[OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request
schremmer.alain at gmail.com
Sun Mar 8 01:45:06 CET 2009
On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:34 PM, David Watson wrote:
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:29 PM, cfrees at imapmail.org wrote:
>> Re.: tabs vs. windows
>> However, I'm not so sure now. I find it hard to think through whether
>> I'd prefer tabs or not. I've got so used to tabs in other contexts
>> (Firefox and screen, mostly) and I can imagine finding them useful. I
> There is a big difference between the expectations of a web-browser
> and an editor for a marked-up language.
> Web-browsing requires the user to click on links and fill in forms.
> While editing a document doesn't require another window in the
> context of WYSIWYG, it does in the context of TeX.
> Apart from the historical pretext of WYSIWYG vs markup, there was
> another factor that led to the implementation of previewers;
> without a preview, you could end up wasting reams of paper in the
> process of preparing a manuscript with TeX.
> With a preview you could look at the output and decide if What You
> Wrote Was What You Intended.
> In the old days, people would actually use the little error boxes
> that you get in draft mode with TeX to make sure that the final
> document met some sort of standard, the particulars of which Knuth
> described in the TeXBook.
> No one uses that much anymore, and the focus has shifted on making
> things as simple as possible for the latest fool who can't leave
> well enough alone.
> In the process, the workflow has also shifted from paying attention
> first and foremost to content, to trying to emulate a WYSIWYG
> workflow. (Not that there is anything wrong with that)
> One application which comes close to satisfying the disparate
> requirements of novices and wizards is the VueScan application,
> which allows users to choose their level of expertise, and modify
> the application interface based on that choice.
> I am reminded of the "simplified Finder" choice Apple used offered
> in Mac OS 9. (maybe even before?)
> While the simplified Finder and VueScan approaches allow one to
> choose an appropriate "depth of interface", before or during the
> interaction, respectively, I just don't know how well such choices
> play out in the field of TeX.
> Too little choice, and you get people writing diatribes about such
> matters on mailing lists for years on end.
> Too much choice, and the novice is faced with trying to make
> decisions on the front-end that require a depth of knowledge that
> is not yet possessed.
> I think TeXShop meets the requirements of the novice category very
> nicely as it stands.
> While having multiple source files in one window with tabs sounds
> great, I wonder how many messages are going to be generated on this
> list about how to 'turn off tabbing when using different master
> files' or 'how can I get it NOT to turn off tabbing when I have two
> different master files'...
> And I ABSOLUTELY abhor the "file tree" in the left hand pane as an
> Right now that is not an issue, but I assure you it will be if the
> 'tabbing' craze is followed to its logical conclusion.
> At such a point, I think novices (on the PC side) will have chosen
> TeXworks, and they will put pressure on their Mac colleagues to use
> the same because it is cross-platform.
> Is 'tabbing' going to be the 'selling point' for TeXShop?
> I hope not, but then again, it would be better to hear from new
> users instead of grumpy old men like me.
When, on March 7, 2009 7:50:04 AM EST I thought to revive the thread,
little did I know!
Slightly embarrassed regards
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