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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear François, Akira, and others,<br>
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Thanks for taking the time with this. <br>
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Yes, I have now accepted that the current behavior is the expected
behavior and it is now what I get with both TL2014 and TL2015. I
am not sure why I was getting the other behavior before I
upgraded, but it is now irreproducible on my system. <br>
<br>
It looks like I will have just do the work of modifying my
documents to include local option switching. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Nathan<br>
<br>
<br>
On 8/1/15 7:30 AM, FC wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Nathan,<br>
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After compiling your example on TL 2014 and TL 2015 with the
Scheherazade font, I saw absolutely <b>no</b> difference
between them, which is what should be expected. Then I
immediately realized why you're having this problem. In your
example, you define \A as \textarabic. But since the package
option is <b>novoc</b>, it is assumed to contain legacy
ArabTeX ASCII notation, not UTF-8. The ArabXeTeX
documentation says that to input direct UTF-8 you need to use
the option <b>utf</b>. So if you use explicitly \textarab[<b>utf</b>]{خطًا}
instead your tanwin will not disappear. In the novoc mode
there is indeed a mapping rule which explicitly strips off all
vowels (even from UTF-8 input).<br>
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<div>François Charette<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-31 18:55 GMT+02:00 FC <span
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<div>Dear Nathan,<br>
I would be happy to help you debug this very strange
behaviour. I will contact you off-list. But first I
need to install TL 2015 to a separate virtual machine
(as I am still using TL 2014).<br>
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<div>BTW the utf mode does a little more than you think
(it loads a mapping from Latin to Arabic for
punctuation signs, so that e.g. U+002C becomes U+060C
in the output), but anyway you are right: what you
observe simply should not happen.<br>
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Zdenek Wagner <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>As a free font I would suggest Sheherezade
from SIL.<br>
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My knowledge of arabic is nearly zero, I only
know a little urdu so I can recognize the
characters but know nothing about grammar.<br>
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<div>Zdeněk Wagner<br>
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GMT+02:00 Ulrike Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span>Am
Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:19:15 +0900
schrieb Nathan Camillo Sidoli:<br>
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> Here is a minimal example:<br>
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</span>Not really minimal. I don't know
arabic and so even don't know where<br>
to look at and decide if something is
missing.<br>
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Try to make an example that use only one
or two input chars. If<br>
possible enter as ascii with their
unicode notation: ^^^^062e<br>
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And if possible use a free font and tell
where to get it.<br>
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