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Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
by "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Package for slides... looking for recommendations
by "Fredrik Wallenberg" <fwallenberg at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
by "Gary L. Gray" <gray at lpcm.esm.psu.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
by "J.Huelsmann" <J.Huelsmann at tu-bs.de>
teTeX.dmg updated
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX.dmg updated
by "Gary L. Gray" <gray at lpcm.esm.psu.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX.dmg updated
by "Richard Koch" <koch at math.uoregon.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:29:49 -0400
Thanks to Gerben and Ross for responding to the seminar/landscape and
hyperlinks queries. As I mentioned earlier, "problem's solved" but I'll
just mention a couple of things that tripped me, for everyone else's
benefit.
a) Landscape mode: I was using \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} which always
worked for me in the past (with OzTeX) and I continued to use this with
pdftex .. instead of dropping the dvips option
a) Hyperlinks in pdf: The previewer in TeXShop displays PDF files but
doesn't follow hyperlinks. So even if the hyperlinks were there all along,
I didn't know that, and kept thinking they weren't being produced
As of now I'm real happy with my TeX installations on OSX. Way to go!!
- Hemant
--On Saturday, October 27, 2001 4:23 PM +0200 Gerben Wierda
<sherlock at rna.nl> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 27, 2001, at 02:10 , Hemant Bhargava wrote:
>
>> Yes I've tried pdflatex too, with the same results.
>
> Did you try Acrobat 5 (and maybe 4) for displaying? It sounds silly, but
> the fllowing modes of viewing PDF differ on Mac OS X:
>
> 1 - Cocoa apps on Mac OS X (TeXShop, Preview)
> 2 - Carbon apps on Mac OS X (Acrobat 5)
> 3 - Carbon apps (Acrobat 5) on Mac OS 9 or Classic apps (Acrobat 4)
> either on OS 9 or Classic under OS X
>
> The list is in decreasing display niceness and increasing functionality.
> I.e. buttons and links do not work at all in 1 and perfectly in 3. Quartz
> has various bug and incompleteness issues, hence the problems with 1. But
> thinking about it a bit more, I think landscape vs portrait is not one of
> those problems, so it is a tex issue.
>
> (Dynamic presentations, though, only display well with Acrobat 4 under
> Classic or Acrobat 5 under OS 9. To prevent the rebooting, I have
> installed Acrobat 4.05 on my system as well.)
>
> G
>
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Subject: Package for slides... looking for recommendations
From: "Fredrik Wallenberg" <fwallenberg at mac.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:18:48 -0700
I'm looking for recommendation on WHICH Slides package to use. I haven't
installed or used any of them so I'm ready to try whichever is "best".
Which are the options and which are the trade-offs? Has anyone put
together a website describing the alternatives... if not I might get one
started based on the responses to this email.
FYI I'm using TexShop/Tetex.
Fredrik
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
From: "Gary L. Gray" <gray at lpcm.esm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:51:13 -0400
On 10/28/2001 at 10:28 AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote:
> > >If I remove the bb specification and still use pdfTeX, then
>> >everything is normal again.
>>
>> At least I am not alone. :-)
>
>My experience with pdfTeX under Unix (from before TeXshop arrived,
>and subsequently) is that the viewport = .... option
>to \includegraphics (from graphicx package) only works properly
>in conjunction with the 'clip' option.
>
>You must use (something like):
>
> \includegraphics[viewport= llx lly urx ury,clip]{myimage}
>
>to get just the desired portion of the image showing.
I just tried it and it still doesn't work as before. The odd thing is
that it worked perfectly before without the clip option.
Either something has broken in the most recent teTeX or something was
broken before and at least three people (me, F. Costanzo, and Bruno
Voisin) found out how to work around it without knowing it. :-)
Any other thoughts?
Best regards,
--
Gary L. Gray
Associate Professor
Engineering Science & Mechanics
Penn State University
(814) 863-1778
http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:41:48 +0930
>I'm looking for recommendation on WHICH Slides package to use. I
>haven't installed or used any of them so I'm ready to try whichever
>is "best". Which are the options and which are the trade-offs? Has
>anyone put together a website describing the alternatives... if not
>I might get one started based on the responses to this email.
>
>FYI I'm using TexShop/Tetex.
>
>Fredrik
>
>
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Hi
You could have a look at
http://www.miwie.org/presentations/
Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:13:07 +1100 (EST)
> On 10/28/2001 at 10:28 AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote:
>
> >My experience with pdfTeX under Unix (from before TeXshop arrived,
> >and subsequently) is that the viewport = .... option
> >to \includegraphics (from graphicx package) only works properly
> >in conjunction with the 'clip' option.
> >
> >You must use (something like):
> >
> > \includegraphics[viewport= llx lly urx ury,clip]{myimage}
> >
> >to get just the desired portion of the image showing.
>
> I just tried it and it still doesn't work as before. The odd thing is
> that it worked perfectly before without the clip option.
Hmm. What is the version number on pdftex.def ?
mine is:
\ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/11/10 v0.03f graphics/color for pdftex]
By the way, can you be more specific about what "doesn't work as before"
actually means?
Does it mean: "it works -- I see the image, but with different size
or margins to what I used to get";
or do you just not get any image at all?
> Either something has broken in the most recent teTeX or something was
> broken before and at least three people (me, F. Costanzo, and Bruno
> Voisin) found out how to work around it without knowing it. :-)
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
My 1st suspicion would fall on the version of pdftex.def included
within your teTeX distribution.
The latest, at:
http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def
is:
\ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2001/09/01 v0.03h graphics/color for pdftex]
but the change-log entries don't indicate anything relevant to this
problem was done in versions v0.03g or v0.03h.
Hope this helps,
Ross
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Gary L. Gray
> Associate Professor
> Engineering Science & Mechanics
> Penn State University
> (814) 863-1778
> http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:45:50 +0930
>I'm looking for recommendation on WHICH Slides package to use. I
>haven't installed or used any of them so I'm ready to try whichever
>is "best". Which are the options and which are the trade-offs? Has
>anyone put together a website describing the alternatives... if not
>I might get one started based on the responses to this email.
>
>FYI I'm using TexShop/Tetex.
>
>Fredrik
>
>
Hi again
Try also
http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html
I have mostly used ubuild from www.utopiatype.com.au. It needs you
to input a special postscript file to run. I haven't experimented
yet with it and MacOSX.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 13:24:52 +1100 (EST)
> >I'm looking for recommendation on WHICH Slides package to use. I
> >haven't installed or used any of them so I'm ready to try whichever
> >is "best". Which are the options and which are the trade-offs? Has
> >anyone put together a website describing the alternatives... if not
> >I might get one started based on the responses to this email.
> >
> >FYI I'm using TexShop/Tetex.
> >
> >Fredrik
> >
>
> Hi
>
> You could have a look at
>
> http://www.miwie.org/presentations/
>
That's an interesting site.
But it misses a couple of the best options:
Marslides: http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~wgm/WARM/slides/
(based on TeXpower, graphicx, hyperref, etc.
solves many compatibility problems, and is very extensible)
ConTeXt: http://www.pragma-ade.com/
(very sophisticated replacement for LaTeX, based on pdfTeX;
links with MetaPost for generating graphics)
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
>
>
> Michael
> --
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> 3696
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>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] problem with new teTeX
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:52:07 +0100
This could be the problem. I upgraded latex in my teTeX distribution and
it seems the *latest* latex carries a very old pdftex.def. I used to
ship 0.03f, the latest latex contains 0.03a and the current version is
0.03h.
I'll update and put out a new dmg.
Gerben
On Sunday, October 28, 2001, at 03:13 , Ross Moore wrote:
>> On 10/28/2001 at 10:28 AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote:
>>
>>> My experience with pdfTeX under Unix (from before TeXshop arrived,
>>> and subsequently) is that the viewport = .... option
>>> to \includegraphics (from graphicx package) only works properly
>>> in conjunction with the 'clip' option.
>>>
>>> You must use (something like):
>>>
>>> \includegraphics[viewport= llx lly urx ury,clip]{myimage}
>>>
>>> to get just the desired portion of the image showing.
>>
>> I just tried it and it still doesn't work as before. The odd thing is
>> that it worked perfectly before without the clip option.
>
> Hmm. What is the version number on pdftex.def ?
>
> mine is:
> \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/11/10 v0.03f graphics/color for pdftex]
>
> By the way, can you be more specific about what "doesn't work as before"
> actually means?
>
> Does it mean: "it works -- I see the image, but with different size
> or margins to what I used to get";
> or do you just not get any image at all?
>
>
>> Either something has broken in the most recent teTeX or something was
>> broken before and at least three people (me, F. Costanzo, and Bruno
>> Voisin) found out how to work around it without knowing it. :-)
>>
>> Any other thoughts?
>>
>
> My 1st suspicion would fall on the version of pdftex.def included
> within your teTeX distribution.
>
> The latest, at:
> http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def
> is:
>
> \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2001/09/01 v0.03h graphics/color for pdftex]
>
> but the change-log entries don't indicate anything relevant to this
> problem was done in versions v0.03g or v0.03h.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ross
>
>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Gary L. Gray
>> Associate Professor
>> Engineering Science & Mechanics
>> Penn State University
>> (814) 863-1778
>> http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
From: "J.Huelsmann" <J.Huelsmann at tu-bs.de>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:04:41 +0100
Maybe it´s only the previewers fault?
Try to open the .ps with MacGSView for MacOS X (it´s free, but I
don´t have the URL at hand; search at
http://www.versiontracker.com/vt_mac_osx.shtml). When the page is
chopped off, select the "Rerender Page" menu entry.
Hope this helps.
--Jan--
>Hi -
>
>I am using the "seminar" package to create slides, and am having
>some difficulty in generating landscape slides -- I've tried this in
>both CMacTeX and TeXShop on OSX.
>
>The problem is that the pages show up in portrait mode, with the
>right part of the landscape page chopped off. This is true for all
>cases: .dvi, .ps, and .pdf.
>
>I have tried various variants and combinations of the following:
>
>\documentclass[slidesonly,landscape]{seminar}
>%\documentclass[slidesonly]{seminar}
>\renewcommand{\printlandscape}{\special{landscape}}
>%\def\printlandscape{\special{landscape}}
>
>Before this I was successfully able to generate landscape slides
>using OzTeX on OS 9 -- but in order to get landscape slides, I had
>to go into the dvi previewer, switch the view to landscape mode, and
>then run dvips. I don't find an equivalent step when using either
>CMacTeX or TeXShop.
>
>Any thoughts appreciated .. thanks in advance.
>
>- Hemant Bhargava
>
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Subject: teTeX.dmg updated
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:08:02 +0100
The only change is a more recent pdftex.def in texmf/tex/latex/graphics.
This, I hope, solves the image problem that has been reported.
If you only want pdftex.def, download the latest from
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/pdftex.def and then use the
following command to install it (run this in a shell from the directory
where you downloaded pdftex.def):
cp pdftex.def `kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXMFMAIN'`/tex/latex/graphics
Gerben
PS. I'd like to know if this indeed solves the problem.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX.dmg updated
From: "Gary L. Gray" <gray at lpcm.esm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:56:40 -0500
On 10/28/2001 at 3:08 PM +0100, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>The only change is a more recent pdftex.def in
>texmf/tex/latex/graphics. This, I hope, solves the image problem
>that has been reported.
>
>If you only want pdftex.def, download the latest from
>ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/pdftex.def and then use
>the following command to install it (run this in a shell from the
>directory where you downloaded pdftex.def):
>
> cp pdftex.def `kpsewhich --expand-var='$TEXMFMAIN'`/tex/latex/graphics
>
>Gerben
>
>PS. I'd like to know if this indeed solves the problem.
Gerben and Ross,
Woohoo! This fixed it (I reinstalled teTeX)!
Thank you for the amazingly quick fix and thanks to Ross Moore for
also pointing out the problem.
One question: I tried simply replacing the pdftex.def file with the
most recent version last night and just doing that did not entirely
fix it. Did I also need to do something else or did I do something
wrong.
All the best,
--
Gary L. Gray
Associate Professor
Engineering Science & Mechanics
Penn State University
(814) 863-1778
http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX.dmg updated
From: "Richard Koch" <koch at math.uoregon.edu>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:03:35 -0800
Gerben,
Having finally dug out (temporarily at least), I'm in the office to
update
teTeX on my web site. I just read the bug reports, and then the fix.
So I thought I'd write and say that I just read from Gray that you did
indeed
fix his problem, and I'll now retrieve the latest teTeX.dmg and put that
on
my site.
The site should be revised in about two hours. Thanks for this wonderful
and quick work.
Dick
koch at math.uoregon.edu
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