<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Nathan, Vafa,<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>TeX, LaTeX, Xe(La)TeX, Lua(La)Tex, etc come with a very steep learning curve.</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>It was one of the reasons I stopped using LaTeX some 20 years ago. </div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Also, back then the packages were not stable and conflicted with each other so if </div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>really needed something you had better do it yourself.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>THAT was THEN. Today, a lot has changed and become very stable and usable.</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Evenmore so, with the support of unicode. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The problem is that there is NO MODERN Reference for LaTeX, Xe(La)TeX or Lua(La)TeX</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>that is usable for finding packages for the simple user of TeX et.al. Even the all so famous</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>LaTeX Companion is helplessly outdated. Believe, me! I had bought the latest available version of the</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Book. If I had not started delving into TeXLive via the show info panel of the TeXLive utility,</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I would have given up on TeX, again.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>You have to avoid older packages as much as possible. Look for newer packages. </div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Look carefully, at Koma Scripts and Memoir, you can probably get more functionality by</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>adapting from them. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For Graphics, avoid ps-tricks, use some newer. TikZ and pgf are quite able and simple enough to learn</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>and more packages are coming out that use them.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> Vafa, have you tried asking the authors of the packages that you support(work around their short commings)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>to support, bidi or RTL. They are most likely not aware of the problems, because the designed their package</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>only of LTR. Maybe you, can gather a group around you that will modify and update the other packages.</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>KEEP UP THE SUPERB WORK. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Sorry, I this is somewhat OT, to others.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>regards</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Keith.</div><div><br><div><div>Am 23.09.2011 um 07:54 schrieb Nathan Sidoli:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Yes, of course you are right. However, many of the older LaTeX
packages are not being developed very actively any more (or not at
all in some cases) so it makes it difficult to decide what to use
when one need the functionality of some of the older packages but
also wants to work with unicode, etc.<br>
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Anyway, you have certainly done a great deal to make bidi very
functional and I am very grateful for that.<br>
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For how long have bidi and ednotes been incompatible?
François Charette , who maintains arabxetex and works on
polyglossia, wrote an example file showing how to use
arabxetex + bidi with ednotes to produce critical
editions, so I assumed there would be some effort to keep
the packages compatible. <br>
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Well, certainly bidi can not support every single package on
CTAN, one would need unlimited resources to be able to do
that. bidi itself is now too big, it supports around 100
packages. Unfortunately the concept is misunderstood, it is
not the duty of bidi package to add support for other
packages but other packages themselves have to add bidi
support. bidi should only support standard LaTeX and
considering this, I have done heaps more than I ought to do.
So it makes sense if you contact the author of ednotes
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