<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hello Everyone<br> </div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">in Latex the verse are written in this format </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">\begin{verse}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> This is line one of verse ........\\</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">
</span> Line two of the verse .............\\ Chap1.1</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> This is line one of verse ........\\</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Line two of the verse .............\\ Chap1.2</div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">\end {verse}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I was wondering how can I
put a automatic counter at the end of each verse, linked to the chapter so that as I can add verses to a particular chapter it would increase it by one. Something like the one shown above. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Is it something that can be done or far fetched thing? I tried \begin{enumerate} ... \end{enumerate} that did not work. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I would appreciate your help. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-Anant</div><div><br></div></span> </div><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica,
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Send XeTeX mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span> <a target="_blank" href="http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex">http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex</a></span><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:xetex-request@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex-request@tug.org">xetex-request@tug.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:xetex-owner@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex-owner@tug.org">xetex-owner@tug.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of XeTeX digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Meho R.)<br> 2. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Petr Tomasek)<br>
3. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Vafa Khalighi)<br> 4. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Rembrandt Wolpert)<br> 5. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Meho R.)<br> 6. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Jonathan Kew)<br> 7. Re: PDF Creator: "bidi"? (Meho R.)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:03:49 -0800 (PST)<br>From: "Meho R." <<a ymailto="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com" href="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com">meho_r@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: XeTeX <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Subject: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:560113.61647.qm@web110411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" href="mailto:560113.61647.qm@web110411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">560113.61647.qm@web110411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Hi,<br><br>This is question for Vafa: can you explain
what is the reason that in .pdf file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br><br><br><br> <br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br><span>URL: <<a target="_blank" href="http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/attachments/20100311/5969fcab/attachment-0001.html">http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/attachments/20100311/5969fcab/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:13:05 +0100<br>From: Petr Tomasek <<a ymailto="mailto:tomasek@etf.cuni.cz" href="mailto:tomasek@etf.cuni.cz">tomasek@etf.cuni.cz</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a
ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20100311141305.GA21807@ebed.etf.cuni.cz" href="mailto:20100311141305.GA21807@ebed.etf.cuni.cz">20100311141305.GA21807@ebed.etf.cuni.cz</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 03:03:49AM -0800, Meho R. wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>> <br><br>Isn't it the "bidi-package"?<br><br>-- <br><span>Petr Tomasek <<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.etf.cuni.cz/~tomasek">http://www.etf.cuni.cz/~tomasek</a>></span><br>Jabber: <a ymailto="mailto:butrus@jabbim.cz" href="mailto:butrus@jabbim.cz">butrus@jabbim.cz</a><br>SIP: <a ymailto="mailto:butrus@ekiga.net" href="mailto:butrus@ekiga.net">butrus@ekiga.net</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:33:03 +1100<br>From: Vafa Khalighi <<a ymailto="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de" href="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de">vafa@users.berlios.de</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:b5215f01003110333i57c26ddep8dc530f3c125ee22@mail.gmail.com"
href="mailto:b5215f01003110333i57c26ddep8dc530f3c125ee22@mail.gmail.com">b5215f01003110333i57c26ddep8dc530f3c125ee22@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>><br>> This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf<br>> file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary<br>> language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand<br>> that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very<br>> unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>><br>><br>I have done this because someone in the past requested it. Why is this<br>unfair?<br><br>-- <br>Best wishes,<br>Vafa Khalighi<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br><span>URL: <<a target="_blank"
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creation of the pdf-file from<br>this minimal text, but claims it:<br><br>\documentclass{article}<br>\usepackage{bidi,xltxtra}<br>\setmainfont{STFangsong}<br>\begin{document}<br>???<br>\end{document}<br><br>Rembrandt<br><br><br>On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 05:33, Vafa Khalighi <<a ymailto="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de" href="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de">vafa@users.berlios.de</a>> wrote:<br><br>><br>><br>>> This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf<br>>> file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary<br>>> language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand<br>>> that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very<br>>> unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>>><br>>><br>> I have done this because someone in the past requested it. Why is this<br>> unfair?<br>><br>>
--<br>> Best wishes,<br>> Vafa Khalighi<br>><br>><br>><br>> --------------------------------------------------<br>> Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.:<br>> <a href="http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex" target="_blank">http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex</a><br>><br>><br><br><br>-- <br>???????????<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br><span>URL: <<a target="_blank" href="http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/attachments/20100311/f99c2328/attachment-0001.html">http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/attachments/20100311/f99c2328/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:48:48 -0800 (PST)<br>From: "Meho R." <<a ymailto="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com" href="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com">meho_r@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a
ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:61250.85409.qm@web110413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" href="mailto:61250.85409.qm@web110413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">61250.85409.qm@web110413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>As noted, because bidi isn't the creator of the PDF file and still claims it is. "Created by Xe(La)TeX with bidi package" (something like "Created by LaTeX with hyperref package") would be a little bit more acceptable, don't you think?<br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br>From: Vafa Khalighi <<a ymailto="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de" href="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de">vafa@users.berlios.de</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Sent: Thu, March 11,
2010 12:33:03 PM<br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br><br><br><br><br><br>>This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>><br>><br>I have done this because someone in the past requested it. Why is this unfair? <br><br>-- <br>Best wishes,<br>Vafa Khalighi<br><br><br><br> <br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br><span>URL: <<a target="_blank"
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the PDF file and still claims it is. "Created by Xe(La)TeX with bidi package" (something like "Created by LaTeX with hyperref package") would be a little bit more acceptable, don't you think?<br><br>Personally, I think packages should not be doing this at all (though I believe hyperref has a long history of it). What if you use both hyperref *and* bidi -- who wins? What if every package author decides to start rewriting the Creator string?<br><br>The only time a package should override the default metadata is when the user explicitly specifies it, IMO.<br><br>JK<br><br>> From: Vafa Khalighi <<a ymailto="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de" href="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de">vafa@users.berlios.de</a>><br>> To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>> Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:33:03 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>>
<br>> This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>> <br>> I have done this because someone in the past requested it. Why is this unfair? <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Best wishes,<br>> Vafa Khalighi<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:35:06 -0800 (PST)<br>From: "Meho R." <<a ymailto="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com" href="mailto:meho_r@yahoo.com">meho_r@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>Message-ID:
<<a ymailto="mailto:681322.20302.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" href="mailto:681322.20302.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">681322.20302.qm@web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>I totally agree. I've never liked seeing hyperref entry in pdf details/properties, but at least it doesn't negate the real creator of document. For me, bidi is a very important package and its author and maintainer deserve all praise, but I really think it shouldn't be in pdf details/properties. Jonathan has got the point: what about other packages used in a document, why they don't get their piece of credits?<br><br><br><br>________________________________<br>From: Jonathan Kew <<a ymailto="mailto:jfkthame@googlemail.com" href="mailto:jfkthame@googlemail.com">jfkthame@googlemail.com</a>><br>To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org"
href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 7:09:40 PM<br>Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br><br>On 11 Mar 2010, at 17:48, Meho R. wrote:<br><br>> As noted, because bidi isn't the creator of the PDF file and still claims it is. "Created by Xe(La)TeX with bidi package" (something like "Created by LaTeX with hyperref package") would be a little bit more acceptable, don't you think?<br><br>Personally, I think packages should not be doing this at all (though I believe hyperref has a long history of it). What if you use both hyperref *and* bidi -- who wins? What if every package author decides to start rewriting the Creator string?<br><br>The only time a package should override the default metadata is when the user explicitly specifies it, IMO.<br><br>JK<br><br>> From: Vafa Khalighi <<a ymailto="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de" href="mailto:vafa@users.berlios.de">vafa@users.berlios.de</a>><br>> To:
Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms <<a ymailto="mailto:xetex@tug.org" href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">xetex@tug.org</a>><br>> Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:33:03 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [XeTeX] PDF Creator: "bidi"?<br>> <br>> This is question for Vafa: can you explain what is the reason that in .pdf file, created using xelatex+polyglossia with use of arabic as secondary language (the main is latin), bidi is credited as "creator"? I do understand that bidi is used for arabic, but, with due respect, I think it's very unfair to declare it as creator application instead of xe(la)tex.<br>> <br>> I have done this because someone in the past requested it. Why is this unfair? <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Best wishes,<br>> Vafa Khalighi<br><br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.:<br> <a href="http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex"
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