TeX4ht scripts are Bourne shell based. This can indicate that you missed to prepare your system for the Bourne shell. > Howdy, The version of tex4ht.env I have is % tex4ht.env / .tex4ht (unix) 2009-01-20-20:54 % so I'd guess that Pete is onto something here. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 24 15:51:20 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:51:20 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On Mon 24th May, 2010 at 08:29, Herbert Schulz seems to have written: > > On May 24, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > >> Am 24.05.2010 um 05:29 schrieb Adam M. Goldstein: >> >>>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>> >> >> >> Your version of this file is quite old. Looking at the large list of languages supported by Babel it's obvious for a second time that you never updated TeX Live 2009. An update might cure your problem. >> >> If not, then a problem exists in that you use zsh interactively and the TeX4ht scripts are Bourne shell based. This can indicate that you missed to prepare your system for the Bourne shell. >> > The version of tex4ht.env I have is > > % tex4ht.env / .tex4ht (unix) 2009-01-20-20:54 % > > so I'd guess that Pete is onto something here. > This seems right except that the version of TL in use seems to be 2009 judging by the output from (pdf)TeX itself. That suggests to me that there may well be a mixture of different versions of the software around. That in itself need not be a problem as long as PATH etc. is configured right (e.g. via the TeX distribution preference pane) but maybe that isn't happening correctly in this case. MacTeX modifies the shell environment for sh/bash and tcsh/csh. Does it do this for zsh as well? If not, you might see strange mix-ups depending on the actual shell environment, mightn't you? Or does the fact that pdfTeX etc. are found correctly show that this cannot have anything to do with the problem? You might try: echo $PATH locate tex4ht.env - cfr > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Mon May 24 16:25:19 2010 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:25:19 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 24 May 2010, at 12:34:38PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > I tried to get TeXShop to recognize the ChkTeX output as errors. I thought > that getting it to output the ChkTeX errors in the file-line-error format > would be enough (see below); but, although that might be necessary, it is > not sufficient :( > > Hopefully someone will read this and provide us with a solution. OK, I delved into this a bit more, and seem to have come up with a first-cut solution which basically makes this work. It is not perfect: very long paragraphs which have no line break characters within them strangely cause the GoTo Error mechanism to skip over earlier warnings. Hopefully, someone who understands this all better than me can go the extra mile to provide a more robust solution. (1) Edit the OutFormat section in the /usr/local/etc/chktexrc file. Look for these two lines: ------------------ # -v5; no line number, ease auto-test "%k %n in %f: %m!n%r%s%t!n%u!n" ------------------ and put after them these two lines: ------------------ # -v6; for TeXShop GoTo Error mechanism "./%f:%l: %m!nl.%l %r!n?!n" ------------------ (2) Change Ram?n's ChkTeX.engine to contain: ------------------ #!/bin/bash name=$(basename "$1" .tex) /usr/local/bin/chktex -v6 "$1" console="tell application \"TeXShop\" to set the index of (the window named \"$name console\") to 1" /usr/bin/osascript -e "$console" ------------------ One further comment for anyone following on: using -f instead of -v6 above also seems not to work as, unexpectedly, "!n" comes out literally instead of as a newline. Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 Computer Science & Informatics Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK VOIP: sip:17476235487 at proxy01.sipphone.com From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Mon May 24 16:35:57 2010 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:35:57 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hmm. Something is definitely not right with my basic solution for GoTo Error and ChkTeX. Sometimes, it seems to go to the first so many warnings correctly, and then instead of finding the rest, cycles round to the start again. On other occasions it misses the first so many warnings. Anyway, it's a step in the right direction, and like I said, hopefully someone who really understands the GoTo Error mechanism can use this as a basis for a proper version. Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 Computer Science & Informatics Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK VOIP: sip:17476235487 at proxy01.sipphone.com From z_californianus-dated-1275144835.6eac3e at shiftingbalance.org Mon May 24 16:53:31 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1275144835.6eac3e at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:53:31 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <695B6AD6-142A-456E-8DDC-922E316E41B7@shiftingbalance.org> On May 24, 2010, at 9:51 AM, wrote: > On Mon 24th May, 2010 at 08:29, Herbert Schulz seems to have written: > >> >> On May 24, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: >> >>> Am 24.05.2010 um 05:29 schrieb Adam M. Goldstein: >>> >>>>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>>> >>> >>> >>> Your version of this file is quite old. Looking at the large list of languages supported by Babel it's obvious for a second time that you never updated TeX Live 2009. An update might cure your problem. >>> >>> If not, then a problem exists in that you use zsh interactively and the TeX4ht scripts are Bourne shell based. This can indicate that you missed to prepare your system for the Bourne shell. >>> >> The version of tex4ht.env I have is >> >> % tex4ht.env / .tex4ht (unix) 2009-01-20-20:54 % >> >> so I'd guess that Pete is onto something here. >> > This seems right except that the version of TL in use seems to be 2009 > judging by the output from (pdf)TeX itself. That suggests to me that > there may well be a mixture of different versions of the software > around. That in itself need not be a problem as long as PATH etc. is > configured right (e.g. via the TeX distribution preference pane) but > maybe that isn't happening correctly in this case. > > MacTeX modifies the shell environment for sh/bash and tcsh/csh. Does it > do this for zsh as well? If not, you might see strange mix-ups > depending on the actual shell environment, mightn't you? Or does the > fact that pdfTeX etc. are found correctly show that this cannot have > anything to do with the problem? > > You might try: > echo $PATH > locate tex4ht.env > My path has the texbin directory in it, and I set it up using the TeX distribution preference pane. So far as I remember, I downloaded the whole 2009 MacTeX distribution; but maybe I didn't get the complete package but rather a late "beta". In any case---again Pete has got the answer. Everything runs fine in bash. I will tinker with the zsh .profile or whatever it is. My bash and zsh environments are set up differently, apparently, because the $PATHS are different. Thanks everyone for offering so much help! And, this time the problem is solved! Yay! Adam ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1799 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 19:41:35 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1274722895993-5094941.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Ralph, Your modifications can be made without modifying chktexrc. It is working for me, so far. Ram?n -----------------code below this line----------------- #!/bin/bash name=$(basename "$1" .tex) n=$'\n' /usr/local/bin/chktex -q -f "./%f:%l: %m${n}l.%l %r$n?$n" "$1" console="tell application \"TeXShop\" to set the index of (the window named \"$name console\") to 1" /usr/bin/osascript -e "$console" -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-Engine-for-TeXShop-tp5092823p5094941.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 20:22:25 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? Message-ID: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I just read in PCWorld and article titled "Poisoned PDFs? Here's Your Antidote" . Scary stuff :( So I was wondering if this is a concern with TeXShop or Skim? I am assuming that the PDFs generated with pdfTeX are safe, right? Mahalo, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Are-Poisoned-PDFs-a-concern-with-TeXShop-or-Skim-tp5095110p5095110.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Mon May 24 20:24:24 2010 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:24:24 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274722895993-5094941.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274722895993-5094941.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8167CB1A-65AA-49E2-B519-26F715EE1C7A@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> On 24 May 2010, at 6:41:35PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > Your modifications can be made without modifying chktexrc. Interesting. Your version does NOT work for me as the warning messages do NOT come out on separate lines... Something is preventing the ${n} for newline being interpreted correctly here. That's why I modified chktexrc. Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 Computer Science & Informatics Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK VOIP: sip:17476235487 at proxy01.sipphone.com From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 24 20:37:33 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 13:37:33 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <667844D1-BC56-4A85-A8AC-53CC092FF95B@wideopenwest.com> On May 24, 2010, at 8:51 AM, wrote: > > MacTeX modifies the shell environment for sh/bash and tcsh/csh. Does it > do this for zsh as well? If not, you might see strange mix-ups > depending on the actual shell environment, mightn't you? Or does the > fact that pdfTeX etc. are found correctly show that this cannot have > anything to do with the problem? > Howdy, Unless zsh is ``sh or csh like'' I'd guess the OS won't pick up the proper PATH automatically. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 24 20:40:01 2010 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:40:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] engines vs macros/Applescripts Message-ID: <7FA9B51B-B33A-47B6-8A8C-22FAB1F04509@math.uni-heidelberg.de> One can easily incorporate shell scripts into Applescripts whereas the opposite is a pain. Hence, I prefer Applescripts to engines which are by definition shell scripts. The only reason why TeXShop users might prefer engines is that an engine can be permanently chosen in the pop-up menu. Hence, let me describe how to use Applescripts like engines: Save the Applescript as an application in the Applescript Editor and then define an engine calling this application. One might define a new Application folder in ~/Library/TeXShop for these applications. Attached is my pdflatex_error.app, which can be opened in Applescript Editor, which shows the errors in the source file. Let me also mention that ~/Flashmode/Applescript-modular contains a whole library of Applescripts which could be either used directly or could be modified. The engine should look like (the path to the application has to be modified) #!/bin/bash # name of the engine PATH="$PATH:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin" export PATH open -a ~/Library/Flashmode/Applescripts-modular/pdflatex_error.app Claus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mon May 24 21:32:28 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 05:32:28 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? In-Reply-To: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> Hello Ram?n, On 25/05/2010, at 4:22 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > I just read in PCWorld and article titled "Poisoned PDFs? Here's Your > Antidote" . > > Scary stuff :( > > So I was wondering if this is a concern with TeXShop or Skim? This is a "Social Engineering" kind of attack. Firstly you need to have downloaded a poisoned PDF from some dubious website, then you need to allow it to do its dirty work. If you are aware of the possibility and how it works, then you are unlikely to be sucked in. But even if you do allow the program to attempt to run, it almost certainly will not, because you are on a Mac. The executable is surely for a PC. (touchwood) > I am assuming > that the PDFs generated with pdfTeX are safe, right? If you have all the malware ingredients, then there are ways to put included files into the PDFs you create, and to assign the /OpenAction scripts, etc. So if you want to do this, then yes you can; but it certainly isn't going to happen without your own input. > > Mahalo, > > Ram?n > -- > View this message in context: http://macosx-tex. > 576846.n2.nabble.com/Are-Poisoned-PDFs-a-concern-with-TeXShop-or- > Skim-tp5095110p5095110.html Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 24 21:38:38 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:38:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? Message-ID: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> (1) I created in TeXShop a Lalala.tex which, when I typeset it creates in turn a Lalala.pdf. A number of choices as to how the document will turn out to be are controlled by which single one in a list of commands is uncommented. The file is downloadable from the web but the users tend not to like to open Lalala.tex so as to comment/uncomment to get what they want. (2) I would like to make a Front End that would allow the user: (a) to open Lalala.tex???but hopefully NOT display it, (b) to choose which in the list of commands is to be uncommented (Even I know how to do that.) (c) to typeset Lalala.tex and display Lalala.pdf (3) The way would seem to let TeXShop do the work but I have no idea what to do when it is a Windows user who downloads Lalala.tex (the majority of course.) I suppose that double-clicking on Lalala.tex will open it even under Windows but don't know what's creating the pdf under Windows. Then there is the question of what will display it. Etc, etc. I am aware that this is the Mac list so my question is only where would I have a chance to find help re Windows? Hopeful regards --schremmer From vivrii at gmail.com Mon May 24 21:53:16 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:53:16 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? In-Reply-To: <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> References: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > >> I just read in PCWorld and article titled "Poisoned PDFs? Here's Your >> Antidote" . >> >> Scary stuff :( >> Many if not majority of Windows antidotes/antiviruses are trojans which take your system hostage and request ransom. Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 22:24:10 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <8167CB1A-65AA-49E2-B519-26F715EE1C7A@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274722895993-5094941.post@n2.nabble.com> <8167CB1A-65AA-49E2-B519-26F715EE1C7A@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1274732650336-5095628.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Ralph, Maybe it is an encoding issue. I saved my copy of the engine in Unicode (utf-8) with Unix line endings. Now, I tweaked the engine even further (I am attaching it this time: http://n2.nabble.com/file/n5095628/ChkTeX.engine ChkTeX.engine and including the code below). Now, it prints more informative messages. Also, it seems that TeXShop only parses the first 20 errors when using "Goto Error" (after the 20th it cycles back to the first one). Thanks! Ram?n ------------------code below this line------------------- #!/bin/bash name=$(basename "$1" .tex) n=$'\n' /usr/local/bin/chktex -f "$n%m$n%r%s%t$n%u$n./%f:%l:ChkTeX %k %n${n}l.%l %r$n?$n" "$1" # Use this if you want less information #/usr/local/bin/chktex -f "./%f:%l:%m (ChkTeX %k %n)${n}l.%l %r$n?$n" "$1" console="tell application \"TeXShop\" to set the index of (the window named \"$name console\") to 1" /usr/bin/osascript -e "$console" -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-Engine-for-TeXShop-tp5092823p5095628.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Mon May 24 22:30:44 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:30:44 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? In-Reply-To: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <81EF9620-1E4E-433F-9875-E07906359C6E@alphabyte.co.nz> On 25/05/2010, at 6:22 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > I just read in PCWorld and article titled "Poisoned PDFs? Here's Your > Antidote" . > > Scary stuff :( > > So I was wondering if this is a concern with TeXShop or Skim? I am > assuming > that the PDFs generated with pdfTeX are safe, right? > The threat is not new. Symantec regularly release activity reports and from time to time a reporter looking for a story will pick one up and do some work. Any reputable antivirus/anti-malware/etc. application should pick up at least some of these, but of course one must always be cautious about the stray pdf you find in the street. Most pdf exploits are pretty well documented. Anyway, click on the link http://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/wl?tu_id=SUKX1271711282503126202 Go to pp 22-23, 42, 44, 45. It is all explained there. Provided these applications do not run javascript inclusions without user authorisation then you should be ok. Alan From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 24 22:32:09 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 13:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? In-Reply-To: <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> References: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <1274733129962-5095658.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Ross, I guess my question would be are PDFkit based applications vulnerable to these attacks? As long as I use Skim or TeXShop should I worry? Should Skim and TeXShop have settings disallowing the execution of code (if they are capable)? Now, to more important and vital matters: touchwood=knock on wood (in the U.S.)=toco madera (in Spanish)? Just getting my idioms straight :) Mahalo, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Are-Poisoned-PDFs-a-concern-with-TeXShop-or-Skim-tp5095110p5095658.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Mon May 24 22:52:49 2010 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:52:49 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX Engine for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274732650336-5095628.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274684314826-5092823.post@n2.nabble.com> <46C1D9AF-135D-481C-99D9-A2B0A9CCA566@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274700878555-5093455.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274722895993-5094941.post@n2.nabble.com> <8167CB1A-65AA-49E2-B519-26F715EE1C7A@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> <1274732650336-5095628.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <14D36D3B-013F-4CD9-93F4-2A9C5CCE1EFB@cs.cardiff.ac.uk> Hi Ram?n (Dick, there's a question and a comment for you at the end) On 24 May 2010, at 9:24:10PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > Maybe it is an encoding issue. I saved my copy of the engine in Unicode > (utf-8) with Unix line endings. Yes, that seems to have solved my problem. > Now, I tweaked the engine even further...: > http://n2.nabble.com/file/n5095628/ChkTeX.engine ChkTeX.engine Great. That engine works for me also. > Also, it seems that TeXShop only parses the first 20 errors when using "Goto > Error" (after the 20th it cycles back to the first one). Is this something that can be changed by a hidden TeXShop preference? Perhaps it should be if not... Also, setting the program to ChkTeX at the top of the file is not really how people will normally want to use ChkTeX, I would suggest. It ought to be a separate menu in the Typeset menu / button, to be run once in a while as an alternative to the regular program - which should not be altered. Dick, what do you think about adding this to some release of TeXshop downstream? Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 Computer Science & Informatics Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, UK VOIP: sip:17476235487 at proxy01.sipphone.com From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mon May 24 23:48:32 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:48:32 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Are Poisoned PDFs a concern with TeXShop or Skim? In-Reply-To: <1274733129962-5095658.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274725345922-5095110.post@n2.nabble.com> <137AE102-8833-461A-AE6E-85E1EF9B7B3C@mq.edu.au> <1274733129962-5095658.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <88A01A53-E202-4FCA-AB18-4DB551627A17@mq.edu.au> Hi Ram?n, On 25/05/2010, at 6:32 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha Ross, > > I guess my question would be are PDFkit based applications > vulnerable to > these attacks? As long as I use Skim or TeXShop should I worry? > Should Skim > and TeXShop have settings disallowing the execution of code (if > they are > capable)? I don't think they can run code at all. At least that is how it used to be; some PDFs that we produce for student quizzes have never worked with Apple's Preview. The embedded Javascript would not run. Perhaps this has changed in recent years? I've not tested. Also, the existence of a hidden button would screen a hyperlink beneath, even when the button had the option checked to pass events through. It is as if Apple deliberately chose not to support PDF forms. If this has changed then I'd really like to know the details. > > Now, to more important and vital matters: > > touchwood=knock on wood (in the U.S.)=toco madera (in Spanish)? Yes, it seems to be used the same way. viz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knocking_on_wood I'm using it to mean, sort of: "I think what I just said is true, but cannot really claim to know for sure -- so be warned!" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=touchwood > > Just getting my idioms straight :) > > Mahalo, Bewdy mate, :-) Ross http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bewdy > > Ram?n > -- > View this message in context: http://macosx-tex. > 576846.n2.nabble.com/Are-Poisoned-PDFs-a-concern-with-TeXShop-or- > Skim-tp5095110p5095658.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 24 23:14:23 2010 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 23:14:23 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: engines vs macros/Applescripts In-Reply-To: <1274728466270-5095355.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <7FA9B51B-B33A-47B6-8A8C-22FAB1F04509@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <1274728466270-5095355.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <099483DE-F584-4F26-B755-049249F38F79@math.uni-heidelberg.de> BBEdit isn't required. Claus On May 24, 2010, at 21:14, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > To get Dr. Gerhardt's example to work you must have his excellent Flashmode, > and BBEdit installed. > > Mahalo, > > Ram?n > -- > View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/engines-vs-macros-Applescripts-tp5095212p5095355.html > Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From cfrees at imapmail.org Tue May 25 00:37:17 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 23:37:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht question In-Reply-To: <695B6AD6-142A-456E-8DDC-922E316E41B7@shiftingbalance.org> References: <1C38CB71-30FC-41AA-93C0-7F59B93EE7AF@shiftingbalance.org> <82077262-4182-4A9C-B7C6-CC77D9991A5A@wideopenwest.com> <78CB4DC0-B21C-4B68-894B-BF7867164B89@Web.DE> <4BD1BABA-36A6-40FF-A60B-7EED5086A949@wideopenwest.com> <695B6AD6-142A-456E-8DDC-922E316E41B7@shiftingbalance.org> Message-ID: On Mon 24th May, 2010 at 10:53, Adam M. Goldstein seems to have written: > > On May 24, 2010, at 9:51 AM, wrote: > >> On Mon 24th May, 2010 at 08:29, Herbert Schulz seems to have written: >> >>> >>> On May 24, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: >>> >>>> Am 24.05.2010 um 05:29 schrieb Adam M. Goldstein: >>>> >>>>>> tex4ht.c (2007-04-21-21:07 kpathsea) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Your version of this file is quite old. Looking at the large list of languages supported by Babel it's obvious for a second time that you never updated TeX Live 2009. An update might cure your problem. >>>> >>>> If not, then a problem exists in that you use zsh interactively and the TeX4ht scripts are Bourne shell based. This can indicate that you missed to prepare your system for the Bourne shell. >>>> >>> The version of tex4ht.env I have is >>> >>> % tex4ht.env / .tex4ht (unix) 2009-01-20-20:54 % >>> >>> so I'd guess that Pete is onto something here. >>> >> This seems right except that the version of TL in use seems to be 2009 >> judging by the output from (pdf)TeX itself. That suggests to me that >> there may well be a mixture of different versions of the software >> around. That in itself need not be a problem as long as PATH etc. is >> configured right (e.g. via the TeX distribution preference pane) but >> maybe that isn't happening correctly in this case. >> >> MacTeX modifies the shell environment for sh/bash and tcsh/csh. Does it >> do this for zsh as well? If not, you might see strange mix-ups >> depending on the actual shell environment, mightn't you? Or does the >> fact that pdfTeX etc. are found correctly show that this cannot have >> anything to do with the problem? >> >> You might try: >> echo $PATH >> locate tex4ht.env >> > > > My path has the texbin directory in it, and I set it up using the TeX distribution preference pane. So far as I remember, I downloaded the whole 2009 MacTeX distribution; but maybe I didn't get the complete package but rather a late "beta". Even if texbin is in your PATH, if it isn't first, it is possible that older versions of things are being found before the system ever gets to texbin (if you've got older versions somewhere in your PATH before texbin). > In any case---again Pete has got the answer. Everything runs fine in bash. I will tinker with the zsh .profile or whatever it is. My bash and zsh environments are set up differently, apparently, because the $PATHS are different. bash's environment is modified by MacTeX to put texbin at the front of $PATH but the startup files which customise the shell (in this way) are not read if the shell is non-interactive. So when you change shells and then run htlatex, you are benefiting from MacTeX's customisations but when you run htlatex from a zsh shell, you are not because htlatex is a shell script and so (ba)sh never processes the relevant customisations. - cfr > Thanks everyone for offering so much help! And, this time the problem is solved! Yay! > > Adam > > ------------------ > Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS > -- > z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org > http://www.shiftingbalance.org > http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance > -- > http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 > -- > (914) 637-2717 (msg) > -- > Dept of Philosophy > Iona College > 715 North Avenue > New Rochelle NY 10801 > > From z_californianus-dated-1275176897.5058be at shiftingbalance.org Tue May 25 01:48:12 2010 From: z_californianus-dated-1275176897.5058be at shiftingbalance.org (Adam M. Goldstein) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:48:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Mac-TeX installation questions Message-ID: <92B99E9A-0DEC-40DB-AF23-1C5D36235BF7@shiftingbalance.org> As a result of earlier discussion on the list, it was revealed that my TL 2009 installation wasn't up to date. So, I downloaded the big installation .dmg and ran the installer. Then I got the latest copy of TeX Live Utility, which updated TL manager. There were many, many packages that needed updating and I told it to update all of them. At the end of the updating, it said that the updating failed. I found this: May 24 17:10:24 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[8952]: Standard error from `/usr/texbin/tlmgr --machine-readable --repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet update --list`\ntlmgr: package repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet\nUpdates for tlmgr itself are present.\n===============================================================================\nPlease update the package manager first, via either\n tlmgr update --self\nor by getting the latest updater for Unix-ish systems:\n http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet/update-tlmgr-latest.sh\nand/or Windows systems:\n http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet/update-tlmgr-latest.exe\nThen continue with other updates.\n=============================================================================== May 24 17:10:50 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[8952]: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. May 24 17:11:02 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[8952]: Standard error from `/usr/texbin/tlmgr --machine-readable --repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet update --list`\ntlmgr: package repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet May 24 17:11:28 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Standard error from `/usr/texbin/tlmgr --machine-readable --repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet update --list`\ntlmgr: package repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet May 24 17:11:37 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Standard error from `/usr/texbin/tlmgr --machine-readable --repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet update --list`\ntlmgr: package repository http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet May 24 17:42:36 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Error: `luatex -ini -jobname=dvilualatex -progname=dvilualatex dvilualatex.ini' failed May 24 17:42:36 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: ! ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! May 24 17:42:36 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Error: `luatex -ini -jobname=lualatex -progname=lualatex lualatex.ini' failed May 24 17:43:25 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=latex -progname=latex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *latex.ini' failed May 24 17:43:25 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: ! ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! May 24 17:43:25 agoldstein TeX Live Utility[9337]: Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdflatex -progname=pdflatex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *pdflatex.ini' failed These are the only errors messages I can find in the Console log. Does anyone have any ideas about what might have happened? Adam ------------------ Adam M. Goldstein PhD, MSLIS -- z_californianus at shiftingbalance.org http://www.shiftingbalance.org http://www.twitter.com/shiftingbalance -- http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=180621 -- (914) 637-2717 (msg) -- Dept of Philosophy Iona College 715 North Avenue New Rochelle NY 10801 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I modified the engine and wrote an applescript to invoke it so that one can run it without changing the engine ( http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/file/n5097098/ChkTeX2.engine ChkTeX2.engine and http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/file/n5097098/ChkTeX_for_TeXShop.plist ChkTeX_for_TeXShop.plist ). It works by inserting "% !TEX TS-program = ChkTeX2" in the first line of the document, typesetting and then removing that line. However, that makes the line numbers be one unit off. Thus the engine compensates by using awk to subtract from each line number 1. There is one bug I am aware of, namely when using external files via \input the line numbers for these should not be changed, but the engine does change them. It really would be nice to integrate this functionality to TeXShop in the future, without ugly hacks :) Enjoy! Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-Engine-for-TeXShop-tp5092823p5097098.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From agw at comcast.net Wed May 26 00:14:19 2010 From: agw at comcast.net (Art Werschulz) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 18:14:19 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] collecting solutions to practice problems Message-ID: Hi all. I'm part of a team that's writing a textbook. Each chapter of the book is in a separate LaTeX file (such as "01-intro.tex"). Each chapter has practice problems and exercises. Exercises appear at the end of each chapter. Using the answers package, I have set things up so that we can write \begin{exercises} \begin{ex} The exercise. \begin{soln} Its solution. \end{soln} \end{ex} \begin{ex} Stuff that applies to multi-item exercise. \begin{problist} \item First item. \item Second item. \end{problist} \begin{soln} \begin{solnlist} \item Solution to first item. \item Solution to second item. \end{solnlist} \end{soln} \end{ex} \end{exercises} All very neat and tidy. I'm now trying to deal with practice problems. A practice problem can appear anywhere in the text. However, solutions to practice problems should appear at the end of the chapter, just before the exercises. A practice problem should appear in the LaTeX file as: \begin{prac} Text of the practice problem. \begin{soln} Its solution. \end{soln} \end{prac} For a multi-item practice problem, this should be \begin{prac} Stuff that applies to multi-item exercise. \begin{praclist} \item First item. \item Second item. \end{praclist} \begin{soln} \begin{solnlist} \item Solution to first item. \item Solution to second item. \end{solnlist} \end{soln} \end{prac} Before playing around with this myself, I thought I would see whether anybody else had solved the problem (or knows of a quick solution). Any ideas? Thanks! -- Art Werschulz (8-{)} "Metaphors be with you." -- bumper sticker GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? Internet: agw STRUDEL comcast.net From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Wed May 26 01:02:26 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 19:02:26 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] collecting solutions to practice problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <613C6268-677C-4B23-9F7D-6E0B1C449293@gmail.com> On May 25, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Art Werschulz wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm part of a team that's writing a textbook. Each chapter of the > book > is in a separate LaTeX file (such as "01-intro.tex"). Each chapter > has > practice problems and exercises. Exercises appear at the end of each > chapter. Using the answers package, I have no idea whether that might help, but I am using the probsoln package rather not the way it was spoozed to. So, maybe you can do the same. Regards --schremmer From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Wed May 26 18:47:35 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:47:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 24, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > (2) I would like to make a Front End that would allow the user: > > (a) to open Lalala.tex???but hopefully NOT display it, > (b) to choose which in the list of commands is to be uncommented (Even I know how to do that.) > (c) to typeset Lalala.tex and display Lalala.pdf Instead of commenting/uncommenting individual commands I would use logical variables to switch on and off various features. I would put all of these switches in a master file that sets the switches and then calls lalala.tex. This file now becomes the "interface" and would look something like this: %++++++++++++++++++++++++ %! program = pdflatex \documentclass{...} \usepackage {ifthen} ...load other packages... % define action of booleans \newcommand{\ActivateFeatures}{ \ifthenelse{\boolean{ShowProblem}} {...define action if ShowProblem=true...} {...define action if ShowProblem=false...} ...continue with other booleans... } \begin{document} \setboolean{ShowProblemStatement}{false} % sets value of boolean ShowProblemStatement \setboolean{ShowSolution{true} % sets value of boolean ShowSolution ... \ActivateFeatures % activates features \input{lalala} \end{document} %++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do something similar with my homework collection to choose whether I want the solution to be typeset or not when I make handouts. Themis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Wed May 26 20:03:26 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:03:26 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> On May 26, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On May 24, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> (2) I would like to make a Front End that would allow the user: >> >> (a) to open Lalala.tex???but hopefully NOT display it, >> (b) to choose which in the list of commands is to be uncommented >> (Even I know how to do that.) >> (c) to typeset Lalala.tex and display Lalala.pdf > > Instead of commenting/uncommenting individual commands I would use > logical variables to switch on and off various features. I would > put all of these switches in a master file that sets the switches > and then calls lalala.tex. This file now becomes the "interface" > and would look something like this: > > %++++++++++++++++++++++++ > %! program = pdflatex > \documentclass{...} > \usepackage {ifthen} > ...load other packages... > > % define action of booleans > \newcommand{\ActivateFeatures}{ > \ifthenelse{\boolean{ShowProblem}} > {...define action if ShowProblem=true...} > {...define action if ShowProblem=false...} > ...continue with other booleans... > } > > \begin{document} > > \setboolean{ShowProblemStatement}{false} % sets value of boolean > ShowProblemStatement > \setboolean{ShowSolution{true} % sets value of boolean ShowSolution > ... > \ActivateFeatures % activates features > \input{lalala} > > \end{document} > %++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I do something similar with my homework collection to choose > whether I want the solution to be typeset or not when I make handouts. I think that what I am doing is pretty much along the above lines: Each one of the commands to be commented/uncommented sets a number of booleans elsewhere. The commands themselves make up what I call a control file that then calls a content file that then calls a number of item files in a question base folder which are handled according to the way the booleans were set by the command. In other words, the user sees only the short control file and it works absolutely like a charm. I will upload the whole system for other LaTeX conscious people to use and play with. However, while a lot of non-LaTeX-conscious people might possibly be willing to make a one-click LaTeX installation on their machine, it is a lot more than likely that that will be where they draw the line: these people are not about to be willing to do anything INSIDE a LaTeX file. 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But, while I think I might eventually be able to figure out how to let TeXShop do the work, like talking to LaTeX, I don't have the first clue as to what to do outside the Mac world and this is where I need to find information. Grateful regards --schremmer From chrisptex at googlemail.com Wed May 26 19:43:39 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 19:43:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] beamer handout and eso-pic Message-ID: <3383E878-EDF4-4BC3-9164-F8A05CD917AD@googlemail.com> Hi list, With the following example the placed text is "something" in the background (used viewer search to find it). Is there a way to get in the foreground? --- \documentclass[handout]{beamer} \usepackage{eso-pic} \begin{document} \begin{frame} \AddToShipoutPicture*{\put(100,100){some text}} \end{frame} \end{document} --- Thanks in advance, -- Christian -Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life.- Steve Jobs, 2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbj at linguist.umass.edu Wed May 26 19:26:12 2010 From: kbj at linguist.umass.edu (Kyle Johnson) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:26:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXTable Message-ID: I have recently lost my copies of TeXTable, a wonderful app for making tables that can be pasted into a TeX document. I haven't been able to find it on the web. Does anyone know where it might be living, if it's still available. Are there alternatives that people recommend? (My editor is TextMate.) Thanks, Kyle From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 26 20:41:52 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:41:52 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXTable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 26, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Kyle Johnson wrote: > I have recently lost my copies of TeXTable, a wonderful app for making tables that can be pasted into a TeX document. I haven't been able to find it on the web. Does anyone know where it might be living, if it's still available. > > Are there alternatives that people recommend? (My editor is TextMate.) > > Thanks, > Kyle Howdy, Not a user of TexTable (I would have called it TeXTable :-)) but I happen to have a copy. Are there any table macros for TextMate? I'd be a bit surprised if there wasn't such an item. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It will allow you to cut and paste table cells from Excel or Numbers or Calc to your latex source. It's on CTAN: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/support/csv2latex/ It's now part of TeXShop directly but can be used with any other Applescript aware editor. Alan -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From benoit.rivet at free.fr Wed May 26 21:40:29 2010 From: benoit.rivet at free.fr (Benoit RIVET) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:40:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXTable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 26 mai 2010 ? 19:26, Kyle Johnson a ?crit : > I have recently lost my copies of TeXTable, a wonderful app for making tables that can be pasted into a TeX document. I haven't been able to find it on the web. Does anyone know where it might be living, if it's still available. I have been able to find TexTable-0.2 available from http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche194276-textable.html Feel free to contact me if you can't download the file and I'll put it somewhere where you'll be able to fetch it. Beno?t RIVET From ramonf at hawaii.edu Thu May 27 07:48:31 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop Message-ID: <1274939311732-5107078.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I created a ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop ( http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/file/n5107078/ChkTeX_for_TeXShop.png screenshot ). You can find it in my webpage . Enjoy! Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107078p5107078.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ramonf at hawaii.edu Thu May 27 09:00:50 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 00:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop Message-ID: <1274943650659-5107260.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I wrote a ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop . Here is a screenshot . Enjoy! Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107260p5107260.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lfsequeira at gmail.com Thu May 27 12:12:39 2010 From: lfsequeira at gmail.com (Luis Sequeira) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:12:39 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] beamer handout and eso-pic Message-ID: > Hi list, > > With the following example the placed text is "something" in the background (used viewer search to find it). Is there a way to get in the foreground? > > --- > \documentclass[handout]{beamer} > \usepackage{eso-pic} > > \begin{document} > \begin{frame} > \AddToShipoutPicture*{\put(100,100){some text}} > \end{frame} > \end{document} I'm not a user of beamer myself (I use powerdot), but if I understand correctly, what you are looking for should be easily achieved by using beamer's own \logo command. I found it out right from within TeXShop, using the wonderful Help->Show Help for Package? menu command :-) Here is a quick example: \begin{document} \logo{\put(-200,100)){\rotatebox{45}{\Huge \textcolor{lightgray}{DRAFT}}}} \begin{frame} Some stuff stuff stuff ?. \end{frame} \end{document} Luis Sequeira From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Thu May 27 13:32:55 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:32:55 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] beamer handout and eso-pic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37FD2061-CA02-4DF1-A53A-ACE5320A1518@gmail.com> On May 27, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote: > I found it out right from within TeXShop, using the wonderful Help- > >Show Help for Package? menu command :-) To think that I have had that for how long without knowing! Grateful regards --schremmer From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Thu May 27 14:27:33 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 08:27:33 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> On May 26, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > I think that what I am doing is pretty much along the above lines: Each one of the commands to be commented/uncommented sets a number of booleans elsewhere. The commands themselves make up what I call a control file that then calls a content file that then calls a number of item files in a question base folder which are handled according to the way the booleans were set by the command. > > [...] > Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. Themis From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Thu May 27 15:00:36 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:00:36 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On May 26, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> >> I think that what I am doing is pretty much along the above lines: >> Each one of the commands to be commented/uncommented sets a number >> of booleans elsewhere. The commands themselves make up what I call >> a control file that then calls a content file that then calls a >> number of item files in a question base folder which are handled >> according to the way the booleans were set by the command. >> >> [...] >> > > Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. I > don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to hire an > industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College. But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that would be likely to give me the information I would need. For instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need help there. Regards --schremmer From ramonf at hawaii.edu Thu May 27 16:14:41 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274943650659-5107260.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274943650659-5107260.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1274969681056-5108815.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Ralph Martin found a nasty bug (files with spaces weren't handled, led me to a much bigger bug, i.e., non-ascii characters weren't handled). I think that I have fixed them, so I have uploaded version 1.2: . Let me document one of the fixes here (that way when someone Googles the same problem they might find the solution). Part of the work of "ChkTeX for TeXShop" is handled by an application that uses the Web Page display capabilities of Platypus 4.0 . Now, the two considerations to make here are: 1. The meta tag must be: 2. The output should be piped through iconv: | iconv -f UTF-8 -t LATIN1 --unicode-subst="&#%u;" Both of these fixes are because the web page has to be iso-8859-1 encoded. Enjoy! Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107260p5108815.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cfrees at imapmail.org Thu May 27 17:11:50 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (Dr. Clea F. Rees) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:11:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error Message-ID: I do not usually use Xe(La)TeX except for occasional experiments. However, I've been trying to investigate an issue reported by a user of Venturis ADF and this has thrown up a different problem. My console output contains the following lines: ** WARNING ** Invalid char in fontmap line: 4 ** WARNING ** Invalid map record in fontmap line 6 from pdftex.map. ** WARNING ** -- Ignore the current input buffer: 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? Thanks, cfr From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 27 17:19:35 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:19:35 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5232E821-BCBC-4496-ABF4-DB9B8BF63711@wideopenwest.com> On May 27, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote: > I do not usually use Xe(La)TeX except for occasional experiments. > However, I've been trying to investigate an issue reported by a user of > Venturis ADF and this has thrown up a different problem. > > My console output contains the following lines: > > ** WARNING ** Invalid char in fontmap line: 4 > ** WARNING ** Invalid map record in fontmap line 6 from pdftex.map. > ** WARNING ** -- Ignore the current input buffer: 8r-raw-uagd8a > URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc > > Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? > > Thanks, > cfr Howdy, Can you provide a minimal but compilable tex file that shows this behavior? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Thu May 27 19:32:01 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:32:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: > 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4. None of my MAP file fragments has this line. > > Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/ uag.map! uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi. You can disable exactly this font, you can also switch to the real (Adobe) PostScript fonts. And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX Live 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But I don't know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating the whole package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll need to recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file fragment. Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009 without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones. -- Greetings Pete Don't force it; get a larger hammer. ? Anthony's Law of Force From ramonf at hawaii.edu Thu May 27 20:36:47 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 11:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Alain, If you want the simplicity of TeXShop I would go with TeXworks (it comes with MacTeX 2009 so you may already have a copy, for the Mac, installed). Another multi-platform choice is TeXmakerX http://texmakerx.sourceforge.net/> a branch of TeXmaker (which does not have its own pdf previewer, though). Then of course you would need a TeX installation (TeXLive or MikTeX would do). Enjoy! Ram?n P.S.: I seen others use this term before, but I do not get it. What does OP mean? -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Help-for-Windows-users-of-MacTex-files-tp5095449p5110006.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bhh at xs4all.nl Thu May 27 20:41:09 2010 From: bhh at xs4all.nl (Berend Hasselman) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:41:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 27-05-2010, at 20:36, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > > P.S.: I seen others use this term before, but I do not get it. What does OP > mean? Original Poster: the individual who started the thread. Berend From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Thu May 27 21:40:34 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:40:34 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > >> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. > > Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College. > How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student who will figure it? > But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that would be likely to give me the information I would need. For instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need help there. > I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document Maker and then compiles it. But of course I am not helping here because I really don't know how to do any of this... Themis From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Thu May 27 22:36:15 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:36:15 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha Alain, > > If you want the simplicity of TeXShop I would go with TeXworks > (it comes with MacTeX 2009 so you > may already > have a copy, for the Mac, installed). Another multi-platform choice is > TeXmakerX http://texmakerx.sourceforge.net/> a branch of TeXmaker > (which > does not have its own pdf previewer, though). Then of course you > would need > a TeX installation (TeXLive or MikTeX would do). > > Enjoy! Hooold it. Why is everyone assuming that I, schremmer, want a Windows installation? I don't even have a windows box. In fact, I don't even have a TV or a cell phone. Please bear with me: [A] Say I want the Answer Key to Homework 7 for RAF. Here is what I have to do: (1) Doubleclick RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls > 7.tex (2) Uncomment \AnswerKey (And make sure all other commands are commented) (3) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (Both 7.tex and 7.pdf appear) (4) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (A second time) (5) Click on Print in 7.pdf And that is it. I got my Answer Key to Homework 7. [B] So, what I tell teachers who have a Mac, are not the least interested in LaTex, but who do want the Answer Key to Homework 7 is: a) Download MacTeX from http://www.tug.org/mactex/2009/ and install (including TeXShop) (once and for all) Now forget about it. b) Do the above 5 steps. [C] All I want to know about Windows is what to tell teachers who have a Windows box what to do instead of a). Then I will try to borrow a box and figure out what to tell them for what to do instead of b). [D] It is because a lot of teachers might accept to do a) but will still refuse to do b) that I am thinking of making the FrontEnd. Hopeful regards --The OP (schremmer) From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Thu May 27 22:51:55 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:51:55 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > > On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> >> On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >> >>> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. >>> I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to >>> hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. >> >> Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College. > > How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student > who will figure it? A guaranteed A would not work >> But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that >> would be likely to give me the information I would need. For >> instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows >> world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need >> to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need >> help there. >> > > I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in > windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates > a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document > Maker and then compiles it. I will look up what an executable file is. I visualized the Assessment Document Maker setting the switches in, say, RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls > 7.tex and then after the TYPESET AND DISPLAY PDF button is clicked, the same Assessment Document Maker going about getting LaTeX to compile the file 7.tex calls via. \include{../HOMEWORKS-contents/\jobname} I think I can do it on the Mac but am sure I don't know even how to start on Windows. Regards --schremmer From cfrees at imapmail.org Thu May 27 22:53:04 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:53:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> References: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: > >> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc > > This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4. > None of my MAP file fragments has this line. > Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look anything like any map file entry I've seen. >> >> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? > > > Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map! > uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi. This looks normal. eg: uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc You can disable exactly this font, > you can also switch to the real (Adobe) PostScript fonts. > And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX Live > 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But I don't > know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating the whole > package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll need to > recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file fragment. > > Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009 > without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Don't force it; get a larger hammer. > ? Anthony's Law of Force > From tmatsoukas at gmail.com Thu May 27 23:50:52 2010 From: tmatsoukas at gmail.com (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:52 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78D5CAA0-61CE-4247-A034-4384497F7E9C@gmail.com> On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > A guaranteed A would not work Why are you so pessimistic? Themis From cfrees at imapmail.org Thu May 27 23:54:00 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:54:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: References: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 21:53, cfrees at imapmail.org seems to have written: > On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > >> >> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: >> >>> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc >> >> This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4. >> None of my MAP file fragments has this line. >> > Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look > anything like any map file entry I've seen. So I figured out where this is coming from and am currently generating new map files with updmap-sys. Hopefully this will solve the problem. I guess there are some map file fragments which are OK for pdftex but which xetex doesn't like... Several maps designed for use with context look problematic, though other files apparently intended for use with context look perfectly normal... Thanks, cfr >>> >>> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? >> >> >> Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map! >> uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi. > This looks normal. eg: > uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc > So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? > > Thanks very much, > cfr > >> You can disable exactly this font, you can also switch to the real (Adobe) >> PostScript fonts. >> And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX >> Live 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But >> I don't know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating >> the whole package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll >> need to recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file >> fragment. >> >> Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009 >> without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones. >> >> -- >> Greetings >> >> Pete >> >> Don't force it; get a larger hammer. >> ? Anthony's Law of Force > From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 28 00:49:38 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:49:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: References: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> Message-ID: <16D2A00D-2CE0-40FC-AB88-4A7F872CF3E7@Web.DE> Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is the standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's as clean as you cite, then it could come from some private or local MAP file fragment (I have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of my PostScript 3 printer). XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP file. With TeX Live 2009 a first default variant is installed and sometimes updated: /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/ updmap/pdftex.map. The system's working copy is a symbolic link: /usr/ local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you can use it like the file itself). One command you could try is: wc -l /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ pdftex.map It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify the command like this: grep uagd8a /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ pdftex.map This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It will not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would need to iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command could perform the search: find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \; I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys script had introduced the fault. This could be checked by running: sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys -- disable uag.map sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys -- enable Map=uag.map The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell scripts performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of commands or statements when all the MAP fragments are processed. Somewhere there the error happened. Or later, when the first created output files are prepared for actual use and modified for other convertors. It's very likely that the same error will *not* happen again. When you now, after updmap-sys has finished, invoke again the first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp. 'grep uagd8a', you should see very similar results and no faulty line. If you'll still see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that can't be solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an archive of all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours) -- Greetings Pete The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny..." ? Isaac Asimov From cfrees at imapmail.org Fri May 28 01:34:54 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:34:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error In-Reply-To: <16D2A00D-2CE0-40FC-AB88-4A7F872CF3E7@Web.DE> References: <26DA5BD2-B123-4ED6-89DB-B608DA3EB1F2@Web.DE> <16D2A00D-2CE0-40FC-AB88-4A7F872CF3E7@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Fri 28th May, 2010 at 00:49, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > >> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? > > > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is the > standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's as clean as > you cite, then it could come from some private or local MAP file fragment (I > have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of my PostScript 3 printer). > XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP file. With TeX Live 2009 a first > default variant is installed and sometimes updated: > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map. The > system's working copy is a symbolic link: > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you can > use it like the file itself). One command you could try is: > > wc -l > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map > > It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify the > command like this: > > grep uagd8a > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map > > This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It will > not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would need to > iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command could perform the > search: > > find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name > "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \; Yes. I was rather afraid that might be the answer. > I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys script had > introduced the fault. This could be checked by running: > > sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys > --disable uag.map > sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys > --enable Map=uag.map > > The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell scripts > performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of commands or > statements when all the MAP fragments are processed. Somewhere there the > error happened. Or later, when the first created output files are prepared > for actual use and modified for other convertors. It's very likely that the > same error will *not* happen again. When you now, after updmap-sys has > finished, invoke again the first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp. > 'grep uagd8a', you should see very similar results and no faulty line. If > you'll still see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that > can't be solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and > private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an archive of > all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours) That is very generous (if foolhardy) but thankfully unnecessary. XeTeX apparently dislikes some map files which pdfTeX is quite happy about. These include gentium.map (which should not have been enabled through updmap anyway) and, in my local tree, 8r-urw-urwgothic.map, ec-urw-urwgothic.map, texansi-urw-urwgothic.map and sil-charis.map. Serves me right for experimenting... (At least I didn't *create* any of these, even if I did install most of them...) Anyway, thanks _very_ much for your help and Herb's. None of this solves the problem with Venturis but then I never really expected it to. Incidentally, uag.map is not included in the default updmap.cfg in my install of TL. Is that correct? Thanks again, cfr From cfrees at imapmail.org Fri May 28 01:45:40 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (Dr. Clea F. Rees) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:45:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation? Message-ID: I just uploaded an updated version of cfr-lm to CTAN. The package provides enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. This version is designed for use with version 2.004 of the fonts (currently included in TL 2009). At the moment, the only documentation for the package, which I consider experimental, is contained in the README. I noted in my upload that I would be happy to provide documentation *if* there is any interest in it and so it was suggested that I ask on a general TeX discussion list for users. Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would documentation be helpful? Note that cfr-lm is not currently included in TL because of its experimental status so using it does require installing it first. The text of the upload announcement, which includes a description of the package is included below. Thanks, cfr ...................................................................... The following information was provided by our fellow contributor: Name of contribution: cfr-lm Version number: updated version for Latin Modern 2.004 Author's name: Clea F. Rees Author's email: cfrees imapmail org Location on CTAN: /macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm Summary description: Enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. License type: lppl Announcement text: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The package supports a number of features of the Latin Modern fonts which are not easily accessible via the default (La)TeX support provided in the official distribution. In particular, the package supports the use of the various styles of digits available, small-caps and upright italic shapes, and alternative weights and widths. It also supports variable width typewriter and the ?quotation? font. By default, the package uses proportional oldstyle digits and variable width typewriter but this can be changed by passing appropriate options to the package. The package also supports using e.g. different styles of digits within a document so it is possible to use proportional oldstyle digits by default, say, but tabular lining digits within a particular table. See the README for details. The package requires the official Latin Modern distribution, lmodern, including its (La)TeX support. The package relies on the availability of both the fonts themselves and the official font support files. The package also makes use of the nfssext-cfr package. Only the T1 and TS1 encodings are supported for text fonts. The set up of fonts for mathematics is identical to that provided by Latin Modern. This version has been updated for version 2.004 of the Latin Modern fonts. cfr-lm.sty has been significantly revised to offer more flexible and robust options. The production of the virtual fonts has been tweaked to improve accent placement by adjusting for some peculiarities in the lmodern distribution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This package is located at http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm . More information is at http://tug.ctan.org/pkg/cfr-lm (if the package is new it may take a day for that information to appear). We are supported by the TeX Users Group http://www.tug.org . Please join a users group; see http://www.tug.org/usergroups.html . Notes to maintainers: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package is still considered experimental but has apparently been tested by at least one person besides me. So that doubles the number who've used it. As noted in the README, I am more than willing to write proper documentation for this *if* there is any evidence at all that anybody would be interested in it. Right now I'm afraid proper documentation would only suggest a degree of robustness unjustified by the package itself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 28 02:05:15 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:05:15 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01AEC44E-F080-4BF2-9C9A-7D8651CA5724@alphabyte.co.nz> Will give it a shot. Documentation is always helpful, especially in pdf form, when using texdoc :) Thanks Alan On 28/05/2010, at 11:45 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote: > Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing > so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would > documentation be helpful? > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Fri May 28 02:43:24 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:43:24 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <78D5CAA0-61CE-4247-A034-4384497F7E9C@gmail.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> <78D5CAA0-61CE-4247-A034-4384497F7E9C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <783A1E9F-DC39-49C3-B046-B4215C97AE70@gmail.com> On May 27, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> A guaranteed A would not work > > > Why are you so pessimistic? An aversion to unnecessary risk taking --schremmer From ramonf at hawaii.edu Fri May 28 04:44:31 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1275014671143-5111409.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Alain, Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world, its nice to have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find another excuse to party). I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not yourself. That is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help them as much as possible without having to deal with a different operating system than the one we are accustomed to. Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Help-for-Windows-users-of-MacTex-files-tp5095449p5111409.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Fri May 28 07:13:03 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 01:13:03 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? In-Reply-To: <1275014671143-5111409.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <5DB99C7D-D831-4766-A464-B2D9A5F03060@gmail.com> <0A988479-6EEC-4BC0-966D-BA1CE6E3FCB9@gmail.com> <366C2C07-4435-446D-A344-AE042F0F3ADE@gmail.com> <1274985407701-5110006.post@n2.nabble.com> <1275014671143-5111409.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha Alain, > > Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world, > its nice to > have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find > another > excuse to party). By all means, let's find another excuse. > I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not > yourself. That > is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help > them as > much as possible without having to deal with a different operating > system > than the one we are accustomed to. Well, what I want is indeed for others but, Mac or no-Mac, I sure do not want to go beyond telling them: a) Do this and that to get a LaTeX installation for your OS. (And then you can forget about it.) b) Use the Assessing Document(*) Maker to get a pdf of the assessing document you want (It will do whatever it has to do to produce the pdf entirely behind your back(**)) In other words, I do not intend to bend over backwards. (*) I have yet to find a less terrible name for something that can be a homework, a quiz or an exam. (**) I would even like to try for the FrontEnd to open the control file without displaying it and the previous pdf if any! Regards --schremmer From jmfont at ub.edu Fri May 28 17:34:41 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 17:34:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop Message-ID: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> A colleague seems likely to switch from OzTeX to TeXShop, but I would need some help in (a) convincing her to make the final decision, and (b) guiding her through the switching process. I have never used OzTeX myself, but it seems it does not use the same file structure and so on, and in particular does not store personal files and fonts in the same way as TeXShop or TeXLive do. Thus, I will be grateful to the list if someone can give me advice in these three points: (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems, etc.] (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal files, fonts, configurations, etc.). (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used to. Thanks in advance, JMaF From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 28 18:10:52 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:10:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop In-Reply-To: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> References: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> Message-ID: <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2010 um 17:34 schrieb Josep Maria Font: > (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my > reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems, > etc.] It uses an up-to-date TeX distribution, has pdfTeX, micro-typography, and XeTeX, i.e., direct PDF creation. It's supported. For free, both acquisition and support. And it's not Classic. Which, I think, is not supported on modern intel hardware. No need to find, fetch, and install particular packages, in TeX Live even some batteries (very good fonts, ADF Venturis) are included. Update management!! Hundreds of knowledgeable members on mailing lists without ads for a particularly male public. > > (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one > has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal > files, fonts, configurations, etc.). Keeping it for a while on disk in order to being able to copy this or that file. > > (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used > to. No droplets. Suffering from instead of dancing the time-warp. -- Greetings Pete Let's face it; we don't want a free market economy either. ? James Farley, president, Coca-Cola Export Corp., 1959 From ramonf at hawaii.edu Fri May 28 20:14:43 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop In-Reply-To: <1274969681056-5108815.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1274943650659-5107260.post@n2.nabble.com> <1274969681056-5108815.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1275070483614-5114126.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I uploaded version 1.3. It has a number of new features, including: 1. ChkTeX binary embedded. 2. Tooltips for the warnings. 3. Handling of long lines. 4. Much better layout. As usual you can find it in my web page . Enjoy! Ram?n P.S.: for a while this is the last version, unless there are important bugs to be fixed (and that I can fix). -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107260p5114126.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jmfont at ub.edu Fri May 28 21:15:34 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:15:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop In-Reply-To: <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B@Web.DE> References: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B@Web.DE> Message-ID: Hi Pete, thanks for the tips. Does OzTeX have synchronization ? > [...] without ads for a particularly male public. ??? > No droplets. Suffering from instead of dancing the time-warp. ??? Wikipedia did not help me much here... JMaF From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 28 21:52:14 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:52:14 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop In-Reply-To: References: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B@Web.DE> Message-ID: <029BA075-101A-4EEB-A34E-F6989E029C0D@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2010 um 21:15 schrieb Josep Maria Font: > Wikipedia did not help me > much here... Then, maybe, the IMDB could help. Look under ?The Rocky Horror Picture Show?. You'll love it! Promised. And Susan Sarandon! (And this is the correct Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warp_(song).) -- Greetings Pete "Debugging? Klingons do not debug. Our software does not coddle the weak." From jalex at lse.ac.uk Fri May 28 22:46:50 2010 From: jalex at lse.ac.uk (J. McKenzie Alexander) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:46:50 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX on the iPad (again) In-Reply-To: <20100528190010.BDE6E14EAC0A@email> References: <20100528190010.BDE6E14EAC0A@email> Message-ID: <70FACB3C-67BF-431A-B648-2030EA2A2331@lse.ac.uk> Dear all, I'm sorry to return to what must be a tediously over discussed subject, but are there any plans to bring a version of TeX, even a minimal version, to the iPad? I realize that there might be some concerns about Apple's stance against general purpose interpreted languages on the iPad, but i can hardly believe that would apply to TeX, even though it is Turing complete. (You could play Quake in TeX, but why would you want to?) Jason Sent from my iPad On May 28, 2010, at 8:00 PM, wrote: > Send MacOSX-TeX mailing list submissions to > macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > macosx-tex-request at email.esm.psu.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > macosx-tex-owner at email.esm.psu.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MacOSX-TeX digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Themis Matsoukas) > 2. Re: Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer) > 3. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer) > 4. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org) > 5. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Themis Matsoukas) > 6. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org) > 7. Re: xelatex fontmap error (Peter Dyballa) > 8. Re: xelatex fontmap error (cfrees at imapmail.org) > 9. cfr-lm: users? documentation? (Dr. Clea F. Rees) > 10. Re: cfr-lm: users? documentation? (Alan T Litchfield) > 11. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer) > 12. Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > (Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno) > 13. Re: Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? (Alain Schremmer) > 14. From OzTeX to TeXShop (Josep Maria Font) > 15. Re: From OzTeX to TeXShop (Peter Dyballa) > 16. Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop (Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:40:34 -0400 > From: Themis Matsoukas > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> >> On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >> >>> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. >> >> Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College. >> > > How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student who will figure it? > >> But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that would be likely to give me the information I would need. For instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need help there. >> > > I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document Maker and then compiles it. But of course I am not helping here because I really don't know how to do any of this... > > Themis > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:36:15 -0400 > From: Alain Schremmer > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On May 27, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > >> >> Aloha Alain, >> >> If you want the simplicity of TeXShop I would go with TeXworks >> (it comes with MacTeX 2009 so you >> may already >> have a copy, for the Mac, installed). Another multi-platform choice is >> TeXmakerX http://texmakerx.sourceforge.net/> a branch of TeXmaker >> (which >> does not have its own pdf previewer, though). Then of course you >> would need >> a TeX installation (TeXLive or MikTeX would do). >> >> Enjoy! > > Hooold it. Why is everyone assuming that I, schremmer, want a Windows > installation? I don't even have a windows box. In fact, I don't even > have a TV or a cell phone. Please bear with me: > > [A] Say I want the Answer Key to Homework 7 for RAF. Here is what I > have to do: > > (1) Doubleclick RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls > 7.tex > > (2) Uncomment \AnswerKey (And make sure all other commands are > commented) > > (3) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (Both 7.tex and 7.pdf appear) > > (4) Click on Typeset in 7.tex (A second time) > > (5) Click on Print in 7.pdf > > And that is it. I got my Answer Key to Homework 7. > > [B] So, what I tell teachers who have a Mac, are not the least > interested in LaTex, but who do want the Answer Key to Homework 7 is: > > a) Download MacTeX from http://www.tug.org/mactex/2009/ and install > (including TeXShop) (once and for all) Now forget about it. > b) Do the above 5 steps. > > [C] All I want to know about Windows is what to tell teachers who > have a Windows box what to do instead of a). Then I will try to > borrow a box and figure out what to tell them for what to do instead > of b). > > [D] It is because a lot of teachers might accept to do a) but will > still refuse to do b) that I am thinking of making the FrontEnd. > > Hopeful regards > --The OP (schremmer) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:51:55 -0400 > From: Alain Schremmer > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On May 27, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > >> >> On May 27, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: >> >>> >>> On May 27, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, so you are really looking for a GUI that can run on Windows. >>>> I don't know how to do that. The only suggestion I have is to >>>> hire an industrious undergraduate intern and let him/her figure it. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I teach in a Community College. >> >> How about 25% bonus towards the final grade for the first student >> who will figure it? > > A guaranteed A would not work > >>> But all this OP wanted is to be pointed at a forum or list that >>> would be likely to give me the information I would need. For >>> instance, I don't even know what is the TeXShop of the Windows >>> world, let alone of the Linux world. Then of course, I would need >>> to figure out how it is being used etc and I certainly would need >>> help there. >>> >> >> I don't think you need to know anything about the latex editor in >> windows or linux. What you need is an executable file that creates >> a latex file according to the switches in the Assessment Document >> Maker and then compiles it. > > I will look up what an executable file is. > > I visualized the Assessment Document Maker setting the switches in, > say, RAFv4-0 > HOMEWORKS-controls > 7.tex and then after the > TYPESET AND DISPLAY PDF button is clicked, the same Assessment > Document Maker going about getting LaTeX to compile the file 7.tex > calls via. > > \include{../HOMEWORKS-contents/\jobname} > > I think I can do it on the Mac but am sure I don't know even how to > start on Windows. > > Regards > --schremmer > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:53:04 +0100 (BST) > From: cfrees at imapmail.org > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error > To: Peter Dyballa > Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > >> >> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: >> >>> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc >> >> This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4. >> None of my MAP file fragments has this line. >> > Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look > anything like any map file entry I've seen. >>> >>> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? >> >> >> Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map! >> uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi. > This looks normal. eg: > uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc > So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? > > Thanks very much, > cfr > >> You can disable exactly this font, >> you can also switch to the real (Adobe) PostScript fonts. >> And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX Live >> 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But I don't >> know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating the whole >> package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll need to >> recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file fragment. >> >> Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009 >> without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones. >> >> -- >> Greetings >> >> Pete >> >> Don't force it; get a larger hammer. >> ? Anthony's Law of Force >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:52 -0400 > From: Themis Matsoukas > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: <78D5CAA0-61CE-4247-A034-4384497F7E9C at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> A guaranteed A would not work > > > Why are you so pessimistic? > > Themis > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:54:00 +0100 (BST) > From: cfrees at imapmail.org > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Cc: Peter Dyballa > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 21:53, cfrees at imapmail.org seems to have written: > >> On Thu 27th May, 2010 at 19:32, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: >> >>> >>> Am 27.05.2010 um 17:11 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: >>> >>>> 8r-raw-uagd8a URWGothicL-Demi 4 < uagd8a.pfb 8r.enc >>> >>> This is a very strange entry: how can 8r be raw? The actual fault is the 4. >>> None of my MAP file fragments has this line. >>> >> Yes - that's exactly what XeLaTeX complains about. And it doesn't look >> anything like any map file entry I've seen. > > So I figured out where this is coming from and am currently generating > new map files with updmap-sys. Hopefully this will solve the problem. > > I guess there are some map file fragments which are OK for pdftex but > which xetex doesn't like... Several maps designed for use with context > look problematic, though other files apparently intended for use with > context look perfectly normal... > > Thanks, > cfr > >>>> >>>> Does anyone else see this or know how to solve it? >>> >>> >>> Check /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map! >>> uagd is the URW clone of AvantGarde-Demi. >> This looks normal. eg: >> uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc > uagd8r URWGothicL-Demi "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc > >> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? >> >> Thanks very much, >> cfr >> >>> You can disable exactly this font, you can also switch to the real (Adobe) >>> PostScript fonts. >>> And of course you can rename the faulty MAP file fragment and update TeX >>> Live 2009 for a last time (pre-test of TL 2010 has started obviously). But >>> I don't know whether tlmgr can detect the "missing" file and start updating >>> the whole package. If you correct the MAP file fragment manually you'll >>> need to recreate the MAP files by disabling and re-enabling *some* MAP file >>> fragment. >>> >>> Consider to try a personal set of MAP files from updmap in ~/.texlive2009 >>> without uag.map or with Adobe PS fonts instead of the URW clones. >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> Don't force it; get a larger hammer. >>> ? Anthony's Law of Force >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:49:38 +0200 > From: Peter Dyballa > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error > To: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" > Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: <16D2A00D-2CE0-40FC-AB88-4A7F872CF3E7 at Web.DE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > > Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > >> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? > > > /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is > the standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's > as clean as you cite, then it could come from some private or local > MAP file fragment (I have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of > my PostScript 3 printer). XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP > file. With TeX Live 2009 a first default variant is installed and > sometimes updated: /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/ > updmap/pdftex.map. The system's working copy is a symbolic link: /usr/ > local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you > can use it like the file itself). One command you could try is: > > wc -l /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ > pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ > pdftex.map > > It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify > the command like this: > > grep uagd8a /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ > pdftex.map /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/ > pdftex.map > > This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It > will not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would > need to iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command > could perform the search: > > find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name > "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \; > > I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys > script had introduced the fault. This could be checked by running: > > sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys -- > disable uag.map > sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys -- > enable Map=uag.map > > The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell > scripts performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of > commands or statements when all the MAP fragments are processed. > Somewhere there the error happened. Or later, when the first created > output files are prepared for actual use and modified for other > convertors. It's very likely that the same error will *not* happen > again. When you now, after updmap-sys has finished, invoke again the > first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp. 'grep uagd8a', you > should see very similar results and no faulty line. If you'll still > see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that can't be > solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and > private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an > archive of all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours) > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new > discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny..." > ? Isaac Asimov > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:34:54 +0100 (BST) > From: cfrees at imapmail.org > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xelatex fontmap error > To: Peter Dyballa > Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Fri 28th May, 2010 at 00:49, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > >> >> Am 27.05.2010 um 22:53 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: >> >>> So how can I figure out where the problematic lines are coming from? >> >> >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/avantgar/uag.map is the >> standard MAP file fragment for the AvantGarde clone font. If it's as clean as >> you cite, then it could come from some private or local MAP file fragment (I >> have half a dozen of them, one for the fonts of my PostScript 3 printer). >> XeTeX's xdvipdfmx uses the pdftex.map MAP file. With TeX Live 2009 a first >> default variant is installed and sometimes updated: >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map. The >> system's working copy is a symbolic link: >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map (you can >> use it like the file itself). One command you could try is: >> >> wc -l >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map >> >> It will tell the number of lines the files have. Then you could modify the >> command like this: >> >> grep uagd8a >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map >> >> This will tell you the uagd8a font mappings used in both MAP files. It will >> not reveal from where the faulty line comes. For this you would need to >> iterate over all enabled MAP file fragments. This command could perform the >> search: >> >> find /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/map -type f -name >> "*.map" -exec grep uagd8a {} /dev/null \; > > Yes. I was rather afraid that might be the answer. > >> I presume that no culprit will be found. Probably the updmap-sys script had >> introduced the fault. This could be checked by running: >> >> sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys >> --disable uag.map >> sudo sh -x /usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/universal-darwin/updmap-sys >> --enable Map=uag.map >> >> The latter command will (hopefully) show in detail how the shell scripts >> performs it's job. You will see a lot of similar blocks of commands or >> statements when all the MAP fragments are processed. Somewhere there the >> error happened. Or later, when the first created output files are prepared >> for actual use and modified for other convertors. It's very likely that the >> same error will *not* happen again. When you now, after updmap-sys has >> finished, invoke again the first two command, starting with 'wc -l' resp. >> 'grep uagd8a', you should see very similar results and no faulty line. If >> you'll still see that faulty line, then we'll really have a problem that >> can't be solved that easily. It would need examination of all your local and >> private MAP file fragments. For example by sending me privately an archive of >> all these files... (which I would check in nine or ten hours) > > That is very generous (if foolhardy) but thankfully unnecessary. > > XeTeX apparently dislikes some map files which pdfTeX is quite happy > about. These include gentium.map (which should not have been enabled > through updmap anyway) and, in my local tree, 8r-urw-urwgothic.map, > ec-urw-urwgothic.map, texansi-urw-urwgothic.map and sil-charis.map. > Serves me right for experimenting... (At least I didn't *create* any of > these, even if I did install most of them...) > > Anyway, thanks _very_ much for your help and Herb's. None of this > solves the problem with Venturis but then I never really expected it to. > > Incidentally, uag.map is not included in the default updmap.cfg in my > install of TL. Is that correct? > > Thanks again, > cfr > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:45:40 +0100 (BST) > From: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" > Subject: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I just uploaded an updated version of cfr-lm to CTAN. The package > provides enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. This version is > designed for use with version 2.004 of the fonts (currently included in > TL 2009). > > At the moment, the only documentation for the package, which I consider > experimental, is contained in the README. I noted in my upload that I > would be happy to provide documentation *if* there is any interest in it > and so it was suggested that I ask on a general TeX discussion list for > users. > > Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing > so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would > documentation be helpful? > > Note that cfr-lm is not currently included in TL because of its > experimental status so using it does require installing it first. > > The text of the upload announcement, which includes a description of > the package is included below. > > Thanks, > cfr > > ...................................................................... > > The following information was provided by our fellow contributor: > > Name of contribution: cfr-lm > Version number: updated version for Latin Modern 2.004 > Author's name: Clea F. Rees > Author's email: cfrees imapmail org > Location on CTAN: /macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm > Summary description: Enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. > License type: lppl > > Announcement text: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The package supports a number of features of the Latin > Modern fonts which are not easily accessible via the default > (La)TeX support provided in the official distribution. In > particular, the package supports the use of the various > styles of digits available, small-caps and upright italic > shapes, and alternative weights and widths. It also supports > variable width typewriter and the ???quotation??? font. > > By default, the package uses proportional oldstyle digits > and variable width typewriter but this can be changed by > passing appropriate options to the package. The package also > supports using e.g. different styles of digits within a > document so it is possible to use proportional oldstyle > digits by default, say, but tabular lining digits within a > particular table. See the README for details. > > The package requires the official Latin Modern distribution, > lmodern, including its (La)TeX support. The package relies > on the availability of both the fonts themselves and the > official font support files. The package also makes use of > the nfssext-cfr package. > > Only the T1 and TS1 encodings are supported for text fonts. > The set up of fonts for mathematics is identical to that > provided by Latin Modern. > > This version has been updated for version 2.004 of the Latin > Modern fonts. cfr-lm.sty has been significantly revised to > offer more flexible and robust options. The production of > the virtual fonts has been tweaked to improve accent > placement by adjusting for some peculiarities in the lmodern > distribution. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This package is located at > http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm > . More information is at > http://tug.ctan.org/pkg/cfr-lm > (if the package is new it may take a day for that information to > appear). We are supported by the TeX Users Group http://www.tug.org . > Please join a users group; see http://www.tug.org/usergroups.html . > > Notes to maintainers: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Package is still considered experimental but has apparently been tested by at least one person besides me. So that doubles the number who've used it. > > As noted in the README, I am more than willing to write proper documentation for this *if* there is any evidence at all that anybody would be interested in it. Right now I'm afraid proper documentation would only suggest a degree of robustness unjustified by the package itself. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:05:15 +1200 > From: Alan T Litchfield > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] cfr-lm: users? documentation? > To: "Dr. Clea F. Rees" , TeX on Mac OS X Mailing > List > Message-ID: <01AEC44E-F080-4BF2-9C9A-7D8651CA5724 at alphabyte.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Will give it a shot. Documentation is always helpful, especially in > pdf form, when using texdoc :) > > Thanks > Alan > > On 28/05/2010, at 11:45 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote: > >> Do you currently use cfr-lm? If not, would you be interested in doing >> so? If you use it or would be interested in doing so, would >> documentation be helpful? >> > > -- > Alan T Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:43:24 -0400 > From: Alain Schremmer > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: <783A1E9F-DC39-49C3-B046-B4215C97AE70 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > On May 27, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > >> On May 27, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote: >> >>> A guaranteed A would not work >> >> >> Why are you so pessimistic? > > An aversion to unnecessary risk taking > --schremmer > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno > Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu > Message-ID: <1275014671143-5111409.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Aloha Alain, > > Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world, its nice to > have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find another > excuse to party). > > I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not yourself. That > is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help them as > much as possible without having to deal with a different operating system > than the one we are accustomed to. > > Ram??n > -- > View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Help-for-Windows-users-of-MacTex-files-tp5095449p5111409.html > Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 01:13:03 -0400 > From: Alain Schremmer > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Help for Windows users of MacTex files? > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > On May 27, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > >> >> Aloha Alain, >> >> Glad to hear that you have not jumped ship to the Windows world, >> its nice to >> have you around. We will have to cancel the farewell party (or find >> another >> excuse to party). > > By all means, let's find another excuse. > >> I understood that you wanted recommendations for others, not >> yourself. That >> is why I suggested multi-platform stuff, so that way you can help >> them as >> much as possible without having to deal with a different operating >> system >> than the one we are accustomed to. > > Well, what I want is indeed for others but, Mac or no-Mac, I sure do > not want to go beyond telling them: > > a) Do this and that to get a LaTeX installation for your OS. (And > then you can forget about it.) > b) Use the Assessing Document(*) Maker to get a pdf of the assessing > document you want (It will do whatever it has to do to produce the > pdf entirely behind your back(**)) > > In other words, I do not intend to bend over backwards. > > (*) I have yet to find a less terrible name for something that can be > a homework, a quiz or an exam. > (**) I would even like to try for the FrontEnd to open the control > file without displaying it and the previous pdf if any! > > Regards > --schremmer > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 17:34:41 +0200 > From: Josep Maria Font > Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop > To: MacOSX TeX list > Message-ID: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67 at ub.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > A colleague seems likely to switch from OzTeX to TeXShop, but I would need some help in (a) convincing her to make the final decision, and (b) guiding her through the switching process. I have never used OzTeX myself, but it seems it does not use the same file structure and so on, and in particular does not store personal files and fonts in the same way as TeXShop or TeXLive do. Thus, I will be grateful to the list if someone can give me advice in these three points: > > (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems, etc.] > > (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal files, fonts, configurations, etc.). > > (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used to. > > Thanks in advance, > > > JMaF > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:10:52 +0200 > From: Peter Dyballa > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Message-ID: <9911D1D0-1AC5-4A06-80E6-81678A83564B at Web.DE> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > > Am 28.05.2010 um 17:34 schrieb Josep Maria Font: > >> (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my >> reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation problems, >> etc.] > > It uses an up-to-date TeX distribution, has pdfTeX, micro-typography, > and XeTeX, i.e., direct PDF creation. It's supported. For free, both > acquisition and support. And it's not Classic. Which, I think, is not > supported on modern intel hardware. No need to find, fetch, and > install particular packages, in TeX Live even some batteries (very > good fonts, ADF Venturis) are included. Update management!! Hundreds > of knowledgeable members on mailing lists without ads for a > particularly male public. > >> >> (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one >> has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal >> files, fonts, configurations, etc.). > > Keeping it for a while on disk in order to being able to copy this or > that file. > >> >> (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used >> to. > > > No droplets. Suffering from instead of dancing the time-warp. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Let's face it; we don't want a free market economy either. > ? James Farley, president, Coca-Cola Export Corp., 1959 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno > Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: ChkTeX GUI for TeXShop > To: macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu > Message-ID: <1275070483614-5114126.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Aloha, > > I uploaded version 1.3. It has a number of new features, including: > > 1. ChkTeX binary embedded. > 2. Tooltips for the warnings. > 3. Handling of long lines. > 4. Much better layout. > > As usual you can find it in my web page > . > > Enjoy! > > Ram??n > > P.S.: for a while this is the last version, unless there are important bugs > to be fixed > (and that I can fix). > -- > View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/ChkTeX-GUI-for-TeXShop-tp5107260p5114126.html > Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > > -------------------------- Helpful Info -------------------------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > > > > End of MacOSX-TeX Digest, Vol 31, Issue 22 > ****************************************** Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/planningAndCorporatePolicy/legalandComplianceTeam/legal/disclaimer.htm From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Sat May 29 00:09:32 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 08:09:32 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] From OzTeX to TeXShop In-Reply-To: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> References: <24BE5764-941A-4834-A5A4-7907ABEB1A67@ub.edu> Message-ID: <513122B2-F0FE-4D3D-A8F8-D45C84993AD0@mq.edu.au> Hello Josep, On 29/05/2010, at 1:34 AM, Josep Maria Font wrote: > A colleague seems likely to switch from OzTeX to TeXShop, but I > would need some help in (a) convincing her to make the final > decision, and (b) guiding her through the switching process. Wow. I wasn't aware that OzTeX was still available. http://www.trevorrow.com/news/index.html This indicates that Andrew Trevorrow is indeed still active, and perhaps catching up with modern developments. > I have never used OzTeX myself, but it seems it does not use the > same file structure and so on, and in particular does not store > personal files and fonts in the same way as TeXShop or TeXLive do. > Thus, I will be grateful to the list if someone can give me advice > in these three points: > > (a) Reasons why one should prefer TeXShop to OzTeX nowadays [my > reason: I would be able to give her advice on installation > problems, etc.] The basic reasons are that: 1. OzTeX v5.2 is dated 2004 so has not advanced in more than 5 years. There has been a lot of advancement since then. TeXshop is fully compatible with all these, but OzTeX is not. 2. OzTeX uses the TeX--> Dvips--> Ghostscript method of producing PDF output from LaTeX source. TeXshop defaults to using pdfTeX as the main engine. This could cause difficulties for collaboration, if the people involved use techniques based solely on one or the other. e.g., format of graphics, different input encodings, use of \special commands for direct use of PS or PDF. Such differences are not insurmountable, but they do add an extra layer of complexity to either the processing or the management of a project with multiple styles of input material. > > (b) Special operations one has to perform and special problems one > has to care about when switching from OzTeX to TeXShop (personal > files, fonts, configurations, etc.). This is hard to answer without detailed experience using both systems. I remember that OzTeX allowed you to use a TDS compliant file system, though it had its own format to start with. Presumably this is still the case. If your colleague has not used a TDS structure before, then this will take a little bit of getting used to where all the packages and documentation can be found. A MacTeX distribution now comes with many more support programs than OzTeX provides. > > (c) Main working differences one will have to learn and become used > to. Item 2. above would be relevant to this, I'd guess. One thing here is that TeXshop does not have a DVI viewer. Computers are so fast that in TeX+Ghostscript mode, this step is omitted. Processing goes straight to the running of the dvips --> Ghostscript --> PDF phase. This does take a few tenths of seconds, so it *may* seem a bit slower that OzTeX producing and showing DVI. On the other hand, so far as I know, modern fonts are not designed for viewing with a DVI viewer. So there may be some difficulties there --- this used to be about having bitmapped displays. But Trevorrow used to be a pretty good developer for Mac software, so he has probably solved that difficulty, by passing it to the operating system --- but no updates in 6 years means that a lot of improved font technology may not be properly supported. > > Thanks in advance, > > > JMaF Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 01:04:06 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (Dr. Clea F. Rees) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 00:04:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX Message-ID: Could somebody point me towards documentation explaining the way that Xe(La)TeX finds and uses fonts and/or typesets characters? I'm specifically interested in a couple of things: 1) persuading XeLaTeX to typeset accented characters correctly when using non-default fonts (e.g. ^W, ^Y, ^w, ^y, "W, "w etc. in Skia, Venturis ADF, Hoefler Text etc. as opposed to Latin Modern); 2) identifying which font files XeLaTeX is using in a particular run (pdfTeX gives at least some of this information e.g. it lists the TTF or PFB files it used but I don't know how to get XeLaTeX to do this); 3) understanding how to work out how to access particular features in OTF fonts e.g. OSF in Venturis ADF (as opposed to OSF in Skia which seems unproblematic), for example. I'd really like a pointer to some straightforward documentation. fontspec and the font-info are not giving me the answers I had hoped for! Thanks very much, cfr (And apologies for having so many questions and offering no answers!) From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Sat May 29 01:19:48 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:19:48 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Clea, On 29/05/2010, at 9:04 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote: > Could somebody point me towards documentation explaining the way that > Xe(La)TeX finds and uses fonts and/or typesets characters? > > I'm specifically interested in a couple of things: > > 1) persuading XeLaTeX to typeset accented characters correctly when > using non-default fonts (e.g. ^W, ^Y, ^w, ^y, "W, "w etc. in > Skia, Venturis ADF, Hoefler Text etc. as opposed to Latin Modern); These are all Unicode characters, so provided the font supports them and you have loaded \usepackage{fontspec} (which in turn calls \usepackage{xunicode} ) then it should just work with the usual TeX accent macros: \^W \^Y \^w \^y \"W \"w etc. Of course you need to use fontspec's commands for setting the fonts to be used in your document. > > 2) identifying which font files XeLaTeX is using in a particular run > (pdfTeX gives at least some of this information e.g. it lists the TTF > or PFB files it used but I don't know how to get XeLaTeX to do this); XeTeX doesn't do it directly. Rather it passes this task to the OS, which gets it from /Library/Fonts just like any other Mac application. > > 3) understanding how to work out how to access particular features in > OTF fonts e.g. OSF in Venturis ADF (as opposed to OSF in Skia which > seems unproblematic), for example. Join the XeTeX mailing list. This is all discussed there, so you can find it in the Archives. http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex > > I'd really like a pointer to some straightforward documentation. > fontspec and the font-info are not giving me the answers I had hoped > for! The XeTeX list is the correct place for such a question. > > Thanks very much, > cfr > > (And apologies for having so many questions and offering no answers!) No apology needed for that. :-) Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 02:26:37 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 01:26:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 09:19, Ross Moore seems to have written: > Hello Clea, > > On 29/05/2010, at 9:04 AM, Dr. Clea F. Rees wrote: > >> Could somebody point me towards documentation explaining the way that >> Xe(La)TeX finds and uses fonts and/or typesets characters? >> >> I'm specifically interested in a couple of things: >> >> 1) persuading XeLaTeX to typeset accented characters correctly when >> using non-default fonts (e.g. ^W, ^Y, ^w, ^y, "W, "w etc. in >> Skia, Venturis ADF, Hoefler Text etc. as opposed to Latin Modern); > > These are all Unicode characters, so provided the font supports them > and you have loaded \usepackage{fontspec} > (which in turn calls \usepackage{xunicode} ) (Actually, I think xunicode needs to be loaded separately.) > then it should just work with the usual TeX accent macros: > > \^W \^Y \^w \^y \"W \"w etc. > > Of course you need to use fontspec's commands for > setting the fonts to be used in your document. > Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding: % !TEX TS-program = XeLaTeX % !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode \listfiles \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=tex-text} \usepackage{xunicode} \pagestyle{empty} \begin{document} \def\fytest{ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz\\ff ffi ffl fi fl \^A\^E\^I\^O\^U\^W\^Y \^a\^e\^i\^o\^u\^w\^y \"A\"E\"I\"O\"U \"a\"e\"i\"o\"u \AE\OE\ae\oe{\ss} \textcopyright\pounds\\??????? ??????? ???? ???? 0123456789} \noindent Default (Latin Modern):\\ \fytest\\ Skia:\\ {\fontspec[Numbers=Lining]{Skia}\fytest}\\ {\fontspec[Numbers=OldStyle]{Skia}\fytest}\\ Hoefler Text:\\ {\fontspec{Hoefler Text}\fytest}\\ Venturis ADF:\\ {\fontspec{Venturis ADF}\fytest}\\ \end{document} *should* do the trick? It doesn't seem to except for Latin Modern. Skia and Hoefler Text include some missing characters; Venturis gives frankly weird output. I take it the missing characters (^W, ^Y etc.) are due to Skia, Hoefler and Venturis lacking them. So unlike TeX, XeTeX does not or cannot create accented glyphs on the fly? But the weird output I see from Venturis isn't explained by this - that looks more like an encoding problem which is why I wondered if I needed to provide more information. >> >> 2) identifying which font files XeLaTeX is using in a particular run >> (pdfTeX gives at least some of this information e.g. it lists the TTF >> or PFB files it used but I don't know how to get XeLaTeX to do this); > > XeTeX doesn't do it directly. > Rather it passes this task to the OS, which gets it from > /Library/Fonts just like any other Mac application. > Which means that XeTeX on a Mac will *never* use type 1 fonts, TFM files etc.? (So it reads pdftex.map to no real purpose?) >> >> 3) understanding how to work out how to access particular features in >> OTF fonts e.g. OSF in Venturis ADF (as opposed to OSF in Skia which >> seems unproblematic), for example. > > Join the XeTeX mailing list. > This is all discussed there, so you can find it in the Archives. > > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex > Thanks. >> >> I'd really like a pointer to some straightforward documentation. >> fontspec and the font-info are not giving me the answers I had hoped >> for! > > The XeTeX list is the correct place for such a question. > Thanks. - cfr PS I'm not sure why my name isn't appearing but only my email address - it is there in my config and appears in the "To:" when people reply to me. I just updated to the latest version (after some build wobbles) so maybe that will improve things... >> >> Thanks very much, >> cfr >> >> (And apologies for having so many questions and offering no answers!) > > No apology needed for that. :-) > > > Hope this helps, > > Ross > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au > Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 > Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 > Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From msharpe at ucsd.edu Sat May 29 03:18:59 2010 From: msharpe at ucsd.edu (Michael Sharpe) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:18:59 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] hyperref links viewed on ipad/ipod Message-ID: When viewing a pdf file with a link generated by hyperref using the following short tex file, the link is active in pdf viewers and desktop web browsers, but not in Safari on the ipod touch, and I'm told Safari on the ipad has the same issues. \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} \title{Brief Article} \author{\href{http://math.ucsd.edu}{The Author}} \begin{document} \maketitle \end{document} Does anyone know of a reference for these issues, or if there are workarounds? Michael From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 29 10:53:20 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 10:53:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22940F4A-1D4B-4BC5-AD77-B78139107507@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2010 um 01:04 schrieb Dr. Clea F. Rees: > 2) identifying which font files XeLaTeX is using in a particular run > (pdfTeX gives at least some of this information e.g. it lists the TTF > or PFB files it used but I don't know how to get XeLaTeX to do this); You can make XeTeX stop at outputting the XDV file. Then invoke xdvipdfmx manually with some level of verbosity and it will give you some information on which font files are actually used. > > 3) understanding how to work out how to access particular features in > OTF fonts e.g. OSF in Venturis ADF (as opposed to OSF in Skia which > seems unproblematic), for example. You can only select features which exist in the font. XeTeX comes with the two test files /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/xetex/xetexfontinfo/aat-info.tex /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/tex/xetex/xetexfontinfo/opentype- info.tex which you can copy into your working area and edit and compile them. Then the PDF output file will list information on the font you've chosen to check. > > I'd really like a pointer to some straightforward documentation. > fontspec and the font-info are not giving me the answers I had hoped > for! Of what? OT/TT font specification? TeX Live comes with the two utilities otfinfo and ttfdump, Apple provides on its developers connection (http://developer.apple.com/) the Font Tools suite, Linotype (http://www.linotype.com/) offers its Linotype FontExplorer X, from http://earthlingsoft.net comes the UnicodeChecker. The XeTeX home page (http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=XeTeX& ) has some links to documentation on XeTeX. > (And apologies for having so many questions and offering no answers!) Without questions some members might start feeling old and obsolete... -- Greetings Pete To be is to do. ? I. Kant To do is to be. ? A. Sartre Yabba-Dabba-Doo! ? F. Flintstone From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 29 11:12:46 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:12:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2010 um 02:26 schrieb : > Skia and Hoefler Text include some missing characters; Venturis gives > frankly weird output. No, it's rather OK. Not available glyphs are substituted with U+FFFF, which, depending on the font's design, can have different shapes. > > I take it the missing characters (^W, ^Y etc.) are due to Skia, > Hoefler > and Venturis lacking them. So unlike TeX, XeTeX does not or cannot > create accented glyphs on the fly? It can! You've seen it in all fonts you used in your test file. The problem with Venturis ADF is that the font does not have combining accents: otfinfo -g /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/arkandis/ venturis/VenturisADF-Regular.otf | wc -l 263 otfinfo -g /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/arkandis/ venturis/VenturisADF-Regular.otf | grep -i combin | wc -l 0 So you only have the pre-composed glyphs available. LM, Skia, Hoefler, and others are real Unicode fonts and not just a restricted PostScript font file wrapped into OTF clothes with automatically created tables in their pockets with some standard features. > > Which means that XeTeX on a Mac will *never* use type 1 fonts, TFM > files etc.? (So it reads pdftex.map to no real purpose?) It tries to avoid it. TFM (not VF) is somehow supported (because it's some TeX), PostScript fonts can also be used. Using both on purpose can be sign of a brain damage: these fonts have no tables which allow typesetting text. They just have the dimensions of the glyphs' boxes and sometimes some kerning information. No way to switch to sub- or superscripts, alternatives, substitutes, ligatures... Using TFM or PostScript fonts in XeTeX is like using Fred Flintstone's car. (Although its time seems to return.) -- Greetings Pete A morning without coffee is like something without something else. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 29 11:17:18 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:17:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B1520B9-1841-4695-AEA4-440C46586E1B@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2010 um 02:26 schrieb : > PS I'm not sure why my name isn't appearing but only my email > address - When responding your name is gone, when sending an initial eMail it's there. -- Greetings Pete Make it simple, as simple as possible but no simpler. ? Albert Einstein From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 29 11:46:51 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 02:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Webpage Helper 1.0 Message-ID: <1275126411210-5115942.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, "TeXShop Webpage Helper" is a handler for the protocol (scheme name) ?texshop:?. This allows you to have hyperlinks in web pages that when clicked launch TeXShop (in the foreground or background as indicated), open the indicated TeX document in TeXShop, which scrolls to the given line and makes the given selection. Notes: 1. For security reasons it cannot instruct TeXShop to typeset documents! 2. If you double click the application it will do nothing. It runs quickly in the background acting as the glue between a web browser and TeXShop. 3. The eponymous folder "TeXShop Webpage Helper" must (with its contents) be in the main Applications folder (/Applications) for the examples in the manual to work. 4. There is a copy of "TeXShop Webpage Helper" in the application bundle of "ChkTeX for TeXShop" , which by the way is up to version 1.3.1. I can think of writing a droplet that generates a web page that has links to all the TeX files in a folder dropped on the droplet. That way you would have a hyperlinked index of all the files in a project. One could even have it parse the TeX files and generate hyperlinks for sections, figures, etc. When working with a colleague you could send them an email with a link to the exact place in a shared document (say through DropBox) that you want them to open. I could write a TeXShop macro that when invoked it would place a hyperlink to the selection in the front document in the clipboard. One could write a TeXShop macro that generates a hyperlinked outline of the front document. Another idea would be to write a parser for the TeX error log that generates a hyperlinked version of it. If you have ideas for its use please share. Enjoy! Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/TeXShop-Webpage-Helper-1-0-tp5115942p5115942.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 29 11:57:45 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 02:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request Message-ID: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, I would like to see the following implemented in TeXShop. 1. An embedded web browser (nothing fancy only to display one web page at a time), with WebKit this should be easy (right?). 2. If the embedded web browser is included, some basic applescript capabilities for it added to the TeXShop applescript dictionary (load URL, scroll to a given place). 3. A "texshop:" web protocol handler as part of the TeXShop distribution (I already wrote one that could serve at least as a prototype ). Thanks, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/TeXShop-Feature-Request-tp5115954p5115954.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From chrisptex at googlemail.com Sat May 29 12:27:28 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:27:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] beamer handout and eso-pic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 27.05.2010 um 12:12 schrieb Luis Sequeira: >> Hi list, >> >> With the following example the placed text is "something" in the background (used viewer search to find it). Is there a way to get in the foreground? >> >> --- >> \documentclass[handout]{beamer} >> \usepackage{eso-pic} >> >> \begin{document} >> \begin{frame} >> \AddToShipoutPicture*{\put(100,100){some text}} >> \end{frame} >> \end{document} > > I'm not a user of beamer myself (I use powerdot), but if I understand correctly, what you are looking for should be easily achieved by using beamer's own \logo command. > I found it out right from within TeXShop, using the wonderful Help->Show Help for Package? menu command :-) > > > Here is a quick example: > > \begin{document} > > \logo{\put(-200,100)){\rotatebox{45}{\Huge \textcolor{lightgray}{DRAFT}}}} > > \begin{frame} > Some stuff stuff stuff ?. > \end{frame} > \end{document} Thanks, but I just used a small hack of eso-pic within the preamble, which was suggested to me as follows: \let\AtBeginShipoutUpperLeft\AtBeginShipoutUpperLeftForeground Best -- Christian -I'm the only person I know that's lost a quarter of a billion dollars in one year.... It's very character-building.- Steve Jobs, 2004 From chrisptex at googlemail.com Sat May 29 12:33:49 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:33:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question Message-ID: Hi All, there are any plans to bring the following features to TeXShop: 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. 2) Project Drawer: Like a side panel where all files, which belong to certain project, could be organized (like in TextMate) 3) Projects: Files could be organized in projects like in TextMate or TeXnicCenter Thanks in advance, -- Christian -Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life.- Steve Jobs, 2005 From abellaic at math.jussieu.fr Sat May 29 12:31:34 2010 From: abellaic at math.jussieu.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:31:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts Message-ID: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> Dear all, I am trying to type a few lines in hebrew using \usepackage[french,hebrew]{babel} \usepackage{hebcal} as shown in The LaTeX Companion (2nd French edition). But I get the following error message ! Font LHE/cmr/m/n/10=jerus10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. before pdftex any attempt to read the text file. I use TeXLive 2008, which contains only two copies of jerus.htf but no fonts. Some research with Google shows that many people have tried to found the jerus font, but nobody has succeeded. Any help would be welcome Andr? Bella?che From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 29 13:08:04 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 07:08:04 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> References: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Andr? Bella?che wrote: > Dear all, > > I am trying to type a few lines in hebrew using > > \usepackage[french,hebrew]{babel} > \usepackage{hebcal} > > as shown in The LaTeX Companion (2nd French edition). > > But I get the following error message > > ! Font LHE/cmr/m/n/10=jerus10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. > > before pdftex any attempt to read the text file. I use TeXLive 2008, which contains only two copies of jerus.htf but no fonts. > > Some research with Google shows that many people have tried to found the jerus font, but nobody has succeeded. > > Any help would be welcome > > Andr? Bella?che The same with TL2009 and TL2010 prerelease. http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/TeX-CTAN/language/hebrew/hebtex/unix/new/hebfonts.tar.gz.308893.html One can really find them on some CTAN mirrors but on CTAN itself they seem to be renamed PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive mailing list Victor > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > > -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 15:16:06 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:16:06 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> On May 29, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > I would like to see the following implemented in TeXShop. > > 1. An embedded web browser (nothing fancy only to display one web > page at a > time), with WebKit this should be easy (right?). > 2. If the embedded web browser is included, some basic applescript > capabilities for it added to the TeXShop applescript dictionary > (load URL, > scroll to a given place). > 3. A "texshop:" web protocol handler as part of the TeXShop > distribution (I > already wrote one that could serve at least as a prototype > index.html#TeXShopWebpageHelper>). What does the people think? Should I add it to the thread "List of feature requests on this list" (Koch says he takes a look at it when he tries to figure out what to do with his free time. He never said what happens after he took a look though.) Regards --schremmer From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 15:17:45 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:17:45 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> On May 29, 2010, at 6:33 AM, Christian Pleul wrote: > Hi All, > > there are any plans to bring the following features to TeXShop: > > 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. > > 2) Project Drawer: Like a side panel where all files, which belong > to certain project, could be organized (like in TextMate) > > 3) Projects: Files could be organized in projects like in TextMate > or TeXnicCenter What does the people think? Should I add it to the thread "List of feature requests on this list" Regards --schremmer From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 15:21:58 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:21:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: References: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <204CEBCB-C83F-49F4-867F-6D352652D476@gmail.com> On May 29, 2010, at 7:08 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Andr? Bella?che > wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I am trying to type a few lines in hebrew using >> >> \usepackage[french,hebrew]{babel} >> \usepackage{hebcal} >> >> as shown in The LaTeX Companion (2nd French edition). >> >> But I get the following error message >> >> ! Font LHE/cmr/m/n/10=jerus10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) >> file not found. >> >> before pdftex any attempt to read the text file. I use TeXLive >> 2008, which contains only two copies of jerus.htf but no fonts. >> >> Some research with Google shows that many people have tried to >> found the jerus font, but nobody has succeeded. >> >> Any help would be welcome >> >> Andr? Bella?che > > > The same with TL2009 and TL2010 prerelease. > > http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/TeX-CTAN/language/hebrew/hebtex/unix/ > new/hebfonts.tar.gz.308893.html > > One can really find them on some CTAN mirrors but on CTAN itself they > seem to be renamed > > PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive > mailing list Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% of my queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! Dismayed regards --schremmer From jmfont at ub.edu Sat May 29 15:31:07 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:31:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5FC415E0-AAB5-4775-BEAE-F92922B80020@ub.edu> On the recent feature requests suggested by Christian Pleul: >> 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. Would be nice if this meant that each tab affects the whole typesetting process: viewer, log file, etc. Having all in parallel would be nice. Now, you can have several documents open and typeset them in succession but only one log (sorry, one console) is kept... JMaF From vivrii at gmail.com Sat May 29 15:42:30 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:42:30 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: <204CEBCB-C83F-49F4-867F-6D352652D476@gmail.com> References: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> <204CEBCB-C83F-49F4-867F-6D352652D476@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: >> >> PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive mailing >> list > > Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% of my > queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! > Alain, the problem with this particular query is that the people who should answer it are not subscribers of this list. If I have not forwarded it to TL list situation would not be clarified: With the help of Robin Fairbanks it was found on CTAN ftp://ftp.ctan.org//pub/tex-archive/language/hebrew/hebtex/unix/new/hebfonts.tar.gz but they will not be a part of TL as (citation of RB) none of hebtex has a coherent licence statement, but when i examined it, the impression i got was mostly "nonfree", and i catalogued it ass such. nonfree theings don't get into tex live. in this case, the distribution is such a shambles that hebtex isn't even in miktex (that often holds things catalogued as non-free). General TeX questions are much better answered in texhax mailing list (or in comp.text.tex newsgroup which is pestered by spammers but also frequented by very knowledgeable and helpful people, some of them do not subscribe mailing lists), and TeXLive specific questions are much better answered in tex-live mailing list. Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From jmfont at ub.edu Sat May 29 15:48:24 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:48:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Another feature request Message-ID: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> The proposal: Having "command-zero" as shortcut for opening and closing the console, from whatever document's window is front. Justification: This would be very useful for laptops and small screens. And even for large screens: I prefer to use all that space for having the source window and the typeset window in parallel and at the best possible sizes; so, being able to bring the console front and back (or open and close it) with a keystroke would be ideal (as it is now "command-one" for jumping from source to typeset and back). It seemed to me it is not possible to user-define this, neither in TeXShop nor in System Preferences, because the name of the console window and of its associated menu item start with the current file's name. A partial alternative would be to have this window renamed as just "Console". At least, this would enable interested users to define a TeXShop macro or a System keybinding to open it (but I don't know what one would do to close it). Note also that now, when the Console is the front window, "command-one" has no effect. And, yes, I am an old Textures user... JMaF From benoit.rivet at free.fr Sat May 29 15:56:54 2010 From: benoit.rivet at free.fr (Benoit RIVET) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:56:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> Le 29 mai 2010 ? 15:16, Alain Schremmer a ?crit : > > On May 29, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > >> >> Aloha, >> >> I would like to see the following implemented in TeXShop. >> >> 1. An embedded web browser (nothing fancy only to display one web page at a >> time), with WebKit this should be easy (right?). >> 2. If the embedded web browser is included, some basic applescript >> capabilities for it added to the TeXShop applescript dictionary (load URL, >> scroll to a given place). >> 3. A "texshop:" web protocol handler as part of the TeXShop distribution (I >> already wrote one that could serve at least as a prototype >> ). > > What does the people think? > > Should I add it to the thread "List of feature requests on this list" What's the point of embedding a web browser in TexShop ? Why not embed a mail app, a newsreader, iTunes and QuickTime ? This should be pretty easy (all these apps are standard with Mac OS); but how could this possibly help anyone typesetting books or articles ? Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); but why on Earth would anyone want to embed a web browser in TexShop ? Beno?t RIVET From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 16:01:48 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:01:48 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> Message-ID: On May 29, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Benoit RIVET wrote: > ... > Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); but why on Earth would anyone want to embed a web browser in TexShop ? > > Beno?t RIVET Howdy, Can you publish these engines? What else is needed besides the engines? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From benoit.rivet at free.fr Sat May 29 16:30:33 2010 From: benoit.rivet at free.fr (Benoit RIVET) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:30:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> Message-ID: <82203B1E-D865-4B84-892F-BF994DA2E896@free.fr> Le 29 mai 2010 ? 16:01, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > > On May 29, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Benoit RIVET wrote: > >> ... >> Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); but why on Earth would anyone want to embed a web browser in TexShop ? >> >> Beno?t RIVET > > Howdy, > > Can you publish these engines? What else is needed besides the engines? I'm sorry to disappoint you, but when I wrote "it may be achieved", I meant that I don't have the skills to program such an engine and that I leave it as an exercise to the reader ;-) However, I can imagine that after a first run of latex, one should be able to decipher the log and know if packages are missing, then dig into the tmlgr database to check whether the required packages are available, install them with tlmgr and re-run latex. That's easier said than done, but let's hope someone on the list may be able to implement it... Beno?t RIVET From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 16:54:13 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:54:13 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <82203B1E-D865-4B84-892F-BF994DA2E896@free.fr> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> <82203B1E-D865-4B84-892F-BF994DA2E896@free.fr> Message-ID: On May 29, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Benoit RIVET wrote: > Le 29 mai 2010 ? 16:01, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > >> >> On May 29, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Benoit RIVET wrote: >> >>> ... >>> Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); but why on Earth would anyone want to embed a web browser in TexShop ? >>> >>> Beno?t RIVET >> >> Howdy, >> >> Can you publish these engines? What else is needed besides the engines? > > I'm sorry to disappoint you, but when I wrote "it may be achieved", I meant that I don't have the skills to program such an engine and that I leave it as an exercise to the reader ;-) > > However, I can imagine that after a first run of latex, one should be able to decipher the log and know if packages are missing, then dig into the tmlgr database to check whether the required packages are available, install them with tlmgr and re-run latex. > > That's easier said than done, but let's hope someone on the list may be able to implement it... > > Beno?t RIVET Howdy, Something like that used with a BasicTeX distribution (much smaller that the full TeX Live distribution supplied with the MacTeX installer) might be handy. However, TeX Live already has a huge number of packages installed and the tlmgr database only lists the ones that are actually there already. The few packages I have ever had to install manually are either commercial or ``non-free'' fonts (TeX Live is very [overly?] careful about licensing) and some packages that are needed by old documents but which have been deprecated by newer packages (e.g., the glossaries package has superseded the glossary package but some old documents used the latter package and the commands are a bit different). Many of these are available via CTAN but will not be in the tlmgr database. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 18:12:37 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 17:12:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 11:12, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 29.05.2010 um 02:26 schrieb : > >> Skia and Hoefler Text include some missing characters; Venturis gives >> frankly weird output. > > No, it's rather OK. Not available glyphs are substituted with U+FFFF, which, > depending on the font's design, can have different shapes. > Do you mean that you don't get missing characters when you typeset the test file? At least not for Skia and Hoefler? >> >> I take it the missing characters (^W, ^Y etc.) are due to Skia, Hoefler >> and Venturis lacking them. So unlike TeX, XeTeX does not or cannot >> create accented glyphs on the fly? > > It can! You've seen it in all fonts you used in your test file. No. In my output, I get missing character symbols in place of ^W, ^Y etc. for everything bar Latin Modern. That is, Skia and Hoefler demonstrate this, too - I assumed because these fonts lack Wcircumflex, wcircumflex etc. > The problem > with Venturis ADF is that the font does not have combining accents: > > otfinfo -g > /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/arkandis/venturis/VenturisADF-Regular.otf > | wc -l > 263 > otfinfo -g > /usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/arkandis/venturis/VenturisADF-Regular.otf > | grep -i combin | wc -l > 0 > Thanks. > So you only have the pre-composed glyphs available. LM, Skia, Hoefler, and > others are real Unicode fonts and not just a restricted PostScript font file > wrapped into OTF clothes with automatically created tables in their pockets > with some standard features. > Except that the output is wrong even for glyphs which Venturis definitely does contain. That's why I think there's another problem here. (e.g. the fi ligature is used instead of "U, copyright in place of OE and 1/2 in place of copyright etc.) And it isn't even all the Venturis fonts - only some of them. >> >> Which means that XeTeX on a Mac will *never* use type 1 fonts, TFM >> files etc.? (So it reads pdftex.map to no real purpose?) > > It tries to avoid it. TFM (not VF) is somehow supported (because it's some > TeX), PostScript fonts can also be used. Using both on purpose can be sign of > a brain damage: these fonts have no tables which allow typesetting text. They > just have the dimensions of the glyphs' boxes and sometimes some kerning > information. No way to switch to sub- or superscripts, alternatives, > substitutes, ligatures... > > Using TFM or PostScript fonts in XeTeX is like using Fred Flintstone's car. > (Although its time seems to return.) > It isn't that I want to use them - I wanted to be sure XeLaTeX was *not* attempting to use them in the case of Venturis. Thanks, cfr > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > A morning without coffee is like something without something else. > From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 19:09:36 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:09:36 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: References: <6292C93F-1B78-4F52-86A0-A8A7FFB1BB29@math.jussieu.fr> <204CEBCB-C83F-49F4-867F-6D352652D476@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28BAAABC-1A35-4DA8-9577-4D1FD1AD23EB@gmail.com> On May 29, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Victor Ivrii wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Alain Schremmer > wrote: > >>> >>> PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive >>> mailing >>> list >> >> Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% of my >> queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! >> > > > Alain, the problem with this particular query is that the people who > should answer it are not subscribers of this list. If I have not > forwarded it to TL list situation would not be clarified: > > With the help of Robin Fairbanks it was found on CTAN > > ftp://ftp.ctan.org//pub/tex-archive/language/hebrew/hebtex/unix/new/ > hebfonts.tar.gz > > but they will not be a part of TL as (citation of RB) > > none of hebtex has a coherent licence statement, but when i > examined it, > the impression i got was mostly "nonfree", and i catalogued it ass > such. > > nonfree theings don't get into tex live. in this case, the > distribution > is such a shambles that hebtex isn't even in miktex (that often holds > things catalogued as non-free). > > General TeX questions are much better answered in texhax mailing list > (or in comp.text.tex newsgroup which is pestered by spammers but also > frequented by very knowledgeable and helpful people, some of them do > not subscribe mailing lists), and TeXLive specific questions are much > better answered in tex-live mailing list. Point (well) made. Apologetic regards --schremmer From dwarnold45 at suddenlink.net Sat May 29 19:14:58 2010 From: dwarnold45 at suddenlink.net (David Arnold) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 10:14:58 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I use BBEdit a lot and I find invaluable its tabbing and drawer system. It's not unusual that I often have multiple files open and having them "tabbed" in the same editor is helpful. Also, keyboard shortcuts to scroll forward or backward through tabbed windows are extremely helpful. Texhop has Cmd+` to scroll through open windows, but it also travels through the open console window and finder, etc, which interferes with what you really want to do, which is tab back and forth between two open tex source files. The drawer in BBEdit has a number of nice features including the ability to open a tabbed source file in another window, close all windows, close "others", etc. In Texshop, I use header lines like: %!TEX TS-program = latex. I use \include and \includeonly very often when I work on a large project and forward and inverse search work extremely well in the current version, so I probably would not need a "project" window. However, in keeping with the spirit of Texshop to make things easier for newcomers to tex and latex, the ability to start a "book" project, with chapter and section files, exercise files, solutions files, and to organize them in an "XCode" groups and files type environment would be a very good thing, particularly for new comes who don't know much about "including" files. On the other hand, the most attractive thing about Texshop is the simplicity of its interface. I worry about features "cluttering" the interface and appreciate the authors' wisdom in keeping its "clean" look and feel. David Arnold College of the Redwoods On May 29, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 29, 2010, at 6:33 AM, Christian Pleul wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> there are any plans to bring the following features to TeXShop: >> >> 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. >> >> 2) Project Drawer: Like a side panel where all files, which belong to certain project, could be organized (like in TextMate) >> >> 3) Projects: Files could be organized in projects like in TextMate or TeXnicCenter > > What does the people think? > > Should I add it to the thread "List of feature requests on this list" > > Regards > --schremmer > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 19:41:50 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:41:50 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <28261A43-C17C-4FF7-94FB-91F37911728D@wideopenwest.com> On May 29, 2010, at 12:14 PM, David Arnold wrote: > ... In Texshop, I use header lines like: %!TEX TS-program = latex. I use \include and \includeonly very often when I work on a large project and forward and inverse search work extremely well in the current version, so I probably would not need a "project" window. However, in keeping with the spirit of Texshop to make things easier for newcomers to tex and latex, the ability to start a "book" project, with chapter and section files, exercise files, solutions files, and to organize them in an "XCode" groups and files type environment would be a very good thing, particularly for new comes who don't know much about "including" files. > Howdy, Attached is a macro called Open Selection (Opt-Cmd-O) to be installed in TeXShop's Macros Menu. Select a file name inside an \include, \usepackage, \documentclass, etc., command, execute the Macro and the corresponding file will be opened (as long as it is on a path understood by kpsewhich or you've highlighted the path). I have no problem executing this macro some other people have reported problems so please let me know how it goes. To install the Macro open up TeXShop's Macro Editor (Macros->Open Macro Editor...) and then, again, open the Macros Menu to see two additional items of which the Add macros from file... will ask you to select the file (the enclosed plist file) and will copy it to the macros file. You can them ove it around in the menu shown in the Macros Editor, change the keyboard shortcut, etc. > On the other hand, the most attractive thing about Texshop is the simplicity of its interface. I worry about features "cluttering" the interface and appreciate the authors' wisdom in keeping its "clean" look and feel. > > David Arnold > College of the Redwoods > Agreed. It's one of the reasons I still love to use TeXShop. It's just extensible enough to meet my needs. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 19:42:50 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:42:50 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: <28261A43-C17C-4FF7-94FB-91F37911728D@wideopenwest.com> References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> <28261A43-C17C-4FF7-94FB-91F37911728D@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <1CD7FC78-0012-42B3-B559-FBD398F53BFA@wideopenwest.com> On May 29, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 29, 2010, at 12:14 PM, David Arnold wrote: > >> ... In Texshop, I use header lines like: %!TEX TS-program = latex. I use \include and \includeonly very often when I work on a large project and forward and inverse search work extremely well in the current version, so I probably would not need a "project" window. However, in keeping with the spirit of Texshop to make things easier for newcomers to tex and latex, the ability to start a "book" project, with chapter and section files, exercise files, solutions files, and to organize them in an "XCode" groups and files type environment would be a very good thing, particularly for new comes who don't know much about "including" files. >> > > Howdy, > > Attached is a macro called Open Selection (Opt-Cmd-O) to be installed in TeXShop's Macros Menu. Select a file name inside an \include, \usepackage, \documentclass, etc., command, execute the Macro and the corresponding file will be opened (as long as it is on a path understood by kpsewhich or you've highlighted the path). I have no problem executing this macro some other people have reported problems so please let me know how it goes. > > To install the Macro open up TeXShop's Macro Editor (Macros->Open Macro Editor...) and then, again, open the Macros Menu to see two additional items of which the Add macros from file... will ask you to select the file (the enclosed plist file) and will copy it to the macros file. You can them ove it around in the menu shown in the Macros Editor, change the keyboard shortcut, etc. > >> On the other hand, the most attractive thing about Texshop is the simplicity of its interface. I worry about features "cluttering" the interface and appreciate the authors' wisdom in keeping its "clean" look and feel. >> >> David Arnold >> College of the Redwoods >> > > Agreed. It's one of the reasons I still love to use TeXShop. It's just extensible enough to meet my needs. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) > Howdy, As usual... I forgot the attachment: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OpenSelection.plist.zip Type: application/zip Size: 2863 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From chrisptex at googlemail.com Sat May 29 19:29:46 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:29:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop: tab completion for command completion Message-ID: <9C5258E3-37D7-4BDA-AE90-DEB5637DFB11@googlemail.com> Hi All, Is there a way to configure TeXShop use something like tab completion. I think of typing sec and press the tab-Button and then get a completion like \section{}\label{sec:} where I type something between the first curly brackets and then go t the next ones. What the others think??? Best -- Christian -The next generation of interesting software will be done on the Macintosh, not the IBM PC.- Bill Gates, Nov 1984 From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 20:18:18 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:18:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 10:14, David Arnold seems to have written: > On the other hand, the most attractive thing about Texshop is the simplicity of its interface. I worry about features "cluttering" the interface and appreciate the authors' wisdom in keeping its "clean" look and feel. I completely agree about this. If TeXShop included a web browser, I would suggest introducing the feature of lacking a web browser. Tabs would be nice. I use screen in Terminal and really like the control it gives me - I can see the list of available screens at all times and move easily between them. No more searching to find the appropriate window amid the clutter. Window clutter is probably the biggest negative re. TeXShop. But everyone has a pet feature they believe essential but people vary as to which it is and I recognise that pleasing everyone would bloat the application. In my view, avoiding bloat is the most important thing. (I don't want to feel as if I'm back in Word!) I think Richard Koch is doing a great job with that and post this primarily to voice further support for careful bloat-avoidance. (That is, I don't mean to sound especially critical of any particular feature request - only to explain why I'd be concerned about the cumulative effects of accommodating all of them, even mine which I naturally believe to be obvious and important non-bloating suggestions unlike the rest! :) Best, cfr From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 20:31:54 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 19:31:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: <5FC415E0-AAB5-4775-BEAE-F92922B80020@ub.edu> References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> <5FC415E0-AAB5-4775-BEAE-F92922B80020@ub.edu> Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 15:31, Josep Maria Font seems to have written: > On the recent feature requests suggested by Christian Pleul: > >>> 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. > > Would be nice if this meant that each tab affects the whole typesetting process: viewer, log file, etc. Having all in parallel would be nice. Now, you can have several documents open and typeset them in succession but only one log (sorry, one console) is kept... I get separate consoles for different documents. Is that what you mean? Right now, I have two console windows in TeXShop corresponding to the two TeX files which are open and have been typeset. Sometimes it would be nice if TeXShop opened the associated .log as well as the associated .pdf file when a .tex file is opened. But that's the only time I see typeset files without console windows (unless I've deliberately closed them, of course). - cfr From jmfont at ub.edu Sat May 29 20:44:37 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:44:37 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> <5FC415E0-AAB5-4775-BEAE-F92922B80020@ub.edu> Message-ID: El 29/05/2010, a las 20:31, cfrees at imapmail.org escribi?: > On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 15:31, Josep Maria Font seems to have written: > >> On the recent feature requests suggested by Christian Pleul: >> >>>> 1) Tabs: More than one file could be opened in one window. >> >> Would be nice if this meant that each tab affects the whole typesetting process: viewer, log file, etc. Having all in parallel would be nice. Now, you can have several documents open and typeset them in succession but only one log (sorry, one console) is kept... > > I get separate consoles for different documents. Is that what you mean? > Right now, I have two console windows in TeXShop corresponding to the > two TeX files which are open and have been typeset. Oooops! You are right, thanks for pointing it out! JMaF From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 20:48:10 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:48:10 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 29, 2010, at 1:14 PM, David Arnold wrote: > I use BBEdit a lot and I find invaluable its tabbing and drawer > system. It's not unusual that I often have multiple files open and > having them "tabbed" in the same editor is helpful. Also, keyboard > shortcuts to scroll forward or backward through tabbed windows are > extremely helpful. Texhop has Cmd+` to scroll through open windows, > but it also travels through the open console window and finder, > etc, which interferes with what you really want to do, which is tab > back and forth between two open tex source files. The drawer in > BBEdit has a number of nice features including the ability to open > a tabbed source file in another window, close all windows, close > "others", etc. > > In Texshop, I use header lines like: %!TEX TS-program = latex. I > use \include and \includeonly very often when I work on a large > project and forward and inverse search work extremely well in the > current version, so I probably would not need a "project" window. > However, in keeping with the spirit of Texshop to make things > easier for newcomers to tex and latex, the ability to start a > "book" project, with chapter and section files, exercise files, > solutions files, and to organize them in an "XCode" groups and > files type environment would be a very good thing, particularly for > new comes who don't know much about "including" files. For what it's worth, here is the way I set up my "projects" ---I keep in a folder Book the file Book.tex which has the front matter, back matter etc and \include{../Chapters-contents/1}, \include {../Chapters-contents/2}, etc (The folder also keeps all the subordinate files) ---I keep in a folder Chapters-contents the chapter files, 1.tex, 2.tex, etc which all start with the same line %!TEX root = ../Chapters-controls/\jobname.tex ---I keep in a folder Chapters-controls very short files, also called 1.tex, 2.tex etc, which are all just copies of the template file \documentclass[11pt]{book} %ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssBegin PREAMBLE \usepackage{BookPreamble} \usepackage{BookGraphicsPath} % sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss End PREAMBLE \begin{document} % sssssssssssss Begin ADJUSTMENTS to DOCUMENT \addtocounter{page}{0} \addtocounter{chapter}{0} % sssssssssssssss End ADJUSTMENTS to DOCUMENT \include{../Chapters-contents/\jobname} \end{document} (The folders also keep all the subordinate files) I do adjust the chapter counter but usually forget about the page counter. The net result is that when I work on the source file n.tex, I just hit Typeset to get the n.pdf. One drawback is that, say, Theorems do not show their true number unless the whole book is typeset from Book.tex It probably could be arranged but I never really felt the need. Here is my "project folder" which is always on my second screen. By the way, this is also where I keep the style sheets (I put sym links in the latex folder.) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ProjectFolder.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 38675 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Regards --schremmer From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 29 20:49:15 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> Message-ID: <1275158955737-5117005.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Benoit, The point is that one could then write, easily, interfaces for all kinds of things within TeXShop. Look at my , which uses a simple browser window to see an example of what can be accomplished. Another idea is, if you do not like the console, then you could just write you own, with color and hyperlinks to the errors. In essence it would let you parse the output of any TeX command utility, reformat it with HTML including hyperlinks to TeX files. You can even add tooltips using javascript. Please see my other recent post "TeXShop Webpage Helper" for some of my ideas. Thanks, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/TeXShop-Feature-Request-tp5115954p5117005.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fergdc at uleth.ca Sat May 29 20:05:50 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:05:50 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings "Herbert Schulz" On 29/05/2010 at 14:54 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request Hello Herb, <> HS> Something like that used with a BasicTeX distribution (much smaller that the full TeX Live distribution supplied with the MacTeX installer) might be handy. I agree. Before I had a Mac machine I tried to install BasicTeX on a friend's iMac, but I guess my downloads were inadequate since we could not get anything to install. The MacTeX download is both amazing and humungous, but it worked flawlessly on my friend's iMac and now on mine. But for beginners, perhaps BasicTeX would be a less intimidating introduction. When your TeX legs become stable, then move up to TeXShop and friends! <> Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From fergdc at uleth.ca Sat May 29 19:52:44 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:52:44 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: <204CEBCB-C83F-49F4-867F-6D352652D476@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings "Alain Schremmer" On 29/05/2010 at 13:21 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts Hi Alain, <> AS>> PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive AS>> mailing list AS> Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% of my AS> queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! I suspect people consult this list because they get useful answers. That is my experience. :-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From fergdc at uleth.ca Sat May 29 19:49:19 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:49:19 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings "Alain Schremmer" On 29/05/2010 at 13:16 you wrote concerning Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request Hello Alain and Ram?n, AS> On May 29, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: AS>> I would like to see the following implemented in TeXShop. AS>> AS>> 1. An embedded web browser (nothing fancy only to display one web AS>> page at a AS>> time), with WebKit this should be easy (right?). AS>> 2. If the embedded web browser is included, some basic applescript AS>> capabilities for it added to the TeXShop applescript dictionary AS>> (load URL, AS>> scroll to a given place). AS>> 3. A "texshop:" web protocol handler as part of the TeXShop AS>> distribution (I AS>> already wrote one that could serve at least as a prototype AS>> > index.html#TeXShopWebpageHelper>). AS> What does the people think? I think that each of the suggestions is irrelevant. Mind you, I am an absolute beginner with TeXShop so perhaps the stated ideas are important and I am not able to "see" that far--- at the moment. ;-) Cheers Don (Green Dragon) -- From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 20:53:29 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:53:29 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 29, 2010, at 2:18 PM, wrote: > Window clutter is probably the > biggest negative re. TeXShop. True, but in my case, at lest half the clutter is due to the figures so I can't blame TeXShop. But this is why I keep my old hardware: it includes a second screen as well as a Cinema so I can nicely spread the clutter. (But I wish I had a third screen.) Regards --schremmer From cfrees at imapmail.org Sat May 29 21:03:28 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:03:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 14:53, Alain Schremmer seems to have written: > > On May 29, 2010, at 2:18 PM, > wrote: > >> Window clutter is probably the >> biggest negative re. TeXShop. > > True, but in my case, at lest half the clutter is due to the figures so I > can't blame TeXShop. But this is why I keep my old hardware: it includes a > second screen as well as a Cinema so I can nicely spread the clutter. (But I > wish I had a third screen.) Whereas I have 12" :) - cfr From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Sat May 29 21:09:19 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:09:19 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <593790D5-2D97-44A9-80C7-F633394DEE36@gmail.com> On May 29, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > Greetings "Alain Schremmer" > On 29/05/2010 at 13:21 you wrote concerning > Re: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts > > Hi Alain, > > <> > AS>> PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive > AS>> mailing list > > AS> Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% > of my > AS> queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! > > I suspect people consult this list because they get useful answers. > That is my experience. :-) Truth of the matter, of course, is that the sigh was entirely academic and I never had any intention whatsoever of leaving this list. (I may be a fool, but not that much.) Best regards to all --schremmer From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 21:16:24 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:16:24 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop: tab completion for command completion In-Reply-To: <9C5258E3-37D7-4BDA-AE90-DEB5637DFB11@googlemail.com> References: <9C5258E3-37D7-4BDA-AE90-DEB5637DFB11@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <5FD177F8-3551-47EF-B226-133EB3E83FF1@wideopenwest.com> On May 29, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Christian Pleul wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a way to configure TeXShop use something like tab completion. I think of typing > > sec > > and press the tab-Button and then get a completion like > > \section{}\label{sec:} > > where I type something between the first curly brackets and then go t the next ones. > > > What the others think??? > > Howdy, It's already there but it uses the Esc key and is called Command Completion! Do you have TeXShop 2.33? Did you update from an earlier (pre 2.30) update? If so move the ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder to the Desktop and restart TeXShop and an updated version of that folder will be created which has the latest Command Completion data file. If your first TeXShop version was 2.30 or later you already have the correct data files. Also in the new ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder is a ``Command Completion for TeXShop.pdf'' file with instructions on its use. At first it may feel as though you are memorizing lots of things but it will become natural and there is no need to remember everything there at once. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 29 21:33:20 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Another feature request In-Reply-To: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> References: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> Message-ID: <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, A simple applescript will give you what you want. Save it in the Macros menu and assign the key "0" to it. Enjoy! Ram?n -- Applescript direct tell application "TeXShop" activate try path of the front document on error -- There is no front document or it has not ever been saved return end try set doc_name to the name of the front document set doc_name to do shell script "basename " & quoted form of doc_name & " .tex" log doc_name & " Console" try set the index of the window named (doc_name & " Console") to 1 end try end tell -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Another-feature-request-tp5116320p5117108.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 29 22:11:24 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 22:11:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> Message-ID: <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2010 um 18:12 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > Do you mean that you don't get missing characters when you typeset the > test file? At least not for Skia and Hoefler? I get them, of course. They are substituted by either a square or an up standing rectangle or the same with a diagonal cross. >>> I take it the missing characters (^W, ^Y etc.) are due to Skia, >>> Hoefler >>> and Venturis lacking them. So unlike TeX, XeTeX does not or cannot >>> create accented glyphs on the fly? >> >> It can! You've seen it in all fonts you used in your test file. > > No. In my output, I get missing character symbols in place of ^W, ^Y > etc. for everything bar Latin Modern. That is, Skia and Hoefler > demonstrate this, too - I assumed because these fonts lack > Wcircumflex, > wcircumflex etc. How are ????? etc. right of the f-ligatures? On the XeTeX mailing list we could exchange some graphics... >> > Except that the output is wrong even for glyphs which Venturis > definitely does contain. That's why I think there's another problem > here. (e.g. the fi ligature is used instead of "U, copyright in place > of OE and 1/2 in place of copyright etc.) And it isn't even all the > Venturis fonts - only some of them. The TeX machinery finds the PostScript fonts, which are certainly not Unicode encoded, first? Maybe you did not even enable the OT variants in Font Book (since Tiger you can create a library and then fill it with font files)? >> > It isn't that I want to use them - I wanted to be sure XeLaTeX was > *not* attempting to use them in the case of Venturis. Either try the described two step approach or this: xelatex -output-driver='xdvipdfmx -vv' Fonts associated with a path name come from the file system, fonts without a path name come from a font service. Fontspec also gives you the option to tell XeTeX the particular font file to be used. Try that for ADF Venturis! -- Greetings Pete You can never know too little of what is not worth knowing at all. ? Anon. From jmfont at ub.edu Sat May 29 22:13:25 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 22:13:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Another feature request In-Reply-To: <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> El 29/05/2010, a las 21:33, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno escribi?: > A simple applescript will give you what you want. Save it in the Macros menu > and assign the key "0" to it. Thanks for trying, Ram?n, but the macro does nothing. I have modified other macros and scripts in the past, so I assume I installed it in the right way. Just in case I did not express myself clearly, what I want is that if the Console is not the front window, it opens it and puts it as the front window (the console related to the front-most document window, either source or preview). JMaF From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 29 22:25:30 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:25:30 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Another feature request In-Reply-To: <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> References: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> Message-ID: <1681A281-A34C-44B0-8BB5-1EF1D4401943@wideopenwest.com> On May 29, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Josep Maria Font wrote: > El 29/05/2010, a las 21:33, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno escribi?: > >> A simple applescript will give you what you want. Save it in the Macros menu >> and assign the key "0" to it. > > Thanks for trying, Ram?n, but the macro does nothing. I have modified other macros and scripts in the past, so I assume I installed it in the right way. Just in case I did not express myself clearly, what I want is that if the Console is not the front window, it opens it and puts it as the front window (the console related to the front-most document window, either source or preview). > > > JMaF Howdy, Doesn't File->Open Console do what you want? Assign a keyboard shortcut to is via System Preferences if you wish. There is also File->Open Log File to view the log file. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sat May 29 22:49:57 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Another feature request In-Reply-To: <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> References: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> Message-ID: <1275166197290-5117249.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Josep Maria, There must be a Console already in existence. However, what Herb suggested is much better. I forgot that there is a "Show Console" menu item (I had never used it in all these years, go figure). Mahalo, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Another-feature-request-tp5116320p5117249.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Sat May 29 22:59:05 2010 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 22:59:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Avoid clutter Message-ID: <46076887-7527-4088-B4FA-9C171848DB0A@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Attached are scripts that will miniaturize the front tex window and its pdf window or deminiaturize the pdf window of a tex window. Claus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: miniaturize.scpt.zip Type: application/zip Size: 6344 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: deminiaturize.scpt.zip Type: application/zip Size: 6244 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jmfont at ub.edu Sat May 29 23:46:01 2010 From: jmfont at ub.edu (Josep Maria Font) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 23:46:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Another feature request In-Reply-To: <1681A281-A34C-44B0-8BB5-1EF1D4401943@wideopenwest.com> References: <29B2C75C-73B5-4448-94AD-5A45DA74E4C3@ub.edu> <1275161600985-5117108.post@n2.nabble.com> <667332D3-C56D-4119-81B4-7D1826F7F955@ub.edu> <1681A281-A34C-44B0-8BB5-1EF1D4401943@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: El 29/05/2010, a las 22:25, Herbert Schulz escribi?: > Doesn't File->Open Console do what you want? Assign a keyboard shortcut to is via System Preferences if you wish. There is also File->Open Log File to view the log file. Yes, it does!!! (It is "Show" rather than "Open"). It works as I was wanting. How stupid, not having noticed this menu item in years! Many thanks!!! JMaF From oliver.buerschaper at mpq.mpg.de Sun May 30 09:15:28 2010 From: oliver.buerschaper at mpq.mpg.de (Oliver Buerschaper) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 09:15:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> Message-ID: <2FDF3657-E3C5-4350-9442-154479C42457@mpq.mpg.de> > Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); Perhaps this would more naturally fit into a system preferences pane? Even an extension of the TeXDist pane? Best, Oliver From oliver.buerschaper at mpq.mpg.de Sun May 30 09:33:45 2010 From: oliver.buerschaper at mpq.mpg.de (Oliver Buerschaper) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 09:33:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Question In-Reply-To: References: <5E0A9767-9D2C-464C-B275-973AD442E6F6@gmail.com> Message-ID: > In Texshop, I use header lines like: %!TEX TS-program = latex. I use \include and \includeonly very often when I work on a large project and forward and inverse search work extremely well in the current version, so I probably would not need a "project" window. However, in keeping with the spirit of Texshop to make things easier for newcomers to tex and latex, the ability to start a "book" project, with chapter and section files, exercise files, solutions files, and to organize them in an "XCode" groups and files type environment would be a very good thing, particularly for new comes who don't know much about "including" files. Fully agree :-) On the other hand I understand the concerns about TeXShop becoming too bloated. So it's down to thinking carefully about how to implement a new project feature such that it isn't forced upon the user. If one needs to typeset a single file quickly then that should be possible from the familiar minimal TeXShop window that people have come to love. If support for an entire project is needed only then the more powerful GUI infrastructure should be exposed to the user. Hence in my opinion a clean and uncluttered interface and more advanced features don't mutually exclude each other. To the contrary. What matters is a cleverly designed GUI. Best, Oliver From vivrii at gmail.com Sun May 30 11:23:28 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 05:23:28 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <2FDF3657-E3C5-4350-9442-154479C42457@mpq.mpg.de> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> <2FDF3657-E3C5-4350-9442-154479C42457@mpq.mpg.de> Message-ID: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Oliver Buerschaper wrote: >> Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex ?makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); One needs to remember that both MikTeX and TeXLive install/update ONLY packages which were repacked for them, not ANY package from CTAN. The latter task would be impossible as some authors demonstrate unhealthy resourcefulness and creativity packing their packages. So, if we are talking about TL packages the whole thing makes sense only in the case the original installation was Basic rather than Full. Definitely tlmgr should not be "embedded" as it sometimes updates self but *invoked* (as TLU does) Now about packages which are part of MikTeX but not TL. There at least used to be non-automatic "mtmgr" (it was called different way) for Unix and Unix-likes which I used with teTeX. However MikTeX cannot coexist comfortably with TL. Even if we decide that if package is unknown to tlmgr it must be downloaded and installed/updated by "mkmgr" in some other tree (local or dedicated). There is at least one problem: LaTeX package is not a TL or MikTeX package; there could be many LaTeX packages in one TL packaging. Sometimes they are bundles like "hyperref" or "oberdiek" or "pgf" but sometimes there are just a heap of some packages. TL team did a large job breaking the latter into their elements and packing those separately. However I presume that such heaps exist and they are different for MikTeX and TL. Finally, the reason why some package is part of MikTeX but not TL is the licensing issue: TL was always strict here as TL distributions were also sold on CDs and to some companies which make the commercial products, and attitude of MikTeX was more cavalierly. However there are some packages/fonts with so messy licensing that even MikTeX is not willing to deal with them. Finally as Karl Berry wrote recently "FWIW, Christian told me recently that he would start trying to winnow out the nonfree items in miktex using the same checks on the catalogue license values as TL." So basically packages with licensing issues will disappear from MikTeX and any package without these issues and not part of TL could become a part of it (just place the request in texlive mailing list) Christian = Schenk, MikTeX maintainer "mkmgr" = MiKTeX Tools 2 Victor ====== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sun May 30 11:25:53 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 02:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... Message-ID: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found the following PDFs: Arrows.pdf Binary.pdf BinaryOperations.pdf Delimiters.pdf European.pdf HG.pdf LargeOperators.pdf MathAccents.pdf MathSpacing.pdf MiscSymbols.pdf MoreBinary.pdf NegatedBinary.pdf Operators.pdf ShortCourse.pdf SymbolTables.pdf Tables.pdf TextAccents.pdf TextSizes.pdf TextSpacing.pdf TextSymbols.pdf Tables.pdf and ShortCourse.pdf are opened through the Help menu, but the others (although having useful information) do not seem to be accessible form any menu. Some seem to be sub pages of Tables.pdf. Also, what is hiero.icns doing there? Just curious, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Going-through-TeXShop-app-Contents-Resources-I-found-tp5118297p5118297.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From vivrii at gmail.com Sun May 30 12:00:26 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 06:00:26 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... In-Reply-To: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > > Tables.pdf and ShortCourse.pdf are opened through the Help menu, but the > others (although having useful information) do not seem to be accessible > form any menu. Some seem to be sub pages of Tables.pdf. > Edit > Special characters Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From ramonf at hawaii.edu Sun May 30 12:34:37 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 03:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... In-Reply-To: References: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1275215677767-5118427.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha Victor, I do not understand. When I open "Special characters..." in the "Edit" menu I get the system's CHaracter palette. Mahalo, Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Going-through-TeXShop-app-Contents-Resources-I-found-tp5118297p5118427.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 30 13:08:28 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 13:08:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... In-Reply-To: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <90A195AD-BF83-4A15-B6F2-D1D45E434CDB@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2010 um 11:25 schrieb Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno: > Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found the following > PDFs: Earlier TeXShop versions had matrix and LaTeX (symbols etc.) palettes. Leftovers now... -- Greetings Pete "A TRUE Klingon warrior does not comment his code." From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 30 15:00:51 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 08:00:51 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... In-Reply-To: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On May 30, 2010, at 4:25 AM, Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno wrote: > > Aloha, > > Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found the following PDFs: > > Arrows.pdf > Binary.pdf > BinaryOperations.pdf > Delimiters.pdf > European.pdf > HG.pdf > LargeOperators.pdf > MathAccents.pdf > MathSpacing.pdf > MiscSymbols.pdf > MoreBinary.pdf > NegatedBinary.pdf > Operators.pdf > ShortCourse.pdf > SymbolTables.pdf > Tables.pdf > TextAccents.pdf > TextSizes.pdf > TextSpacing.pdf > TextSymbols.pdf > > Tables.pdf and ShortCourse.pdf are opened through the Help menu, but the > others (although having useful information) do not seem to be accessible > form any menu. Some seem to be sub pages of Tables.pdf. > > Also, what is hiero.icns doing there? > > Just curious, > > Ram?n Howdy, The rest look like they are bits and pieces of what you get when you invoke Help->Short Course Symbol Tables. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From chrisptex at googlemail.com Sun May 30 16:07:27 2010 From: chrisptex at googlemail.com (Christian Pleul) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:07:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop: tab completion for command completion In-Reply-To: <5FD177F8-3551-47EF-B226-133EB3E83FF1@wideopenwest.com> References: <9C5258E3-37D7-4BDA-AE90-DEB5637DFB11@googlemail.com> <5FD177F8-3551-47EF-B226-133EB3E83FF1@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <6FF2A497-A4E6-4FF6-9B9C-C30D3D7D10FF@googlemail.com> Am 29.05.2010 um 21:16 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > > On May 29, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Christian Pleul wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Is there a way to configure TeXShop use something like tab completion. I think of typing >> >> sec >> >> and press the tab-Button and then get a completion like >> >> \section{}\label{sec:} >> >> where I type something between the first curly brackets and then go t the next ones. >> >> >> What the others think??? >> >> > > Howdy, > > It's already there but it uses the Esc key and is called Command Completion! > > Do you have TeXShop 2.33? > > Did you update from an earlier (pre 2.30) update? If so move the ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder to the Desktop and restart TeXShop and an updated version of that folder will be created which has the latest Command Completion data file. > > If your first TeXShop version was 2.30 or later you already have the correct data files. > > Also in the new ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder is a ``Command Completion for TeXShop.pdf'' file with instructions on its use. At first it may feel as though you are memorizing lots of things but it will become natural and there is no need to remember everything there at once. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz Dear Herb, Thanks for the suggestions. I will check that out for the completion. Just for the first view. The completion uses esc. I used to tab, is there a way to change that? Thanks -- Christian -Bill Gates is a very rich man today ... and do you want to know why? The answer is one word: versions.- Dave Barry From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 30 16:10:53 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 09:10:53 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop: tab completion for command completion In-Reply-To: <6FF2A497-A4E6-4FF6-9B9C-C30D3D7D10FF@googlemail.com> References: <9C5258E3-37D7-4BDA-AE90-DEB5637DFB11@googlemail.com> <5FD177F8-3551-47EF-B226-133EB3E83FF1@wideopenwest.com> <6FF2A497-A4E6-4FF6-9B9C-C30D3D7D10FF@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <3018E709-3DB2-4799-9EB5-C6FF60E41614@wideopenwest.com> On May 30, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Christian Pleul wrote: > > Am 29.05.2010 um 21:16 schrieb Herbert Schulz: > >> >> On May 29, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Christian Pleul wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Is there a way to configure TeXShop use something like tab completion. I think of typing >>> >>> sec >>> >>> and press the tab-Button and then get a completion like >>> >>> \section{}\label{sec:} >>> >>> where I type something between the first curly brackets and then go t the next ones. >>> >>> >>> What the others think??? >>> >>> >> >> Howdy, >> >> It's already there but it uses the Esc key and is called Command Completion! >> >> Do you have TeXShop 2.33? >> >> Did you update from an earlier (pre 2.30) update? If so move the ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder to the Desktop and restart TeXShop and an updated version of that folder will be created which has the latest Command Completion data file. >> >> If your first TeXShop version was 2.30 or later you already have the correct data files. >> >> Also in the new ~/Library/TeXShop/CommandCompletion folder is a ``Command Completion for TeXShop.pdf'' file with instructions on its use. At first it may feel as though you are memorizing lots of things but it will become natural and there is no need to remember everything there at once. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz > > Dear Herb, > > Thanks for the suggestions. I will check that out for the completion. Just for the first view. The completion uses esc. I used to tab, is there a way to change that? > > Thanks > -- > Christian > Howdy, That binding is pretty standard for completions on the Mac and can't be changed at this time. It's on my list of things to look at but I can't make any guarantees if/when I'll understand enough to figure out how to change that. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Sun May 30 16:24:52 2010 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:24:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Working with many files in TeXShop Message-ID: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Here are a few tips for working with with many files in TS: (1) Tell TS to open source and pdf window in a fixed position. Then you will only see two windows regardless of the number of files opened. (2) When you have a file in front and don't see its matching twin sync to it. (3) It is pointless to have auxiliary files permanently open since they will not be automatically refreshed. It is better to open them on the spot via a macro. (4) When writing a paper or a book load the packages hyperref and \usepackage[notref, notcite]{showkeys} for navigating the pdf file and looking up the already defined labels. When writing a book only the root file should be compiled, use \include and \includeonly. (5) When you have a large screen and a modern Mac use Flashmode, then you will immediately notice when a compilation error occurs and consulting the log is only rarely necessary. (6) Never use a MacBook or a small screen when writing a book or a larger paper. Claus From vivrii at gmail.com Sun May 30 16:34:48 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 10:34:48 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Working with many files in TeXShop In-Reply-To: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Claus Gerhardt wrote: > . > > (4) When writing a paper or a book load the packages hyperref and > \usepackage[notref, notcite]{showkeys} More conveniently IMHO \usepackage{color} \usepackage[color]{showkeys} \definecolor{refkey}{rgb}{0,0,1} \definecolor{labelkey}{rgb}{1,0,0} or whatever, Load hyperref after this > > (5) When you have a large screen and a modern Mac use Flashmode, then you will immediately notice when a compilation error occurs and consulting the log is only rarely necessary. Always consult log before releasing an article: look for multiple defined and undefined labels and warning. Turn off however keys > > (6) Never use a MacBook or a small screen when writing a book or a larger paper. > I would say: avoid if possible using a MacBook or a small screen when writing a book or a larger paper -- Victor ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From nvitacolonna at gmail.com Sun May 30 17:09:56 2010 From: nvitacolonna at gmail.com (Nicola) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:09:56 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX on the iPad (again) References: <20100528190010.BDE6E14EAC0A@email> <70FACB3C-67BF-431A-B648-2030EA2A2331@lse.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <70FACB3C-67BF-431A-B648-2030EA2A2331 at lse.ac.uk>, "J. McKenzie Alexander" wrote: > are there any plans to bring a version of TeX, even a minimal version, to the > iPad? I have no plans :) But I would be interested in such a port, which, I believe, is technically possible. Given the architecture of iPhone OS, the only feasible possibility may be to build a "monolithic" application embedding, besides an editor and a viewer, also the tex source (as opposed to calling tex as an external program). Since this is (translatable to) C code, it might be easily integrated with Objective-C code. I don't think that is possible to keep tex (or any other program/script) as an external executable within an application bundle. As far as I know, the iPhone SDK (3.2) does not include NSTask (a class that allows a program to execute a process) and, although standard C fork/exec calls seem to be there (and they work in the iPhone Simulator), I am pretty sure that they are not allowed on a device (but I cannot test that), otherwise removing NSTask in the first place would have been pointless. Of course, TeX is not just one binary program... But, at least as a proof of concept, it would be interesting to isolate the bare minimum needed to run a (plain) TeX system and try to build that into a single application. I'm curious what others, especially developers, think about it. I have little knowledge of the TeX infrastructure (in particular, I don't know what the "bare minimum" is), so I may be grossly misled. Regards, Nicola From amunn at gmx.com Sun May 30 20:58:03 2010 From: amunn at gmx.com (Alan Munn) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 14:58:03 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeX on the iPad (again) In-Reply-To: References: <20100528190010.BDE6E14EAC0A@email> <70FACB3C-67BF-431A-B648-2030EA2A2331@lse.ac.uk> Message-ID: <491AC88E-09F2-44F1-9BC8-3D28E8EEF877@gmx.com> On May 30, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Nicola wrote: > In article <70FACB3C-67BF-431A-B648-2030EA2A2331 at lse.ac.uk>, > "J. McKenzie Alexander" > wrote: > >> are there any plans to bring a version of TeX, even a minimal >> version, to the >> iPad? > > I have no plans :) But I would be interested in such a port, which, I > believe, is technically possible. Given the architecture of iPhone OS, > the only feasible possibility may be to build a "monolithic" > application > embedding, besides an editor and a viewer, also the tex source (as > opposed to calling tex as an external program). Since this is > (translatable to) C code, it might be easily integrated with > Objective-C > code. > > I don't think that is possible to keep tex (or any other program/ > script) > as an external executable within an application bundle. As far as I > know, the iPhone SDK (3.2) does not include NSTask (a class that > allows > a program to execute a process) and, although standard C fork/exec > calls > seem to be there (and they work in the iPhone Simulator), I am pretty > sure that they are not allowed on a device (but I cannot test that), > otherwise removing NSTask in the first place would have been > pointless. > > Of course, TeX is not just one binary program... But, at least as a > proof of concept, it would be interesting to isolate the bare minimum > needed to run a (plain) TeX system and try to build that into a single > application. > > I'm curious what others, especially developers, think about it. I have > little knowledge of the TeX infrastructure (in particular, I don't > know > what the "bare minimum" is), so I may be grossly misled. > Apropos to this discussion is the following message that was posted to the R mailing list. Since pdfTeX et al. are GPL licensed, they are incompatible with Apple's TOS agreement. -Alan > From: Marc Schwartz > Date: May 29, 2010 11:12:15 AM GMT-04:00 > To: r-help at r-project.org > Subject: [R] R on the iPhone/iPad? Not so much....a GPL violation > > Hi all, > > There have been posts in the past about R being made available for > the iPhone and perhaps more logically now, on the iPad. My > recollection is that the hurdle discussed in the past was primarily > a lack of access to a CLI on the iPhone's variant of OSX, compelling > the development of a GUI interface for R specifically for these > devices. R itself, can be successfully compiled with the iPhone > development tools. > > Well, now there is another, clearly more profound reason. > > The FSF has recently communicated with Apple on the presence of a > GPL application (GNU Go) in the iTunes store because the iTunes TOS > infringes upon the GPL. Apple, given a choice, elected to remove the > application, rather than amending their TOS. > > The FSF also informed the developers of the iPhone port of GNU Go > that their distribution is in violation of the GPL. R Core and any > others considering an iPhone/iPad port of R, if you are not already > aware, take note... > > More information is here: > > http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance/ > > with an update here: > > http://www.fsf.org/news/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement > > So, until Apple amends their TOS agreement, it looks like there will > be no GPL apps available for the iPhone/iPad, since the only way to > make applications available for these platforms is via the iTunes > store (unless you unlock the device). Hence, no R for these devices > in the foreseeable future. > > BTW, I am posting this as an FYI, not as a catalyst for a discussion > on the political aspects of this situation. So please, let's not go > there... :-) > > Regards, > > Marc Schwartz > -- Alan Munn amunn at gmx.com From rowenrye at gmail.com Sun May 30 21:48:01 2010 From: rowenrye at gmail.com (Rob Rye) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 12:48:01 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found... In-Reply-To: <90A195AD-BF83-4A15-B6F2-D1D45E434CDB@Web.DE> References: <1275211553401-5118297.post@n2.nabble.com> <90A195AD-BF83-4A15-B6F2-D1D45E434CDB@Web.DE> Message-ID: On May 30, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 30.05.2010 um 11:25 schrieb Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno: > >> Going through TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources I found the following PDFs: > > Earlier TeXShop versions had matrix and LaTeX (symbols etc.) palettes. Leftovers now... Palettes still there as LaTeX Panel Matrix Panel in the Window menu in my copy of TeXShop 2.33 Rob From cfrees at imapmail.org Sun May 30 23:21:02 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 22:21:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 22:11, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > How are ????? etc. right of the f-ligatures? On the XeTeX mailing list we > could exchange some graphics... I can't actually read the question. I should join the e XeX list, I think. (Only I already get so much email I never deal with!) In place of ^A^E^I^O^U, I get ~O (O with a tilde on top) then " then ^I (as expected) then aacute and agrave (possibly in reverse order I always confuse grave and acute). In place of ^a^e^i^o^u, I get curly double quote then ^e^i then Lslash then ^u. In place of "U, I get the fi ligature. In place of "a"e"i"o"u, I get ^E"e"i"o and Igrave. In place of OE, I get copyright. In place of copyright, I get half. >> Except that the output is wrong even for glyphs which Venturis >> definitely does contain. That's why I think there's another problem >> here. (e.g. the fi ligature is used instead of "U, copyright in place >> of OE and 1/2 in place of copyright etc.) And it isn't even all the >> Venturis fonts - only some of them. > > The TeX machinery finds the PostScript fonts, which are certainly not Unicode > encoded, first? Maybe you did not even enable the OT variants in Font Book > (since Tiger you can create a library and then fill it with font files)? No, they are definitely enabled and I ensured there are no duplicates. > >>> >> It isn't that I want to use them - I wanted to be sure XeLaTeX was >> *not* attempting to use them in the case of Venturis. > > > Either try the described two step approach or this: > > xelatex -output-driver='xdvipdfmx -vv' Ah. Thank you. > Fonts associated with a path name come from the file system, fonts without a > path name come from a font service. I get a path name for: - Latin Modern - Venturis ADF regular when I specify a location (as below) I get no path name for: - Venturis regular (without a location) - Venturis bold italic (without a location) and I get weirdness only for Venturis regular without a location... When you say they come from a font service, do you mean from the OS font management? Or from TeX's knowledge of fonts? > Fontspec also gives you the option to tell XeTeX the particular font file to > be used. Try that for ADF Venturis! Aha. That works. (I get the usual missing characters but not the weirdness.) Thanks, cfr From cfrees at imapmail.org Sun May 30 23:40:19 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 22:40:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <2FDF3657-E3C5-4350-9442-154479C42457@mpq.mpg.de> References: <1275127065761-5115954.post@n2.nabble.com> <78CDDCF4-AD1D-47A6-B1AC-C20D19F5991D@gmail.com> <93E9ABFA-03D6-40A8-8572-0D634F571D0F@free.fr> <2FDF3657-E3C5-4350-9442-154479C42457@mpq.mpg.de> Message-ID: On Sun 30th May, 2010 at 09:15, Oliver Buerschaper seems to have written: >> Embedding the TexLive Manager, and enabling on the fly install of missing packages ? la Miktex makes sense (this may be achieved via TexShop engines); > > Perhaps this would more naturally fit into a system preferences pane? Even an extension of the TeXDist pane? Note, too, that the Cocoa GUI for tlmgr does not work on pre-Leopard systems... - cfr From abellaic at math.jussieu.fr Sun May 30 23:56:41 2010 From: abellaic at math.jussieu.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?=) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 23:56:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: <593790D5-2D97-44A9-80C7-F633394DEE36@gmail.com> References: <593790D5-2D97-44A9-80C7-F633394DEE36@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A2A7477-60C4-4B62-B99E-7C624AC34D6B@math.jussieu.fr> Le 29 mai 2010 ? 21:09, Alain Schremmer a ?crit : > > On May 29, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Ferguson, Don wrote: > >> Greetings "Alain Schremmer" >> On 29/05/2010 at 13:21 you wrote concerning >> Re: [OS X TeX] Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts >> >> Hi Alain, >> >> <> >> AS>> PS: Note to the original poster: such queries belong to texlive >> AS>> mailing list >> >> AS> Well, if we are going to be that specialized, I thing about 90% of my >> AS> queries will have to be re-directed. But where to? Sigh! >> >> I suspect people consult this list because they get useful answers. That is my experience. :-) > > Truth of the matter, of course, is that the sigh was entirely academic and I never had any intention whatsoever of leaving this list. (I may be a fool, but not that much.) > > Best regards to all > --schremmer Well, I didn't know there existed a Texlive mailing list. Andr? From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 31 00:10:43 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 00:10:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> Message-ID: <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2010 um 23:21 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > and I get weirdness only for Venturis regular without a location... > > When you say they come from a font service, do you mean from the OS > font management? Or from TeX's knowledge of fonts? TeX has no knowledge of available fonts, it trusts in records and mappings ? and then fails... What I meant is the Mac OS X font service which, I think, XeTeX asks. Similarly on other platforms. Xdvipdfmx just accepts these results and forwards them into the PDF output. > >> Fontspec also gives you the option to tell XeTeX the particular >> font file to be used. Try that for ADF Venturis! > > Aha. That works. (I get the usual missing characters but not the > weirdness.) So you seem to have a "garbled font cache" ? possible cures: clean the font cache with utilities (you certainly remember from the time when pdfTeX had this nasty bug) and then reboot, or do a safe reboot (or such) and then a normal reboot, or install AppleJack and you can clean the caches, or fix the file systems, before booting into multi-user mode after a shutdown. -- Greetings Pete Imbecility, n.: A kind of divine inspiration, or sacred fire affecting censorious critics of this dictionary. ? Ambrose Bierce: _The Devil's Dictionary_ From vivrii at gmail.com Mon May 31 00:28:25 2010 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 18:28:25 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Looking for hebrew LaTeX fonts In-Reply-To: <2A2A7477-60C4-4B62-B99E-7C624AC34D6B@math.jussieu.fr> References: <593790D5-2D97-44A9-80C7-F633394DEE36@gmail.com> <2A2A7477-60C4-4B62-B99E-7C624AC34D6B@math.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Andr? Bella?che wrote: > > Le 29 mai 2010 ? 21:09, Alain Schremmer a ?crit : > > Well, I didn't know there existed a Texlive mailing list. > > Andr? There are plenty of mailing lists http://pipermail.tug.org/mailman/listinfo Some of them are extremely active and some are not, some are even dead. Depends what are you looking for. But texhax is a canonical list for all TeX questions and report possible bugs (as there are large number Unix but not MacOSX and even Windows users who are very knowledgeable and helpful) tex-live is a place to ask about texlive and get not only answers but to provide a real input what is included Other lists are much more specialized Victor -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Professor, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto http://www.math.toronto.edu/ivrii From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 04:37:48 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 03:37:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon 31st May, 2010 at 00:10, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 30.05.2010 um 23:21 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > >> and I get weirdness only for Venturis regular without a location... >> >> When you say they come from a font service, do you mean from the OS >> font management? Or from TeX's knowledge of fonts? > > TeX has no knowledge of available fonts, it trusts in records and mappings ? > and then fails... What I meant is the Mac OS X font service which, I think, > XeTeX asks. Similarly on other platforms. Xdvipdfmx just accepts these > results and forwards them into the PDF output. > That's what I thought originally, I think... >> >>> Fontspec also gives you the option to tell XeTeX the particular font file >>> to be used. Try that for ADF Venturis! >> >> Aha. That works. (I get the usual missing characters but not the >> weirdness.) > > > So you seem to have a "garbled font cache" ? possible cures: clean the font > cache with utilities (you certainly remember from the time when pdfTeX had > this nasty bug) I remember the discussions of it but was never affected by it. However, googling discovered instructions for clearing it. > and then reboot, or do a safe reboot (or such) and then a > normal reboot, or install AppleJack and you can clean the caches, or fix the > file systems, before booting into multi-user mode after a shutdown. At least, I removed /Library/Caches/com.apple.ATS, rebooted, re-disabled bunches of fonts in Font Book and re-resolved duplicates. I then re-typeset the file in TeXShop. I forgot to delete the old output, so I did that and typeset again. Still the same weirdness. I also remembered that the file ought not to have typeset with the usual XeLaTeX engine because I used External Location but it didn't complain and still typesets the line which specifies the file location correctly (bar missing characters) but not the line where the location is not specified. (Claim that it shouldn't work is based on the fontspec documentation which states this works only with xdvipdfmx and that this isn't the default on OS X.) So now I have some things working which shouldn't & some things not working which should?! Problems you never knew you had always turn out to be especially annoying... Thanks, cfr From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 04:47:34 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 03:47:34 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Working with many files in TeXShop In-Reply-To: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: On Sun 30th May, 2010 at 16:24, Claus Gerhardt seems to have written: > (6) Never use a MacBook or a small screen when writing a book or a larger paper. ???!!! Please try to remember that some of us use this list even though we (gasp) have only one computer or perhaps only one share of one computer. Nor do all of us have access to external displays to augment a laptop. - cfr From ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mon May 31 07:49:25 2010 From: ross.moore at mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:49:25 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> Message-ID: <4DE04FAA-3EAA-485B-A973-F27E5671B26B@mq.edu.au> Hi Clea, Peter and others, Firstly, sorry for the cross-posting. We want to move this discussion to the XeTeX list. On 31/05/2010, at 7:21 AM, wrote: > On Sat 29th May, 2010 at 22:11, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > >> >> How are ????? etc. right of the f-ligatures? On the XeTeX mailing >> list we could exchange some graphics... > > I can't actually read the question. I should join the e XeX list, I > think. (Only I already get so much email I never deal with!) > > In place of ^A^E^I^O^U, I get ~O (O with a tilde on top) then " > then ^I > (as expected) then aacute and agrave (possibly in reverse order I > always confuse grave and acute). As in the attached image? I get it too, with Regular only. Bold and Italic seem OK. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture 25.png Type: image/png Size: 105447 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > > In place of ^a^e^i^o^u, I get curly double quote then ^e^i then Lslash > then ^u. > > In place of "U, I get the fi ligature. > > In place of "a"e"i"o"u, I get ^E"e"i"o and Igrave. > > In place of OE, I get copyright. > > In place of copyright, I get half. > >>> Except that the output is wrong even for glyphs which Venturis >>> definitely does contain. That's why I think there's another problem >>> here. (e.g. the fi ligature is used instead of "U, copyright in >>> place >>> of OE and 1/2 in place of copyright etc.) And it isn't even all the >>> Venturis fonts - only some of them. Yes, only some fonts are bad. I'd doubt that this is a caching problem --- but am willing to stand corrected, should it turn out to be so. >> Either try the described two step approach or this: >> >> xelatex -output-driver='xdvipdfmx -vv' > > Ah. Thank you. > >> Fonts associated with a path name come from the file system, fonts >> without a path name come from a font service. > > I get a path name for: > - Latin Modern > - Venturis ADF regular when I specify a location (as below) > > I get no path name for: > - Venturis regular (without a location) > - Venturis bold italic (without a location) > > and I get weirdness only for Venturis regular without a location... Would you show exactly the command which worked, please? >> Fontspec also gives you the option to tell XeTeX the particular >> font file to be used. Try that for ADF Venturis! > > Aha. That works. (I get the usual missing characters but not the > weirdness.) I can show you how to replace the missing characters with accents built as with older LaTeX styles, but while still using proper accented characters for those which *are* in the font. ... and not redefining accent-macros for other fonts in the same document which may actually support everything properly. It's a bit more cumbersome than it should be, but it *does* work. In the image, you'll see that \^W \^Y etc. use this. There is a bit of a glitch in that the accents are placed a tiny bit higher than those over the pre-built characters. So there needs to be an extra font-specific vertical adjustment. > > Thanks, > cfr Hope this helps, Ross ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross.moore at mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 (0)2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 (0)2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From ramonf at hawaii.edu Mon May 31 09:47:37 2010 From: ramonf at hawaii.edu (=?UTF-8?Q?Ram=C3=B3n_Figueroa-Centeno?=) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 00:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Which one is forbidden : or /? Subtleties of dealing with file names in TeXShop Macros Message-ID: <1275292057864-5120843.post@n2.nabble.com> Aloha, Which one is forbidden : or /? If you try to name a file in the Finder and use a colon (:) in its name then you will get a warning about this being forbidden. This has been the way since the beginnings of the Macintosh (my memory of this only goes back to 1985), as colons are used as delimiters in paths to files. Now, you can name a file in the Finder using forward slashes (/). However, Mac OS X is a front end for UNIX, where forward slashes are forbidden in file names, right? So what Apple did was the following compromise, if you name a file in the Finder with forward slashes then internally those are replaced by colons. For example, if you have a file in the Finder named ?/data/.tex? and then you peek at it in the Terminal you will see that its name is actually ?:data:.tex?. So If you are referring to such a file in an Applescript beware of this situation. To ses this for yourself, create a document in TeXShop named /data/.tex (do not hide the file extension) and run the following script form the Applescript Editor: tell application "TeXShop" set POSIX_path to path of the front document set Mac_name to (name of the front document) as string end tell tell me set POSIX_name to do shell script "basename '" & POSIX_path & "'" display dialog POSIX_name & return & Mac_name end tell You should get: :data:.tex /data/.tex Now, go to the Finder, get info for /data/.tex and then click "Hide extension". Run the script again. Now, you get: :data:.tex /data/ So imagine that you have a script that takes UNIX path and from there it gets the name of the document and from there starts to do other stuff. Such a situation arises when you tell TeXShop to open a document, to which you refer by its path, and then work with the document to which you refer by its "Finder" name. Then you have to be careful to change in the name every ":" to "/", try to access the file with its extension (e.g., .tex) using a "try" statement and "on error" try to access it without the extension. Ram?n -- View this message in context: http://macosx-tex.576846.n2.nabble.com/Which-one-is-forbidden-or-Subtleties-of-dealing-with-file-names-in-TeXShop-Macros-tp5120843p5120843.html Sent from the MacOSX-TeX mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 31 11:00:20 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 11:00:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Which one is forbidden : or /? Subtleties of dealing with file names in TeXShop Macros In-Reply-To: <1275292057864-5120843.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1275292057864-5120843.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <44AC7C47-DED0-4671-B976-FFEEDA70B802@Web.DE> Am 31.05.2010 um 09:47 schrieb Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno: > Which one is forbidden : or /? Both. The former is used as path separator in classic Mac OS, the latter does the same for recent Mac OS X. BTW, I save from time to time via the print service web sites or rather just pages as PDF. The title of such a page can contain slashes or colons. This title is gladly used to build the file name. While the colon is not substituted, slashes are turned into underscores... Magic! -- Greetings Pete Bake pizza not war! From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 31 11:33:53 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 11:33:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> Message-ID: <0F7A6FD7-8936-4028-A1A1-9E5BFD97BB6C@Web.DE> Am 31.05.2010 um 04:37 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > At least, I removed /Library/Caches/com.apple.ATS, rebooted, I don't have this file on Leopard, but com.apple.psnormalizer.fontcache.501 (501 is my UID). Instead ATSServer has its cache in the /private/var/folders tree. ('top -l 1 | grep ATS' will give you two lines, the one with the smaller PID runs with your UID, so use now 'lsof -p ' so see the files it has opened) > (Claim that it shouldn't work is based on the > fontspec documentation which states this works only with xdvipdfmx and > that this isn't the default on OS X.) The default XDV -> PDF convertor in Mac OS X is since TeX Live 2008 xdvipdfmx. > > So now I have some things working which shouldn't & some things not > working which should?! You could try again with some utility to clean the font caches... Before try to organise the fonts in Font Book in Libraries and Collections, switching them off to resolve duplicates. -- Greetings Pete Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. - Tony-A (some guy on /.) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 31 12:01:09 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 12:01:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <4DE04FAA-3EAA-485B-A973-F27E5671B26B@mq.edu.au> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <4DE04FAA-3EAA-485B-A973-F27E5671B26B@mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <0E15742B-9725-4653-A42B-8C717F5E1CDD@Web.DE> Am 31.05.2010 um 07:49 schrieb Ross Moore: > As in the attached image? With the unchanged \fytest macro I don't get this overstriking effect with {\fontspec{Venturis ADF}\fytest \textbf{\fytest} \textit{\fytest} \textbf{\itshape\fytest}} and in all font variants at exactly the same place the unavailability sign. ?, ?, ?, and ? have at their left side more kerning (ligaturing, melting effect), too much IMO, than on the right side. -- Greetings Pete They're putting dimes in the hole in my head to see the change in me. From lfsequeira at gmail.com Mon May 31 13:01:03 2010 From: lfsequeira at gmail.com (Luis Sequeira) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 12:01:03 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request Message-ID: > Greetings "Herbert Schulz" > On 29/05/2010 at 14:54 you wrote concerning > Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request > > Hello Herb, > > <> > > HS> Something like that used with a BasicTeX distribution (much smaller that the full TeX Live distribution supplied with the MacTeX installer) might be handy. > > I agree. Before I had a Mac machine I tried to install BasicTeX on a friend's iMac, but I guess my downloads were inadequate since we could not get anything to install. The MacTeX download is both amazing and humungous, but it worked flawlessly on my friend's iMac and now on mine. But for beginners, perhaps BasicTeX would be a less intimidating introduction. When your TeX legs become stable, then move up to TeXShop and friends! > > <> > > > Cheers Don (Green Dragon) > -- I think that the best thing for a beginner is that things really work. Having a document fail to typeset because something is missing, and telling a beginner that he has to install additional packages is not my idea of easy. Nowadays I find it hard to justify not installing the full thing (either being MacTex, or TeX Live, or MikTex). It just saves headaches later, beginners or otherwise. Luis Sequeira From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 31 14:33:40 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:33:40 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> Message-ID: <7FE049F1-8E76-4592-B697-0BAE8CF25884@wideopenwest.com> On May 30, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > So you seem to have a "garbled font cache" ? possible cures: clean the font cache with utilities (you certainly remember from the time when pdfTeX had this nasty bug) and then reboot, or do a safe reboot (or such) and then a normal reboot, or install AppleJack and you can clean the caches, or fix the file systems, before booting into multi-user mode after a shutdown. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > Howdy, One side note: As far as I know there is no AppleJack for Snow Leopard. I'd love to find out different since this a handy utility to use in Single User Mode to fix all sorts of things. Maybe the work done by doing a Safe Boot now does the same thing in Snow Leopard? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 31 14:41:50 2010 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:41:50 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> On May 31, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote: > > Nowadays I find it hard to justify not installing the full thing (either being MacTex, or TeX Live, or MikTex). It just saves headaches later, beginners or otherwise. > > Luis Sequeira > Howdy, I agree that it saves all sorts of problems but take pity on the folks who have to pay by the MB for downloaded data. I don't know how widespread that is any more. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 31 14:57:04 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:57:04 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88E0D464-57BB-420F-9B02-EE8972449A62@gmail.com> On May 31, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote: > I think that the best thing for a beginner is that things really work. > Having a document fail to typeset because something is missing, and > telling a beginner that he has to install additional packages is > not my idea of easy. > > Nowadays I find it hard to justify not installing the full thing > (either being MacTex, or TeX Live, or MikTex). It just saves > headaches later, beginners or otherwise. I totally agree: I used to unbend, keep and reuse old nails. Not anymore. Old beginner's regards --schremmer From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 31 15:02:10 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:02:10 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> On May 31, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > pay by the MB for downloaded data I had no idea. Really? Sympathetic regards --schremmer From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 18:51:36 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:51:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <0F7A6FD7-8936-4028-A1A1-9E5BFD97BB6C@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> <0F7A6FD7-8936-4028-A1A1-9E5BFD97BB6C@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon 31st May, 2010 at 11:33, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 31.05.2010 um 04:37 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > >> At least, I removed /Library/Caches/com.apple.ATS, rebooted, > > I don't have this file on Leopard, but com.apple.psnormalizer.fontcache.501 > (501 is my UID). Instead ATSServer has its cache in the /private/var/folders > tree. ('top -l 1 | grep ATS' will give you two lines, the one with the > smaller PID runs with your UID, so use now 'lsof -p ' so see the > files it has opened) > Font caches changed in Leopard. I'm on Tiger, so the /Library/Caches/com.apple.ATS should be correct. Using ps to get the PID for lsof confirms this. (The only other ordinary file open is under /System and should not, I think be deleted as it is not a temporary cache file.) >> (Claim that it shouldn't work is based on the >> fontspec documentation which states this works only with xdvipdfmx and >> that this isn't the default on OS X.) > > The default XDV -> PDF convertor in Mac OS X is since TeX Live 2008 > xdvipdfmx. > So the fontspec documentation is just out of date - thanks. >> >> So now I have some things working which shouldn't & some things not >> working which should?! > > > You could try again with some utility to clean the font caches... Before try > to organise the fonts in Font Book in Libraries and Collections, switching > them off to resolve duplicates. > I tend to avoid utilities where possible (especially GUI utilities). I trust myself at the command line more... (perhaps foolishly, perhaps not). That way, I at least know exactly what was done or misdone! I've already re-resolved duplicates in Font Book. (Except for Math Mono 3 which always claims an unresolved duplicate which Font Book nonetheless never seems able to identify - but this is an Apple-supplied font, I think, and has always appeared this way.) I doubt now that this is a font cache issue... (but that doesn't mean I'm not wrong!) - cfr From alain.matthes at mac.com Mon May 31 19:17:45 2010 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:17:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Ipad Iphone and epub Message-ID: <3B5F49EC-FAA2-41B3-BF48-47CE5CE90E04@mac.com> Hi What do you think about this conference? I have some difficulties with the english language and I would like to understand how teX is used in this demo http://river-valley.tv/epub-is-the-only-format-we-need/ Best Regards Alain Matthes From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 19:54:08 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (Dr. Clea F. Rees) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 18:54:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] tug.ctan.org upload: cfr-lm (fwd) Message-ID: Just in case anyone was interested in trying my enhanced Latin Modern support, I uploaded a new version to CTAN which now includes fancy (well, fancier) documentation. This is still experimental, so you need to install it but step-by-step instructions (for a TeX Live setup) are now included as well as usage information. (I said I'd write documentation if anybody at all expressed any interest and somebody did...) If you *do* try it, please do let me know how you get on with it, whether your experiences are good or bad. The main reason the package is experimental is because it has only been tested on one machine - mine - which is a fairly limited basis for any conclusions one might wish to draw regarding its usability and stability. Actually, I believe at least one other person has tried it and one other was planning to, but still... Thanks, cfr ........................................................................... The following information was provided by our fellow contributor: Name of contribution: cfr-lm Version number: 1.3 (for lm 2.004) Author's name: Clea F. Rees Author's email: cfrees imapmail org Location on CTAN: /macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm Summary description: Enhanced support for the Latin Modern fonts. License type: lppl Announcement text: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Now with added documentation! The package supports a number of features of the Latin Modern fonts which are not easily accessible via the default (La)TeX support provided in the official distribution. In particular, the package supports the use of the various styles of digits available, oblique small-caps and upright italic shapes, and alternative weights and widths. It also supports the variable width typewriter, "dunhill" and ?quotation? fonts. Version 2.004 of the Latin Modern fonts is supported. By default, the package uses proportional oldstyle digits and variable width typewriter but this can be changed by passing appropriate options to the package. The package also supports using e.g. different styles of digits within a document so it is possible to use proportional oldstyle digits by default, say, but tabular lining digits within a particular table. See the documenation for details. The package requires the official Latin Modern distribution, including its (La)TeX support. The package relies on the availability of both the fonts themselves and the official font support files. The package also makes use of the nfssext-cfr package. Only the T1 and TS1 encodings are supported for text fonts. The set up of fonts for mathematics is identical to that provided by Latin Modern. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This package is located at http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/cfr-lm . More information is at http://tug.ctan.org/pkg/cfr-lm (if the package is new it may take a day for that information to appear). We are supported by the TeX Users Group http://www.tug.org . Please join a users group; see http://www.tug.org/usergroups.html . Notes to maintainers: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is identical to the version uploaded a few days ago except that documentation is added (cfr-lm.tex, cfr-lm.pdf), the README now refers to the documentation instead of giving a list of commands, and the file manifest.txt has been updated to reflect the two additions. Also, I think I forgot to put a symbolic link in the top-level directory last time - now it has two though I'm not sure this is really correct. I said I'd write some if anyone at all showed any interest and someone did, so here it is... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Please reply to the list ctan (at) dante.de. Please do not send materials; instead use the upload form. From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 20:05:25 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:05:25 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <0E15742B-9725-4653-A42B-8C717F5E1CDD@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <4DE04FAA-3EAA-485B-A973-F27E5671B26B@mq.edu.au> <0E15742B-9725-4653-A42B-8C717F5E1CDD@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon 31st May, 2010 at 12:01, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 31.05.2010 um 07:49 schrieb Ross Moore: > >> As in the attached image? > > > With the unchanged \fytest macro I don't get this overstriking effect with > > {\fontspec{Venturis ADF}\fytest > > \textbf{\fytest} > > \textit{\fytest} > > \textbf{\itshape\fytest}} > > and in all font variants at exactly the same place the unavailability sign. I don't see the overstriking effect either. But I get the same incorrect characters for Venturis ADF regular (as opposed to bold, italic etc.) I only *don't* get the incorrect characters if I specify the otf font file explicitly. > ?, ?, ?, and ? have at their left side more kerning (ligaturing, melting > effect), too much IMO, than on the right side. Thanks for the feedback - I'll pass this on. (I don't have anything to do with the font design.) Thanks, cfr > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > They're putting dimes in the hole in my head to see the change in me. > From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 20:32:19 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:32:19 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Which one is forbidden : or /? Subtleties of dealing with file names in TeXShop Macros In-Reply-To: <44AC7C47-DED0-4671-B976-FFEEDA70B802@Web.DE> References: <1275292057864-5120843.post@n2.nabble.com> <44AC7C47-DED0-4671-B976-FFEEDA70B802@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon 31st May, 2010 at 11:00, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 31.05.2010 um 09:47 schrieb Ram?n Figueroa-Centeno: > >> Which one is forbidden : or /? > > > Both. The former is used as path separator in classic Mac OS, the latter does > the same for recent Mac OS X. > > > BTW, I save from time to time via the print service web sites or rather just > pages as PDF. The title of such a page can contain slashes or colons. This > title is gladly used to build the file name. While the colon is not > substituted, slashes are turned into underscores... Magic! There's also a command line utility called detox which can be used to "detoxify" filenames and is configurable. Every file I download or save off the web or from email is detoxified in this way - either by Firefox on download or, in other cases, by a launch agent set up with a watch folder. Either way, detox detoxifies the name, clamav scans the file and the script moves the download to an incoming folder. Launch agents are neat inventions for clean-up! - cfr From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 31 21:44:53 2010 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:44:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> <0F7A6FD7-8936-4028-A1A1-9E5BFD97BB6C@Web.DE> Message-ID: <8019235C-0D1D-4ADF-9977-CC09B4A740CE@Web.DE> Am 31.05.2010 um 18:51 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > I've already re-resolved duplicates in Font Book. (Except for Math > Mono > 3 which always claims an unresolved duplicate which Font Book > nonetheless never seems able to identify - but this is an > Apple-supplied font, I think, and has always appeared this way.) It's not Apple supplied, at least it's not part of Mac OS X 10.4. It could come from Wolfram Research/Mathematica... > > I doubt now that this is a font cache issue... (but that doesn't mean > I'm not wrong!) Then it could be an OS/XeTeX issue. XeTeX seems to become Tiger (and maybe Leopard as well) incompatible since Apple has dropped AAT and ATSUI in Snow Leopard. Therefore, if you want to use XeTeX more, you should update. I'll boot next month into my saved Tiger installation on an external disk and see what XeTeX TL '07-'10 will produce. -- Greetings Pete When in doubt, use brute force. ? Ken Thompson From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Mon May 31 22:15:49 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:15:49 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> Message-ID: <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> Alain, Yes that is the case here in NZ. It is very expensive. Alan On 1/06/2010, at 1:02 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 31, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >> pay by the MB for downloaded data > > I had no idea. > Really? > > Sympathetic regards > --schremmer -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Mon May 31 22:30:20 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:30:20 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Ipad Iphone and epub In-Reply-To: <3B5F49EC-FAA2-41B3-BF48-47CE5CE90E04@mac.com> References: <3B5F49EC-FAA2-41B3-BF48-47CE5CE90E04@mac.com> Message-ID: Frankly that is a horrible thought. Imagine if all texts were only to be marked up with xhtml and css style sheets. ugh. epub suits a large number of ebook readers but that a limitation of the technology. Alan On 1/06/2010, at 5:17 AM, Alain Matthes wrote: > Hi > > What do you think about this conference? > I have some difficulties with the english language and > I would like to understand how teX is used in this demo > > > http://river-valley.tv/epub-is-the-only-format-we-need/ > > Best Regards > > Alain Matthes > > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 31 23:20:36 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:20:36 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: On May 31, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Alain, > > Yes that is the case here in NZ. It is very expensive. > > Alan There is currently a big offensive here in the US for big business to control the web. So, we will probably end up there too. Regards --schremmer > > On 1/06/2010, at 1:02 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > >> >> On May 31, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> >>> pay by the MB for downloaded data >> >> I had no idea. >> Really? >> >> Sympathetic regards >> --schremmer > > -- > Alan T Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice > > ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting ----------- > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Reminders and Etiquette: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > List Archive: http://tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/ > TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/ > List Info: http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex > From cfrees at imapmail.org Mon May 31 23:20:55 2010 From: cfrees at imapmail.org (cfrees at imapmail.org) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 22:20:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Accented characters in Xe(La)TeX In-Reply-To: <8019235C-0D1D-4ADF-9977-CC09B4A740CE@Web.DE> References: <44BE0E6A-F5E3-4FD8-BF24-44D56BB6AAF3@Web.DE> <269523A3-6223-4450-9D56-F4B2F70FAD5C@Web.DE> <6F7F7BDF-C342-4BEC-BA78-2C4E48449E99@Web.DE> <0F7A6FD7-8936-4028-A1A1-9E5BFD97BB6C@Web.DE> <8019235C-0D1D-4ADF-9977-CC09B4A740CE@Web.DE> Message-ID: On Mon 31st May, 2010 at 21:44, Peter Dyballa seems to have written: > > Am 31.05.2010 um 18:51 schrieb cfrees at imapmail.org: > >> I've already re-resolved duplicates in Font Book. (Except for Math Mono >> 3 which always claims an unresolved duplicate which Font Book >> nonetheless never seems able to identify - but this is an >> Apple-supplied font, I think, and has always appeared this way.) > > It's not Apple supplied, at least it's not part of Mac OS X 10.4. It could > come from Wolfram Research/Mathematica... > Ah. It won't be from Mathematica - must be something else. (I thought I got all the non-OS, non-TL fonts out of /Library/Fonts. Sigh. I did have a list at one point...) >> >> I doubt now that this is a font cache issue... (but that doesn't mean >> I'm not wrong!) > > > Then it could be an OS/XeTeX issue. XeTeX seems to become Tiger (and maybe > Leopard as well) incompatible since Apple has dropped AAT and ATSUI in Snow > Leopard. Therefore, if you want to use XeTeX more, you should update. Not an option - Snow Leopard won't run on PPC. Personally, I only play with XeTeX but as far as I can tell it works fine with most fonts. I've been trying to troubleshoot an issue for somebody using Venturis under XeLaTeX. Experimentation revealed this (possibly distinct; possibly connected) problem. > I'll > boot next month into my saved Tiger installation on an external disk and see > what XeTeX TL '07-'10 will produce. > Is Ross using Tiger? If so, that would suggest a Tiger/XeTeX incompatibility. But it is still weird that it works fine if the file is specified explicitly and fine for bold, italic and bold-italic... Thanks, cfr From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Mon May 31 23:24:44 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan T Litchfield) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:24:44 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: <61853896-762B-4E11-97DE-5E68DF02E36B@alphabyte.co.nz> Hope not. We have a monopoly situation where nearly all traffic goes through the same telecomms provider. They get to charge what they like and the lilly-livered government has failed to regulate it. Alan On 1/06/2010, at 9:20 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 31, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> Alain, >> >> Yes that is the case here in NZ. It is very expensive. >> >> Alan > > There is currently a big offensive here in the US for big business > to control the web. So, we will probably end up there too. > Regards > --schremmer > > -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From schremmer.alain at gmail.com Mon May 31 23:29:54 2010 From: schremmer.alain at gmail.com (Alain Schremmer) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:29:54 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: <61853896-762B-4E11-97DE-5E68DF02E36B@alphabyte.co.nz> References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> <61853896-762B-4E11-97DE-5E68DF02E36B@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: On May 31, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Hope not. > > We have a monopoly situation where nearly all traffic goes through > the same telecomms provider. They get to charge what they like and > the lilly-livered government has failed to regulate it. Not too sure what the details are here but my understanding is that the big ones are all of one mind on this one. So, de facto, ... Despondent regards --schremmer From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Mon May 31 23:49:43 2010 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:49:43 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop Feature Request In-Reply-To: References: <49794E36-26D5-4990-9202-8060B7BA0679@wideopenwest.com> <8B3F66CA-5733-40B3-B5B3-FFF64D271225@gmail.com> <460C434D-8B93-4977-89F4-E9BB72BA7F3F@alphabyte.co.nz> <61853896-762B-4E11-97DE-5E68DF02E36B@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: <49858.202.27.210.163.1275342583.squirrel@webmail.ak.planet.gen.nz> Yes, Alain. You have it :/ But, that is why I maintain the CTAN mirror here, at least locals can get access to packages and TeXLive, etc. without international charge :) Alan Alain Schremmer wrote: > > On May 31, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > >> Hope not. >> >> We have a monopoly situation where nearly all traffic goes through >> the same telecomms provider. They get to charge what they like and >> the lilly-livered government has failed to regulate it. > > Not too sure what the details are here but my understanding is that > the big ones are all of one mind on this one. So, de facto, ... > > Despondent regards > --schremmer -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, 1140, Auckland, New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice From fergdc at uleth.ca Mon May 31 21:10:34 2010 From: fergdc at uleth.ca (Ferguson, Don) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:10:34 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Working with many files in TeXShop In-Reply-To: <4F80C3DD-6D36-41B9-95D2-B3A056CDBECA@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: Greetings "Claus Gerhardt" On 30/05/2010 at 14:24 you wrote concerning [OS X TeX] Working with many files in TeXShop Hi Claus, <> Thank you for the tips. Useful here. CG> (5) When you have a large screen and a modern Mac use Flashmode, then you will immediately notice when a compilation error occurs and consulting the log is only rarely necessary. My iMac is about one month old, so it should be "modern"! But what is Flashmode? Cheers Don (Green Dragon) --