[OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk?
macplanet at macnews.de
Wed May 18 18:00:11 CEST 2005
>> I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can
>> tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it
>> unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have
>> large bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of
>> information when several articles are from the same collection.
> Just to be clear: BibDesk supports items with the crossref field
> just fine. You can add it, edit it, and save it.
This is true in the sense that BibDesk in fact does not break
anything in a .bib file containing crossrefs.
However there are two or three problems with crossrefs which make it
(at least) uncomfortable to work with crossrefs:
- The Title/Booktitle problem.
Crossrefs will not reference to the correct title of the referenced
book or whatever if the book's title is given only in the Title, but
not in the Booktitle field.
Of course you can easily fill out the booktitle field manually, but
it was much nicer if BibDesk could copy the content of the Title
field to Booktitle automatically for types like book, proceedings etc.
- The sorting problem.
Crossrefs work only if the referenced items appear after the
referencing items in the .bib file.
This means that in the moment if you have a .bib file like
(with the Inbooks referencing to the Book), only the first Inbook
will work, the second one will not. (see ch. 13.2.5 in the Companion)
There is also a problem with the preview, which of course does not
show referenced items at the moment.
While full crossref support (i.e. BibDesk showing the referenced
information automatically etc.) was nice but not necessary, the items
mentioned above, especially the sorting problem, imho are crucial and
will cause some problems for everybody using crossrefs!
I am not sure how the sorting could be done easily, but (as I had
already suggested) perhaps it is possible to add a field which
contains information about the desired sort order, such as giving all
Inbooks a smaller number than the Books etc.
After that, Bibtool could do the sorting quite easily, and perhaps
even could be called by BibDesk.
> Nothing has been done, or will be done for version 1, because we
> (the developers) have no clear idea of what people who use this
> feature want. It's unfortunate that BibDesk is unusable for you,
> although I know a number of people (myself included) who are using
> BibDesk with large files.
> If anyone has suggestions for crossref, please note them in this
> RFE to we can track the issue <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/
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