[latexrefman] the value the meaning

Vincent Belaïche vincent.belaiche at gmail.com
Sat Sep 12 21:38:16 CEST 2020

Hello both,
I did not propagate your (Karl's) change yet, as there was some
misalignment on \@ifstar node and other changes pending (cf.
punctuations after @…ref{} commands).

When Jim translated the \@ifstar node from French he improved the text
in some part, but omitted some of the information. Maybe this was
international, I cannot remember if we discussed this. That concerns
the point that the star * can be considered like some sort of optional
argument. I think that it can help the non expert readers to
understand better the différence between starred commands and starred

Your feedback on this and checking my English is most welcome.


Le jeu. 10 sept. 2020 à 23:17, Karl Berry <karl at freefriends.org> a écrit :
>        Such a command changes the value the meaning of some other command
>     or parameter
>     Shouldn't it be « the value of the meaning » ? Or either
>     the value or the meaning ?
> Yes. "or" in this case.
> However, I just deleted that paragraph. The whole question of
> environment form vs. declaration form does not seem like "syntax" to me
> like the rest of the section.
> And as far as I know \frontmatter etc. are not technical "declaration
> forms". (If \begin{frontmatter} etc. do work, we should say that. I
> didn't try it, but I don't see that form in the doc.)
> I made a few other related and unrelated changes at the same time, as
> usual. -k

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