[XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Khaled Hosny khaledhosny at eglug.org
Tue Sep 28 05:53:27 CEST 2010


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:44:08AM -0700, Michiel Kamermans wrote:
> On 9/27/2010 11:23 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> > Microsoft's recommendations on the UI of programs are only
> >recommendations. If the task requires it, two windows are fine.
> >This is what you would have if you previewed in Acrobat Reader
> >anyway -- two apps but also two windows.
> 
> Yes, they are, and moving away from that recommendation for anything
> other than "things CANNOT be done unless we use two windows" is not
> understanding the user experience that windows users expect =)
> 
> Seeing the preview in acrobat viewer is seeing two different
> applications, with one window per application. This is fine, because
> that's how applications should behave in the world of a windows
> user. You shouldn't use *nix UI principles in windows in the same
> way that you don't use windows UI principles in MacOS, etc.
> 
> >It's been a while, but my memory is that many of Adobe's apps,
> >such as PhotoShop, have multiple windows, especially if you detach
> >the palettes. If you recommend Unicode editors in xlshort, I think
> >TeXWorks should be included.
> 
> These are still inside the master application window. You can move
> these around, but they don't go "outside" the application frame,
> such as for programs that have been complied for multiple operating
> systems without using OS specific look-and-feel management, such as
> Gimp or Inkscape.
> 
> TeXWork should be recommended. But I wouldn't recommend it as main
> TeX editor on windows just yet, because it refuses to behave like
> every other application I use on it. That makes it a "good
> alternative if the following editors aren't good enough for you
> :...." and then a list of real "for windows" programs. I'll happily
> endorse it as primary editor on MacOS, though, because there the
> styling matches the standard application experience.

You know, because Windows has the most consistent user interface an OS
ever had.

(From some one who is yet to see two "native" Windows applications that
behave the same)

-- 
 Khaled Hosny
 Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
 Free font developer


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