<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes, this first-word problem is a nuisance. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">If I recall (and this is a really old memory) I think there's an issue affecting footnotes in normal LaTeX because they are set in restricted horizontal mode. That can affect catcode expansion and also hyphenation, I think. There are some packages out there that rewrite the LaTeX footnote code to use the same "unboxed" ideas as in plain.tex.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dominik<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:small"><div style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline"></div>--</span><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><font size="1">Professor <a href="http://ualberta.academia.edu/DominikWujastyk" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Dominik Wujastyk</a><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">,</div><br>Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity<div style="font-size:small;display:inline">,</div><br></font><div><font size="1"><a href="http://historyandclassics.ualberta.ca/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Department of History and Classics</a><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">,</div></font></div><font size="1">University of Alberta, Canada<div style="font-size:small;display:inline">.</div><br></font></div><div><font size="1">South Asia at the U of A:</font><font size="1" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><div style="color:rgb(17,85,204);display:inline"> </div><a href="http://sas.ualberta.ca/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">sas.ualberta.ca</a><div style="display:inline"></div></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-size:small"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span><div><span><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><font size="1"><br></font></div></div></div></div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 January 2018 at 07:22, Avishai Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rabbiveesh@gmail.com" target="_blank">rabbiveesh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>To allow hyphenation of the first word of the paragraph, precede
it with \hspace{0pt}.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Avishai Goldman<br>
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<div class="m_6034797225306591839moz-cite-prefix">On 01/03/2018 11:06 PM, Zdenek Wagner
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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this is the problem of the first word of a paragraph which is
too long and TeX never hyphenates the first word. I did not
managed to persuade TeX to consider it as the second word but
maybe somebody knows TeX better than me and can help.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-01-03 17:53 GMT+01:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hanneder@staff.uni-marburg.de" target="_blank">hanneder@staff.uni-marburg.de</a><wbr>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks for
the workaround!<br>
I checked with other parts of my edition and there are still
erratic problems. In the<br>
example below the first paragraph works, but the second does
not.<br>
<br>
My installation is recent:<br>
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This is XeTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-0.99998 (TeX Live
2017/Arch Linux)<br>
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JH<span><br>
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\documentclass[11pt]{memoir}<br>
\usepackage[series={A,B},noend<wbr>,noeledsec,nofamiliar,noledgro<wbr>up]{reledmac}<br>
\Xarrangement[A]{paragraph}<br>
</span>
%\newcommand{\varc}[2]{\edtext<wbr>{}{\lemma{#1}\Afootnote{\sansk<wbr>ritfont{#2}}}}<span><br>
\newcommand{\varc}[2]{\nobreak<wbr>\hskip 0pt<br>
</span>
\edtext{}{\lemma{#1}\Afootnote<wbr>{\sanskritfont{#2}}}\hskip
0pt \relax}<span><br>
<br>
\usepackage{polyglossia,fontsp<wbr>ec,xunicode}<br>
\setdefaultlanguage{english} \setotherlanguage{sanskrit}<br>
\setmainfont{EB Garamond}<br>
\newfontfamily\sanskritfont[Sc<wbr>ript=Devanagari,Mapping=RomDev<wbr>,Scale=1.36,LetterSpace=1.35]{<wbr>Sanskrit2003}<br>
<br>
<br>
\begin{document}<br>
\begin{sanskrit}<br>
\beginnumbering<br>
\pstart kvāpi ca svātmanaivātmani<br>
nikhilajalapatibhāvamāropyocit<wbr>avividhasattva\varc{sattva}{sa<wbr>ttve}gaṇavinayananayatayā<br>
vikhyātaviṣadayaśovattvākṛśata<wbr>ravibhūtiviśeṣaḥ/<br>
\pend<br>
<br>
</span>
\pstart<br>
śrīmacchrīsvasvatantrānāśritan<wbr>irbhāgaparamaprakāśavimarśamay<wbr>apāramaiśvaryānubhāvānubhāvuka<wbr>\varc{ānubhāvānubhāvuka}{ānubh<wbr>avānubhāvaka}prathitamahitanij<wbr>asahajaparamānandādvayasattāsā<wbr>mānyaspanda
uditoditaparamaśaktisāmrājyo rājarājeśvaro jayasi
paramaśivastvamayam//\varc{tva<wbr>mayam}{tvamaya}<span><br>
\pend<br>
<br>
\endnumbering<br>
\end{sanskrit}<br>
\end{document}<br>
<br>
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2018-01-03 16:16 GMT+01:00 Ulrike Fischer <<a href="mailto:news3@nililand.de" target="_blank">news3@nililand.de</a>>:<br>
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Am Wed, 03 Jan 2018 14:35:56 +0100 schrieb<br>
<a href="mailto:hanneder@staff.uni-marburg.de" target="_blank">hanneder@staff.uni-marburg.de</a>:<br>
<br>
> When editing Sanskrit texts with very long
compounds, avoiding manual<br>
> hyphenation is extremely time<br>
> saving. XeLaTeX fortunately takes care of this,
but the mechanism is<br>
> cancelled by footnotes within<br>
> the compounded word. In the example below the
\varc{}{} causes the<br>
> error. Any idea on how to enable<br>
> hyphenation under such conditions?<br>
<br>
I see no difference with and without \varc. In both
cases I get an<br>
overful line.<br>
<br>
What texsystem are you using?<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, you get an overflow line but not so much, less
than 1pt. The problem<br>
is that there is no expandable/shrinkable space, so
with my redefinition<br>
the word is hyphenated at the first place with
smallest possible overflow<br>
(in the part after \varc). \hskip 0pt says TeX to
treat the parts before<br>
and after \varc as separate words. Text in Indic
scripts can be hyphenated<br>
after each group started with a vyanjana and ending
with a svara, so<br>
\patterns are not generated by patgen but made
agorithmically. Thus the<br>
compound word can be broken by \hskip 0pt after any
svara and both parts<br>
will certainly have a good match in \patterns.
Jürgen's definition of \varc<br>
prevents finding a match in \patterns so that the
whole word with \varc in<br>
its middle remain unhyphenated on the first line which
is overflowed more<br>
than 69pt. In addition, I forgot to mention that TeX
never hyphenates the<br>
first word of a paragraph which is another problem.
Thus if \varc appeared<br>
too far then even my solution will not help. It will
be necessary to force<br>
TeX to think that there is an invisible word with zero
width at the<br>
beginning of a paragraph followe by a fixed zero-width
space.<br>
<br>
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