<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv6461258451"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_4" style=""><span class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_14" style="">Hi all,</span></div><div class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_16" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br style="" clear="none"><span class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_14" style=""></span></div><div class="yiv6461258451"
 id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_20" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_14" style="">I can confirm this issue with</span></div><div class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_25" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_14" style=""><br id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_32" clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_28" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
 sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_14" style=""> XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.3 (TeX Live 2013)<br><br>on linux and both Evince and Acroread as PDF viewers. There definitely is a dot. I guess the issue is solved in TeXLive 2014.<br><br>By the way, if you add a an extra circle to be plotted, that extra circle does not have dot in it. The dot is not on (0,0). If you change the color of the node (\draw[red]), the dot remains black while the circle becomes red.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Wilfred<br><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv6461258451yqt0408051604" id="yiv6461258451yqt50408"><div class="yiv6461258451yahoo_quoted" id="yiv6461258451yui_3_16_0_5_1402883592728_7" style="display: block;"> <div class="yiv6461258451"
 style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv6461258451" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv6461258451" dir="ltr" style=""> <font class="yiv6461258451" style="" size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:06 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs@wideopenwest.com> wrote:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"> </font> </div> <blockquote class="yiv6461258451" style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;">  <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"> <div class="yiv6461258451" style=""><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">On Jun 15, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Marcin Woliński <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6461258451" style=""
 ymailto="mailto:wolinski@mimuw.edu.pl" target="_blank" href="mailto:wolinski@mimuw.edu.pl">wolinski@mimuw.edu.pl</a>> wrote:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> Dear XeTeX Gurus,<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> Please shed some light on the following crazy
 example (there is<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> definitely a bug here but I have no idea which level is to blame).  This<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> is a minimal XeLaTeX example:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \documentclass{article}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \usepackage{fontspec}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \usepackage{tikz}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \def\fb{\addfontfeature{FakeBold=1}}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \setmainfont{Latin Modern Roman}<br class="yiv6461258451"
 style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \begin{document}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \begin{tikzpicture}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \draw (-1,-1) rectangle (3,3);<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \draw (0,0) circle (.2);<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  % try commenting out the following line:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \node at (1,2) {\fb test1};<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  % try commenting out the following line:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \node at (1,1)  {test2};<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \end{tikzpicture}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451"
 style="" clear="none">> \vspace{2cm}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \newsavebox{\testbox}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \sbox{\testbox}{\fb test3}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \begin{tikzpicture}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> 
 \draw (-1,-1) rectangle (3,3);<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \draw (0,0) circle (.2);<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  % try commenting out the following line:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \node at (1,2) {\usebox{\testbox}};<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  % try commenting out the following line:<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">>  \node at (1,1)  {test2};<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \end{tikzpicture}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> \end{document}<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br
 class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> The rectangle and the circle are present only to show the coordinates.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> In
 particular, the circle shows where the origin of the coordinate<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> system is located.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> Now we have two nodes, text in one of them has FakeBold applied.  Their<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> position is not really important.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> In the PDF I get from running XeLaTeX on this file a black dot shows up<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> near the center of the circle (I’ve tried this with XeTeX from Ubuntu<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> 12.04 (TeXlive 2009 with some updates?) and 14.04 (TeXlive 2013)).<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> The dot disappears when FakeBold is not
 used or if any of the two nodes<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> is removed (also the second one, not containing
 bold!).  The amount of<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> FakeBold seems not to be important, provided it is non-zero.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> In the second tikzpicture the FakeBold text is typeset outside of the<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> picture, put in a box, and copied into the node.  Guess what: the black<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> dot shows up again.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> Any insight into this problem would be really appreciated.  Obviously, I<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> have spotted this in a real life situation.  I handle the problem by<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> changing coordinates within the
 pictures in such a way that the origin<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> falls off the page but that is a bit silly thing to
 do.<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> <br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> With best<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">> Marcin Woliński<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">Howdy,<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">I'm using TeX Live 2014 (from the pretest) on a Mac and don't see that black dot (unless it's awfully small). Could it be something that has to do with your PDF Viewer?<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">Good Luck,<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none"><br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">Herb Schulz<br class="yiv6461258451" style="" clear="none">(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)<div class="yiv6461258451" id="yiv6461258451yqtfd56681" style=""><br
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