<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 7 mai 2015 à 11:57, Julian Bradfield <<a href="mailto:jcb+xetex@jcbradfield.org" class="">jcb+xetex@jcbradfield.org</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">On 2015-05-07, Apostolos Syropoulos <<a href="mailto:asyropoulos@yahoo.com" class="">asyropoulos@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Well I do not know what Dendrinos says I just happen to know what people do in<br class="">typography and in everyday practice. <br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Which is not what the Unicode uppercase mapping is for. The uppercase<br class="">mapping in the data file gives a default mapping, which is appropriate<br class="">in the absence of any language specific behaviour (although some<br class="">special cases of Greek are built in, particularly the behaviour of<br class="">iota subscript and adscript).<br class="">Case-conversion algorithms may use additional data appropriate to the<br class="">language and environment.<br class=""><br class="">Many languages have conventions that diacritics may be omitted when<br class="">writing in all capitals. For example, in French, it is quite common<br class="">to omit accents, or to omit accents unless confusion would occur.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>As common as it may be, it’s still considered incorrect by many people including me, <a href="http://www.academie-francaise.fr/la-langue-francaise/questions-de-langue#5_strong-em-accentuation-des-majuscules-em-strong" class="">l’Académie française</a> and l’Imprimerie nationale.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The only mark that remains when making all capitals is the dieredis<br class="">(dialytika). All other vanish. This is common knowledge for people who<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">This is a different matter again. Conventions for all-capital writing<br class="">may well be different from conventions for casing in mixed-case text,<br class="">and in many languages diacritics are freely omitted in all-capital<br class="">text -- Unicode specifically observes that accents are often omitted<br class="">from Modern Greek all-capital text. This is something that needs to be<br class="">handled by the functions that do the conversion; it's not something to<br class="">be done by the basic uppercase mapping.<br class=""><br class="">As it happens, the breathings and accents of polytonic Greek were<br class="">introduced into the script *before* it developed an upper/lower-case<br class="">distinction.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--------------------------------------------------<br class="">Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.:<br class=""> <a href="http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex" class="">http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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