Re: Bitstream Charter in TS1 (text companion) encoding

["Berthold K.P. Horn" <bkph@ai.mit.edu>]

Oh dear, R&R you are *so* predictable. You walked right into it.

At 01:13 AM 98/11/13 +0000, Rebecca and Rowland wrote:

> ...
>Typographical purists might like this.  I'll admit I've not looked at
>http://www.YandY.com/LY1/charter.zip, but Berthold's idea of `all the files
>you need' (when I've tried it out) seems to mean just a set of
>strangely-named tfms: fd files and encoding files tend to be missing.

Maybe you *should* have looked.  See attached listing.  
It even includes the fonts and an example file using them.

>You'll also need to get some other LY1 encoded founts - at least the LY1
>encoded version of Times is needed as an error fount.  

Don't blame the `error font' on me.  It is nothing but a nuisance (sorry David :)

>In my experience, setting things up for one LY1 encoded fount is far
>too much trouble to be worth it.

Oh yes, where are my burning nettles :-)  Whip me!  
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To: "Berthold K.P. Horn" <bkph@ai.mit.edu>, "wschmi@ibm.net" <wschmi@ibm.net>
From: Rebecca and Rowland <rebecca@astrid.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Bitstream Charter in TS1 (text companion) encoding
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At 2:20 am +0000 13/11/98, Berthold K.P. Horn wrote:
>Oh dear, R&R you are *so* predictable. You walked right into it.
>
>At 01:13 AM 98/11/13 +0000, Rebecca and Rowland wrote:
>
>> ...
>>Typographical purists might like this.  I'll admit I've not looked at
>>http://www.YandY.com/LY1/charter.zip, but Berthold's idea of `all the files
>>you need' (when I've tried it out) seems to mean just a set of
>>strangely-named tfms: fd files and encoding files tend to be missing.
>
>Maybe you *should* have looked.

Maybe I should have - the thing is, I've tried downloading files that you
and Louis Vosloo have pointed me at before, and this is my experience.  Now
that fontinst 1.8 does a decent job of creating fd files, and creates TS1
encoded founts without prodding, I really can't see the point in LY1
encoding for general use; I certainly can't see any point in *me* using it,
since I've got a large set of T1 and OT1 encoded founts and adding LY1
encoding would just complicate matters.

>  See attached listing.
>It even includes the fonts and an example file using them.

Good.

>>You'll also need to get some other LY1 encoded founts - at least the LY1
>>encoded version of Times is needed as an error fount.
>
>Don't blame the `error font' on me.  It is nothing but a nuisance (sorry
>David :)

You need *an* error fount, and an LY1 encoded fount is required if you're
using LY1 encoding.  Of course it's going to be a pain, because LY1
encoding is non-standard in the wider LaTeX world.

>>In my experience, setting things up for one LY1 encoded fount is far
>>too much trouble to be worth it.
>
>Oh yes, where are my burning nettles :-)  Whip me!
>I need more fontinst!  Quick!  I am starting to feel much too sane!

Ah me...  I never said that fontinst was the answer to everything, but in
*this* case, it's fairly trivial to use and you end up with a much more
useful set of founts.  The problem is, of course, that if you've only got
one LY1 encoded fount and a large bunch of OT1 and T1 encoded founts, you
need to switch encodings to switch to a different fount.  This is a major
pain in the arse, which is why fontinst is much more sensible: a short bout
of extreme pain rather than a chronic irritation for months or years to
come.

[snip]

Rowland.