I can't seem to find the rule for fontname postfix building: *8r is font encoded with 8r.enc. *8rn is ... ? *8rc ? *8rp ? If phvr8rn is Helvetica-Narrow encoded with 8r.enc, what is the name of the raw Helvetica-Narrow font (as in ptmr is the raw name of Times- Roman?). Thanks, Nicolai PS. Please answer to my address as well, I'm not on this list.