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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't use LaTeX but have not had any problem with
double-columned footnotes using edmac (just \input edmac near the top of the
file).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In one job here is what I had for these footnotes,
which were invoked with \edn{TEXT OF FOOTNOTE}. (NB this was years ago -
the code could be spruced up a lot, but it does work, as you will see if you
consult the prelims to volume I of the Princeton edition of Coleridge's
Poems.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\def\ednotefmt#1#2#3{%<BR>
\widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0<BR> \let\par=\endgraf<BR>
\hsize=11.5pc<BR> \tolerance=5000<BR>
\ednotetext<BR> \rightskip=0pt<BR>
\leftskip=\rightskip<BR> \parindent=8.5pt<BR>
\parfillskip=0pt plus 1fil<BR> \vrule height 7.5pt depth 1.5pt width
0pt<BR> #3\vrule height 0pt depth 1.5pt width 0pt<BR>
\goodbreak}<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In that job, as you see, widows and orphans were
both allowed, but you can set the penalties to 10000 if you disallow them (I'd
recommend allowing orphans though). You would have to set the \hsize and
\parindent to whatever it is you require. And 7.5pt and 1.5pt might have
to be tweaked if you are getting uneven interlinear space in the font you happen
to be using for footnotes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also needed:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>\foottwocol{A}<BR>\let\Afootfmt=\ednotefmt<BR>\let\ed=\Afootnote<BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>\let\Afootnoterule=\relax<BR>\skip\Afootins=9pt plus 12pt
minus 3pt<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And, for keying in the footnote material
itself:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\def\edn#1{\global \advance \ednotenumber by
1%<BR>{\sup\the\ednotenumber}%<BR>\text{}\ed{{\ednotetext</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\the \ednotenumber}\kern 0.5em
#1}/}<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can't remember why, but I think I was getting
some slight riding up of the first column. Anyway it was fixed
by:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\def\balancerule{\vrule height8.5pt depth0pt
width0pt}% MANUAL STRUT TO<BR>% FORCE DOWN FIRST COLUMN OF EDITORIAL
NOTES<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You might not need that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\ednotetext was just my definition of
footnote-sized text: you would want to substitute whatever it is you use
for that size.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think I also needed </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\def\notefontsetup{\ednotetext}</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Instead of \ednotetext use whatever you use to
call the footnote-sized text.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hope this helps a bit - but if you are dead set on
pre-written LaTeX packages the above may not work for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is surely no way you are getting a
line-break after the verse numbers unless you've introduced a space with
some bit of coding. A simple font call such as {\bold 1}~SOME TEXT
will always keep the bold numeral attached to the following text. You will
get potential line-breaks if you have a space before ~ (and even a
line-break doesn't occur I think you will get a double-sized space at this point
in the line). Or, of course, if somewhere you or a package has redefined ~
itself (hope not!).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As to the two-line numeral at the start, the
size is usually a matter of trial and error, since you want a numeral
which (to the eye) will precisely equal the visual height of two lines of
adjacent text, inclusive of the \baselineskip between them but *not* including
any notional height above the size of a capital letter on the first line.
You might end up specifying that it has to be in a peculiar point size such as
20.375 or whatever, to get it just right. Then define that font as
\dropcapfont:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\font \dropcapfont = "Times New Roman Bold" at
20.375pt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Once that is done, it's fairly simple to code (the
following assumes that you want 9pt after the dropcap number, otherwise just
change it to whatever looks nice):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\def\dropnum#1{\leaveavmode</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> \noindent
\setbox0=\hbox{\dropcapfont #1}\copy0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> \kern 9pt
\hangindent \wd0 \advance \hangindent by 9pt \hangafter -2
\ignorespaces}</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You would then just give at the start of each Bible
chapter:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>\dropnum{1} In the beginning.......</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hope this gives you some ideas at
least!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tthackery@gmail.com href="mailto:tthackery@gmail.com">Thomas
Thackery</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=xetex@tug.org
href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other
platforms</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [XeTeX] Typesetting a
Bible</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>At risk of open criticism, I am just going to post my questions
since I'm not getting anywhere on a personal project. I'm presuming that
(Xe)LaTeX is a good tool for this. </DIV>
<DIV>I want to typeset single column Bible text with numbered footnotes in two
columns. I would first like to try this with Latin characters (e.g. in
German or English) before attempting something more complex. </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>To save time, quite frankly, here is an example of the kind of layout I
am after:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.hendrickson.com/pdf/chapters/9781598562859-ch01.pdf">http://www.hendrickson.com/pdf/chapters/9781598562859-ch01.pdf</A></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Main
Text</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><I>Chapter numbering</I>: I've looked at Dirk-Jan Dekker's (<A
href="http://www.djdekker.net/ledmac/">http://www.djdekker.net/ledmac/</A>)
site for help on versification, but I don't know how I
would produce the chapter numbers as in the example above. </DIV>
<DIV><I>Verse numbering</I>: I can get versification, but am unsure
if Dirk-Jan Dekker's method is the best for the job. On this note,
I tried inserting ~ for a non-breaking space after a verse number and the text
beginning, but still get linebreaks after the verse number. </DIV>
<DIV><I>Chapter & verse ranges in a header </I>(I'll use fancyhdr I
presume though this will tricky with chapt & verse I would imagine)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><B>Footnotes</B></DIV>
<DIV>I've been manipulating ledmac, and can I can get critical notes
\edtext{}\Afootnotes{} to appear in columns, but what I'd really like is to
have the regular footnotes in two columns. In the example above, the footnote
numbering begins with 1 at a page break.
Section 22.6 shows how to define for critical notes, but I don't see how to define for regular \footnote that would appear in two columns. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If anyone has examples of something close to this I would love to see
it. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thomas</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>PS I do have a very klugey .tex file (attached) that reflects some of
what I'm trying out. </DIV>
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<P></P>At risk of open criticism, I am just going to post my questions
since <BR>I'm not getting anywhere on a personal project. I'm
presuming that <BR>(Xe)LaTeX is a good tool for this.<BR>I want to
typeset single column Bible text with numbered footnotes in <BR>two
columns. I would first like to try this with Latin characters
<BR>(e.g. in German or English) before attempting something more
complex.<BR><BR>To save time, quite frankly, here is an example of the kind of
layout <BR>I am
after:<BR>http://www.hendrickson.com/pdf/chapters/9781598562859-ch01.pdf<BR><BR><BR>Main
Text<BR>Chapter numbering: I've looked at Dirk-Jan Dekker's
(http://www.djdekker.net/ledmac/ <BR>) site for help on versification, but I
don't know how I would produce <BR>the chapter numbers as in the example
above.<BR>Verse numbering: I can get versification, but am unsure if
Dirk-Jan <BR>Dekker's method is the best for the job. On
this note, I tried <BR>inserting ~ for a non-breaking space after a
verse number and the text <BR>beginning, but still get linebreaks after
the verse number.<BR>Chapter & verse ranges in a header (I'll use fancyhdr
I presume though <BR>this will tricky with chapt & verse I would
imagine)<BR><BR>Footnotes<BR>I've been manipulating ledmac, and can I can get
critical notes <BR>\edtext{}\Afootnotes{} to appear in columns, but what
I'd really like <BR>is to have the regular footnotes in two columns. In
the example above, <BR>the footnote numbering begins with 1 at a page
break. Section 22.6 <BR>shows how to define for critical notes,
but I don't see how to define <BR>for regular \footnote that would
appear in two columns.<BR><BR>If anyone has examples of something close to
this I would love to see <BR>it.<BR><BR>Thomas<BR><BR>PS I do have a
very klugey .tex file (attached) that reflects some of <BR>what I'm
trying out.<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>