[OS X TeX] New Editor.

[Alain Schremmer]

On May 2, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote:

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> On May 2, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
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>> On May 1, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
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>>> On May 1, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
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>>>> On May 1, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
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>>>>> I've just run across a new editor that is in beta at this time  
>>>>> that may have some interesting features for some folks (e.g., a  
>>>>> side panel with a document outline). Go to <http:// 
>>>>> deliciouscode.com/> for more information. Oh... it seems to  
>>>>> need OS X 10.5.x and is universal.
>>>>
>>>> Given that the site is a .com, I would assume that TeXWriter  
>>>> will eventually become proprietary. Given that it is soliciting  
>>>> bug reports etc, it reminds me of the GraceNote incident a few  
>>>> years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> So what?  Soliciting bug reports is beneficial for users and for  
>>> the developer, providing the developer acts on them.  I submit  
>>> bug reports and feature requests to commercial software  
>>> developers regularly, if they provide a mechanism for it and have  
>>> demonstrated that it's worth my time.  Apple is seldom  
>>> responsive, but visualdatatools.com, wavemetrics.com, and  
>>> stone.com are great examples of well-supported commercial  
>>> applications.
>>
>> I entirely agree of course. But there is a bit of a difference in  
>> this case. At this point, we are invited to download the app  
>> freely and this is where the ambiguity arises: when I "submit bug  
>> reports and feature requests" to, say, Intaglio, I know without  
>> doubt that it is a commercial application since I bought it. i  
>> wonder how the people who might feel they have contributed to the  
>> development will feel if there suddenly is a price tag on the app— 
>> which I was not able to try since I am still on 10-4. Call me  
>> naïve but it seems to me that a clear notice as to whether or not  
>> TeXWriter will eventually be for sale wouldn't have hurt.
>>
>> Regards
>> --schremmer
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>
> Howdy,
>
> Then why are you making a list of feature requests for TeXShop? Why  
> should anyone report a bug for any free software? While bugs have  
> to be prioritized since those working on free software have other  
> jobs and limited resources they do get fixed and the software  
> remains free.

I did not make myself clear and/or I do not understand.

I have indeed no objection to "giving help" to the development of  
either free (e.g.TeXShop) or commercial apps (e.g. Intaglio).

I do object to "soliciting help under false pretenses", namely  
soliciting/accepting help for "free" software and then going  
commercial once the software has matured.

The situation is perfectly clear for both TeXShop and Intaglio but a  
bit ambiguous in the case of TeXWriter. As I wrote, it would be nice  
if a clarifying statement were posted as to whether or not the  
software will "remain free".

Regards
--schremmer