[OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk?
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Wed May 18 18:36:51 CEST 2005
Am 18.05.2005 um 18:13 schrieb Curtis Clifton:
>> We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what
>> advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all
>> fields of an entry.
> Imagine that you need to put 6 different papers from a conference
> proceedings in your bib file. With cross references you can create
> a single entry carrying all the general information for the
> proceedings (conference name, location, month, year, publisher,
> series, volume, number, editor, ...). Then the entries for each
> paper only need the paper title, authors, page numbers, and the
> cross-reference. This can be a significant savings in data entry.
> This was especially true before BibDesk came along with its
> automatic completion of entries. Another advantage is that a data
> entry mistake in something like the name of the conference only
> needs to be corrected in one place, instead of 6.
I strongly support this -- if you work with many proceedings or
collections, crossrefs are priceless.
There is another advantage however: Crossreferenced items appear
automatically in the bibliography if more than 2 (by default, this
can be changed by calling bibtex as "bibtex --min-crossrefs=x") items
AFAIK this behavior is only possible when you are using real crossrefs.
> It seems to me that if an entry has a cross reference, then the
> data in the referenced entry should appear in the editing window
> for the referencing entry but shouldn't be editable there. Perhaps
> a small arrow icon could appear next to the non-editable field.
> Clicking this icon would open the referenced entry for editing.
> Maybe dragging one entry onto the edit window for another could be
> used to establish a cross reference. Searches should show the
> entries that would match if the cross-referenced data were in-lined.
Yes, something like this was very desirable for a later version!
> I don't know the precise semantics of cross references. For
> example, what happens if an entry contains a booktitle, but also
> has a cross reference to a book entry? Does BibTeX use the
> booktitle from the original entry, or does it use the title from
> the cross-referenced entry?
Crossrefs only replace fields which are not present in the original
> Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references
> make the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to
> automatically sort so that referenced items appear after
> referencing items (assuming no cycles in the referencing graph).
That can't happen, since referenced items must not contain crossrefs
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