<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I sincerely (and publicly) apolodgidze for the term "vaporware", it was impolite and stupid of me.<div><br></div><div>In your documentation (of ledpar) you say that it suffices to write</div><div><br></div><div>\begin{Leftside}</div><div>...</div><div>\end{Leftside}</div><div><br></div><div>\begin{Rightside}</div><div>...</div><div>\end{Rightside}</div><div>\Columns</div><div><br></div><div>to obtain two columns. This is *not* the case, since I obtain only one column, and this time I'm sure that there is no error in the environment and macro names.</div><div><br></div><div>I obtained two columns by adding the \stanza command, and this one is not mentioned in the ledpar documentation but in the one of ledmac. And this command also produces a bunch of error messages (and this is the reason why I didn't detected the error in the footnote macro name).</div><div><br></div><div>Mea culpa for the error in the footnote macro name. But you must admit that something is missing in the ledpar documentation, however carefully I read it. </div><div><br></div><div>Sorry again for offending you, it wasn't my intention.</div><div><br><div><div>Le 9 avr. 09 à 15:11, peter wilson a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Yannis Haralambous wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I need to typeset parallel texts with critical apparatus. The package parallel works fine for parallel texts but it processes footnotes at then end of each paragraph, and that will often be the wrong page. The package ledpar is advertizing exactly this: parallel texts with critical apparati and footnotes.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">When I tried it, nothing worked... EIther the documentation is wrong, or ledpar is vaporware. I wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">\begin{pairs}<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">\begin{Leftside} ... left side text ... \end{Leftside}<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">\begin{Rightside} ... right side text ... \end{Rightside}<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">\Columns<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">\end{pairs}<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">as written in the manual, and I got both texts in a *single* column (instead of two columns). Only when I inserted the command \stanza (taken from ledmac and normally used only for poetry, which is not my case) in the (Left|Right)side environments I got two columns (but also a bunch of error messages). Up to that point the result is satisfying. But footnotes do *not work at all*, they remain inside the text.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Has anyone used ledpar with parallel texts *and* footnotes and critical apparatus? I would be very curious to see an example that works.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Any other idea about how to solve that problem? It is quite tricky since vertical material is added on both columns as well as from the bottom (footnotes etc.).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks in advance<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Yannis<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">PS. I attach a small test file, illustrating the error messages and the failure of footnote.<br></blockquote><br> Vaporware? The documentation includes three complete examples, two of which were provided by a user.<br><br> I have attached a corrected and extended version of your test file. I don't see how you expect things to work if you can't spell macro names correctly and miss out some required macros, like \beginnumbering. It's a pity that you did not read the documentation more carefully, examine the examples and attempt to understand the error messages.<br><br> In the future consider that the fault might lie with you.<br><br>Goodbye<br>Peter W.<br><br><br><br>\documentclass{article}<br>\usepackage{ledmac,ledpar}<br>%%\footparagraphX{A} % PW deleted<br>\footparagraph{A} % PW added<br>\begin{document}<br><br>features it differs from any compilation that has yet been made. Its<br>main purpose is to present to American households a mass of good<br>reading. But it goes much beyond this. For in selecting this reading it<br>draws upon all literatures of all time and of every race, and thus<br>becomes a conspectus of the thought and intellectual evolution of man<br>from the beginning. Another and scarcely less important purpose is the<br>interpretation of this literature in essays by scholars and authors<br>competent to speak with authority.<br><br>\begin{pairs}<br>\setstanzaindents{0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}<br>\setlength{\columnrulewidth}{0pt}<br>\setlength{\Lcolwidth}{0.485\textwidth}<br>\setlength{\Rcolwidth}{\Lcolwidth}<br><br>\begin{Leftside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>The title, "A Library of the World's Best Literature," is strictly<br>descriptive. It means that what is offered to the reader is taken from<br>the best authors, and is fairly representative of the best literature<br>and of all literatures. It may be important historically, or because at<br>one time it expressed the thought and feeling of a nation, or because it<br>has the character of universality, or because the readers of to-day will<br>find it instructive, entertaining, or amusing. The Work aims to suit a<br>great variety of tastes, and thus to commend itself as a household<br>companion for any mood and any hour. There is no intention of presenting<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Leftside}<br><br>\begin{Rightside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>merely a mass of historical material, however important it is in its<br>place, which is commonly of the sort that people recommend others to<br>read and do not read themselves. It is not a library of reference only,<br>but a library to be read. The selections do not represent the<br>partialities and prejudices and cultivation of any one person, or of a<br>group of editors even; but, under the necessary editorial supervision,<br>the sober judgment of almost as many minds as have assisted in the<br>preparation of these volumes. By this method, breadth of appreciation<br>has been sought.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Rightside}<br><br>\Columns<br><br>\begin{Leftside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>The arrangement is not chronological, but alphabetical, under the names<br>of the authors, and, in some cases, of literatures and special<br>subjects. Thus, in each volume a certain variety is secured, the<br>heaviness or sameness of a mass of antique, classical, or mediaeval<br>material is avoided, and the reader obtains a sense of the varieties and<br>contrasts of different periods. But the work is not an encyclopaedia, or<br>merely a dictionary of authors. Comprehensive information as to all<br>writers of importance may be included in a supplementary reference<br>volume; but the attempt to quote from all would destroy the Work for<br>reading purposes, and reduce it to a herbarium of specimens.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Leftside}<br><br>\begin{Rightside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>In order to present a view\edtext{blabla}{\lemma{blibli}%<br>%%\Afoonote{oui oui oui.}} % PW fixed typo<br>\Afootnote{oui oui oui.}} <br>of the entire literary field, and to make<br>these volumes especially useful to persons who have not access to large<br>libraries, as well as to treat certain literatures or subjects when the<br>names of writers are unknown or would have no significance to the<br>reader, it has been found necessary to make groups of certain<br>nationalities, periods, and special topics. For instance, if the reader<br>would like to know something of ancient and remote literatures which<br>cannot well be treated under the alphabetical list of authors, he will<br>find special essays by competent scholars on the Accadian-Babylonian<br>literature, on the Egyptian, the Hindu, the Chinese, the Japanese, the<br>Icelandic, the Celtic, and others, followed by selections many of which<br>have been specially translated for this Work. In these literatures names<br>of ascertained authors are given in the Index. The intention of the<br>essays is to acquaint the reader with the spirit, purpose, and tendency<br>of these writings, in order that he may have a comparative view of the<br>continuity of thought and the value of tradition in the world. Some<br>subjects, like the Arthurian Legends, the Nibelungen Lied, the Holy<br>Grail, Provenal Poetry, the Chansons and Romances, and the Gesta<br>Romanorum, receive a similar treatment. Single poems upon which the<br>authors' title to fame mainly rests, familiar and dear hymns, and<br>occasional and modern verse of value, are also grouped together under an<br>appropriate heading, with reference in the Index whenever the poet<br>is known.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Rightside}<br><br>\Columns<br><br>\end{pairs}<br><br>It will thus be evident to the reader that the Library is fairly<br>comprehensive and representative, and that it has an educational value,<br>while offering constant and varied entertainment. This comprehensive<br>feature, which gives the Work distinction, is, however, supplemented by<br>another of scarcely less importance; namely, the critical interpretive<br>and biographical comments upon the authors and their writings and their<br>place in literature, not by one mind, or by a small editorial staff, but<br>by a great number of writers and scholars, specialists and literary<br>critics, who are able to speak from knowledge and with authority. Thus<br>the Library becomes in a way representative of the scholarship and wide<br>judgment of our own time. But the essays have another value. They give<br>information for the guidance of the reader. If he becomes interested in<br>any selections here given, and would like a fuller knowledge of the<br>author's works, he can turn to the essay and find brief observations and<br>characterizations which will assist him in making his choice of books<br>from a library.<br><br><br>\begin{pairs}<br>\setstanzaindents{0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0}<br>\setlength{\columnrulewidth}{0pt}<br>%\setlength{\Lcolwidth}{0.485\textwidth}<br>\setlength{\Lcolwidth}{\textwidth}<br>\setlength{\Rcolwidth}{\Lcolwidth}<br><br>\begin{Leftside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>The title, "A Library of the World's Best Literature," is strictly<br>descriptive. It means that what is offered to the reader is taken from<br>the best authors, and is fairly representative of the best literature<br>and of all literatures. It may be important historically, or because at<br>one time it expressed the thought and feeling of a nation, or because it<br>has the character of universality, or because the readers of to-day will<br>find it instructive, entertaining, or amusing. The Work aims to suit a<br>great variety of tastes, and thus to commend itself as a household<br>companion for any mood and any hour. There is no intention of presenting<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Leftside}<br><br>\begin{Rightside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>merely a mass of historical material, however important it is in its<br>place, which is commonly of the sort that people recommend others to<br>read and do not read themselves. It is not a library of reference only,<br>but a library to be read. The selections do not represent the<br>partialities and prejudices and cultivation of any one person, or of a<br>group of editors even; but, under the necessary editorial supervision,<br>the sober judgment of almost as many minds as have assisted in the<br>preparation of these volumes. By this method, breadth of appreciation<br>has been sought.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Rightside}<br><br>\Pages<br><br>\begin{Leftside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>The arrangement is not chronological, but alphabetical, under the names<br>of the authors, and, in some cases, of literatures and special<br>subjects. Thus, in each volume a certain variety is secured, the<br>heaviness or sameness of a mass of antique, classical, or mediaeval<br>material is avoided, and the reader obtains a sense of the varieties and<br>contrasts of different periods. But the work is not an encyclopaedia, or<br>merely a dictionary of authors. Comprehensive information as to all<br>writers of importance may be included in a supplementary reference<br>volume; but the attempt to quote from all would destroy the Work for<br>reading purposes, and reduce it to a herbarium of specimens.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Leftside}<br><br>\begin{Rightside}<br>\beginnumbering \pstart % PW added<br>%\stanza<br>In order to present a view\edtext{blabla}{\lemma{blibli}%<br>%%\Afoonote{oui oui oui.}} % PW fixed typo<br>\Afootnote{oui oui oui.}} <br>of the entire literary field, and to make<br>these volumes especially useful to persons who have not access to large<br>libraries, as well as to treat certain literatures or subjects when the<br>names of writers are unknown or would have no significance to the<br>reader, it has been found necessary to make groups of certain<br>nationalities, periods, and special topics. For instance, if the reader<br>would like to know something of ancient and remote literatures which<br>cannot well be treated under the alphabetical list of authors, he will<br>find special essays by competent scholars on the Accadian-Babylonian<br>literature, on the Egyptian, the Hindu, the Chinese, the Japanese, the<br>Icelandic, the Celtic, and others, followed by selections many of which<br>have been specially translated for this Work. In these literatures names<br>of ascertained authors are given in the Index. The intention of the<br>essays is to acquaint the reader with the spirit, purpose, and tendency<br>of these writings, in order that he may have a comparative view of the<br>continuity of thought and the value of tradition in the world. Some<br>subjects, like the Arthurian Legends, the Nibelungen Lied, the Holy<br>Grail, Provenal Poetry, the Chansons and Romances, and the Gesta<br>Romanorum, receive a similar treatment. Single poems upon which the<br>authors' title to fame mainly rests, familiar and dear hymns, and<br>occasional and modern verse of value, are also grouped together under an<br>appropriate heading, with reference in the Index whenever the poet<br>is known.<br>\pend \endnumbering % PW added<br>\end{Rightside}<br><br>\Pages<br><br>\end{pairs}<br><br>It will thus be evident to the reader that the Library is fairly<br>comprehensive and representative, and that it has an educational value,<br>while offering constant and varied entertainment. This comprehensive<br>feature, which gives the Work distinction, is, however, supplemented by<br>another of scarcely less importance; namely, the critical interpretive<br>and biographical comments upon the authors and their writings and their<br>place in literature, not by one mind, or by a small editorial staff, but<br>by a great number of writers and scholars, specialists and literary<br>critics, who are able to speak from knowledge and with authority. Thus<br>the Library becomes in a way representative of the scholarship and wide<br>judgment of our own time. But the essays have another value. They give<br>information for the guidance of the reader. If he becomes interested in<br>any selections here given, and would like a fuller knowledge of the<br>author's works, he can turn to the essay and find brief observations and<br>characterizations which will assist him in making his choice of books<br>from a library.<br><br>\end{document}<br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Monaco; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; 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