[OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting

Herbert Schulz herbs at wideopenwest.com
Fri May 27 19:38:11 CEST 2005

On May 27, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:

> Le 27 mai 05 à 15:57, Herbert Schulz a écrit :
>> One thing I don't like is that Mail encourages top posting in  
>> replies since the cursor is initially at the top of the page. I've  
>> got my Signature at the bottom of the page, where I want it, but  
>> I'd like the cursor to start just below the quoted text. Is there  
>> a way for me to have Mail do that?
> I thought there was an option in Mail to control that (top-posting  
> or bottom-posting), but I can't find it any longer now.


There seems to be an option that determines whether the Signature  
goes before or after the quoted text but even with my Signature after  
the cursor starts before the quote. I guess I can live with it. Maybe  
it will get me to look over the quote better; a bright side to the  

> ...
> One more thing about Mail in Tiger: it uses a custom format for  
> mailboxes, no longer the Unix format which was the norm up to and  
> including Panther. Namely, you no longer have a single huge plain  
> text "mbox" file inside a .mbox bundle, but a multitude of .emlx  
> files, one per message. Which means, once your mailboxes will have  
> been converted by Mail for use in Tiger, that you will lose the  
> ability to migrate them afterwards to another mailer should you  
> decide a switch. The mbox file at the time of the conversion will  
> be kept, but none of the messages received afterwards will be added  
> to it.
> ...

I know that and I thought I heard that there was an option somewhere  
to Export the mailboxes and that would produce an .mbox file. I can't  
find it now... but the last message on <http:// 
discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13 at 385.pb9gaso8YoL.0@.68b06d6a/1> is  
not very encouraging.

> ...
>> There are a few other gripes, e.g., the Finder Find is crippled  
>> since it is Spotlight based and won't look into ``hidden'' folders  
>> like /bin/. I'm back to using Locator, which uses the locate  
>> database (updated automatically by Macaroni every week), to do  
>> those kinds of searches.
> It's not absolutely necessary to do this:
>  (missing instructions on how to do this)
> You're done. I find this extremely inconvenient, and I do hope  
> that, at some point, a pref will be added to go back to good ole'  
> Panther Find window.
> ...

You said it!

> ...
> - From the command line, using the "defaults" command. In Terminal,  
> type
>     defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES
> See <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Porting/Conceptual/ 
> PortingUnix/additionalfeatures/chapter_10_section_7.html>.
> - Assuming you've installed Xcode, double-click on ~/Library/ 
> Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist. This will open the file in  
> Property List editor. Click on the Root triangle at the top left of  
> the window, press the button "New Child", then enter  
> AppleShowAllFiles, then Boolean, then Yes. I found this this  
> morning in "OS X in a Nutshell" (extremely useful book, halfway  
> between hard-core Mac OS and GUI on one hand, and hard-core Unix  
> and CLI on the other hand), I can't wait for the Tiger version.
> After either way, when you log out then on, or simply relaunch the  
> Finder, you'll see all normally invisible files and folders appear  
> magically. However, as some have remarked on the OS X forums  
> <http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13@412.y0b1acwBYhi.6@. 
> 68ade492/1>, all the icons, for either visible or invisible files,  
> are dimmed (though effective). It's open to interpretation whether  
> that's a bug or an intended behaviour, to discourage the user from  
> activating the option (knowing that trashing some invisible  
> directories can render the system completely unusable and  
> irrecoverable, forcing a new install).

I thought about doing this but I don't really want to see all  
the .xxx files too and the discussion you mention on the OS X Forum  
seems to indicate that the side effects aren't good. I think once  
someone finds what Tiger uses instead of the .hidden file a quick  
piece of freeware will fix this problem.

So far when Tiger is good it's very, very good and when it's rotten...

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest.com)

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