[texworks] Beginners' needs (was: Lua scripting)
jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr
Fri Jun 19 08:47:59 CEST 2009
Le 19 juin 09 à 05:51, David J. Perry a écrit :
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard" <mpg at elzevir.fr
>> So, isn't it a problem that the user must select the typesetting
>> mode before he
>> can actually use TeXworks?
> Yes, this is a problem.
>> 1. Implement an 'auto' mode that tries to guess.
> Good idea.
>> 2. Make pdflatex the default. I'm afraid many won't agree, but here
>> is the
>> argument: people who come to TeX without knowing the about the
>> various engine
>> and formats generally want to use LaTeX. People who come to TeX for
>> generally *know* what XeTeX is and why they want it, and I guess
>> the same is
>> true for context users.
> I'm not sure why they would want LaTeX if they don't know about it.
> In addition, I think there are two other important issues here.
> 1. Fonts. I don't think people will be happy to find out that they
> have only a very few fonts to choose from (the computer modern
> fonts) or that they have to jump through a bunch of hoops to add
> more fonts, and even then can't use all the fonts they are
> accustomed to on their system. (Somebody--maybe Robert Bringhurst--
> remarked that it's better to have a few high quality fonts and learn
> how to use them to best effect; and I agree. But users are
> accustomed to having lots and lots of fonts these days.)
> 2. Language issues. All OS versions since Win98 and Mac OS X (2001)
> turn out Unicode text. (I don't know about Linux.) Users are
> accustomed to typing in their own language and/or switching easily
> among languages. I've never tried it, but I think that LaTeX will
> not process Unicode well. Using LaTeX, people will have to find and
> install older packages for Cyrillic, Hebrew, whatever, and the
> keyboard probably won't work as expected. Surely it's pointless to
> ask beginners who don't use a western European language to give up
> the convenience of Unicode that they are accustomed to if they have
> a relatively new machine.
> Both of these items would suggest XeTeX as the default. If we make
> LaTeX the default, then we have to provide guidance about installing
> fonts and using languages other than English, which is another
> burden for TeXworks. With XeTeX, a very small amount of guidance
> about fontspec will suffice for beginners.
David, you are right.
If new documents are created based on properly designed templates, the
font, language and engine issues both turn to secondary problems.
Newcomers should be guided when creating a new document based on the
They should be given the opportunity to choose their document format
in a list of document samples,
each of them properly designed.
For example, a math article with pdflatex, a letter or a home journal
A math presentation with pdflatex, a text presentation with xelatex...
Not to speak about luatex;-)
Those sample documents should be part of TeXLive.
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