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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh dear, it's not really a matter of looking
beautiful.... I like the old Greek ligatures (hint to Yannis - PLEASE
return my font book!) but I wouldn't get away with using them, even in a
sixteenth-century translation of the Aeneid that I'm supposed to be editing at
some point (and at that period the ligatures would have been expected
by readers of printed books).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I didn't go into matters medieval (when I'm *not*
typesetting the medieval latin dictionary I avoid such topics), where
there's more to be said on the subject, but if you look at modern scholarly
editions of Latin author you will not (I fervently hope) find the ligatures in
use beyond the restricted area of reporting precise forms in the source
documents when a reading is in doubt.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Incidentally, my modern edition of the Vulgate
does not use the ligatures, though my Polyglot Bible, which fits eight languages
onto facing pages, does, as expected - it's an 1869 printing but it uses
standing type that was set up decades earlier.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=nivaca@gmail.com href="mailto:nivaca@gmail.com">Nicolas Vaughan</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=xetex@tug.org
href="mailto:xetex@tug.org">Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other
platforms</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [XeTeX] Ligatures
question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I am typesetting a bilingual Latin-Spanish work. For the Latin,
I am using old-style ligatures ("st", "ct", etc.) and dypthong ligatures. I
believe they look beautiful---even in a modern edition.<BR>I agree with Fr.
Michael: of course not all combinations of "ae", "oe", etc., are
dypthongs.<BR><BR>Nicolas<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Fr. Michael Gilmary
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href="mailto:FrMichaelGilmary@maronitemonks.org">FrMichaelGilmary@maronitemonks.org</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=im>Nicolas Vaughan wrote:<BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I
need them not for French, but for Latin.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>Hi
Nicholas!<BR><BR>Depending on what texts your using, I do have an
"exceptions" list for the Vulgate Bible, i.e., a list of words/names which
have 'ae' or 'oe' which don't take the digraph/ligature (for example, the
names Michael, Israel, etc., or the words aer, aes, etc.).<BR><BR><BR>--
<BR>United in adoration of Jesus, <BR><BR><BR>fr. michael gilmary,
mma<BR><BR>Most Holy Trinity Monastery<BR>67 Dugway Road<BR>Petersham, MA
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