Thanks, Jonathan. I'll take a look at what you suggest.<br>Nicolas<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Kew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jfkthame@googlemail.com">jfkthame@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 11 Sep 2009, at 17:17, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
I went to my publisher's and the problem was in some of the technical drawings (created in Illustrator, and included as PDFs in the LaTeX doc), some of whose fonts were not embedded.<br>
I had two possible solutions: to re-embed all fonts in the drawings, or to convert everything to curves. I took the latter.<br>
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The curious thing is that these problems could only be spotted (by me, at my home-office) with a plugin as Enfocus. When I try to print or view the PDFs, I have no problems.<br>
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You can view or print them because you have the relevant fonts on your system, presumably. (Or else Acrobat Reader silently performs a substitution, and the result looked OK so you didn't notice it.)<br>
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If you view the PDF with Acrobat [Reader], you should be able to look at the list of fonts used (somewhere in a properties dialog, I forget the exact details) and see whether it says they're embedded or not.<br>
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Similarly, the TeXworks PDF viewer has a Fonts panel (available from the Window / Show submenu) that should give the same information.<br>
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I don't know whether one of these would actually have worked in your case, to alert you to the problem earlier, but in theory at least....!<br><font color="#888888">
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Thanks for all your useful comments.<br>
Cheers,<br>
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Nicolas<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Nicolas Vaughan <<a href="mailto:nivaca@gmail.com" target="_blank">nivaca@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Thanks, Jonathan.<br>
I agree that they're messing things up. I'm gonna see what they have in mind.<br>
Best wishes,<br>
Nicolas<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Jonathan Kew <<a href="mailto:jfkthame@googlemail.com" target="_blank">jfkthame@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
On 11 Sep 2009, at 14:28, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:<br>
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What do you think about converting all text to outlines? That'll solve the problem, but I don't know if it has "collateral damages...<br>
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I think you shouldn't be doing any of this.<br>
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If something about the actual text needs to be changed, the publisher should tell you what, so you can change it and regenerate the PDF. (If you convert it to outlines, they can't edit it anyway.)<br>
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And if they want to add something to the pages without actually touching your text (e.g., their logo, ISBN, etc), then they should be "placing" the PDF page (or an EPS copy) intact, complete with its embedded fonts, not trying to open it in Illustrator for editing.<br>
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In either case, it sounds like they're currently going about things in completely the wrong way.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Nicolas<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicolas Vaughan <<a href="mailto:nivaca@gmail.com" target="_blank">nivaca@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Dear all,<br>
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Thanks for your advices. I will be meeting today with my publisher again, and I'm carrying with me a host of PDFs with your suggestions.<br>
In the end, I did as William suggested: export all the pages into EPS and placed them in a INDD file.... let's wait to see what they say now.<br>
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Best wishes!<br>
Nicolas<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:59 AM, William Adams <<a href="mailto:will.adams@frycomm.com" target="_blank">will.adams@frycomm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Nicolas Vaughan wrote:<br>
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The problem persists, though. I think my publisher is trying to open the PDF in Adobe Illustrator, in order to do something with the text block (don't know why!). But when he tries to do that, AI reports that KP-etc. fonts are not available. And they aren't available to the OS (and to AI) since they are LaTeX fonts only.<br>
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Any ideas?<br>
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If they want to do something other than edit text, they can open your .pdf in Adobe Acrobat Professional, save out the pages which they wish to change as .eps files, then place (not open) those .eps files in Adobe Illustrator (or better still Adobe InDesign) and add whatever additional elements need to be added (they'll need to set up the page properly to match trim, bleed &c.) --- of course if the text needs to be edited, then they'll need for you to do that as previous respondents have noted.<br>
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Or they could purchase Enfocus PitStop and use it for any such .pdf editing.<br>
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Adobe Illustrator is _not_ a general purpose .pdf editor and has to translate all elements of a .pdf into its own internal format which can result in marked changes in appearance or text formatting and then creates the need to proof the edited file character for character, line for line, graphic for graphic.<br>
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Fry Communications<br>
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