# [latexrefman-discuss] [help-texinfo] latexrefman / ltxref.org

Gavin Smith gavinsmith0123 at domain.hid
Fri May 13 19:22:37 CEST 2016

On 13 May 2016 at 11:14, Vincent Belaïche <vincent.belaiche at domain.hid>
wrote:

>I have made a short example attached using @deftypefn, but for
environment I did not find any way to make the second occurrence of the
environment name presented as such (it seems to be some limitation of
Texinfo, no command to recall the function name). Also the indentation
is not so good when you make it multiline (with '@*').

I assume when you say "second occurrence presented as such" you mean the
boldface used to highlight the name of the environment?

This is a misuse of the @deffn-type commands. They're not supposed to be
used across multiple lines, AFAIK. How about just using the \begin line if
you want to use one of the @deffn commands?

>we don't use the @deffn and
suchlikes commands for describing commands & environment

Why do you want to do this? So that you can automatically extract
information about the commands and their parameters from the Texinfo file?
Macros seem like one possibility for this, allowing processing by other
programs that could recognize what they mean.

I found the whole discussion at
https://mail.gna.org/public/latexrefman-discuss/2016-05/msg00004.html. IMHO
it's a waste of time trying to persuade someone to use Texinfo. If they
like it fine, otherwise people gonna use what they gonna use. De gustibus
non disputandum est.

On the other hand, if there is something that you'd like to express in
Texinfo source that you can't, fire away with your suggestions!
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