Hi<br><br>I don't know why you are that pissed and assume that I'm a kid?! I'm well aware about the volunteer fact and I did not deny or attack that at all! I even did not demand anything. I just wrote my thoughts, that's all.<br>
<br>Because I don't own the domain/server I can't publish a forum or a wiki. To setup a forum and a wiki is ridiculous easy and yes, I could do that.<br><br>I know that speech, 10 years ago the Linux folks sounded pretty much like you. I'm very thankful that those guys have nothing to say anymore...<br>
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However, I just spend some time to express an outsider-view. If you don't like it fine. I can live with that ;)<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2008 2:31 AM, Alan Litchfield <<a href="mailto:alan@alphabyte.co.nz">alan@alphabyte.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Well, [no name provided] this is a forum that you are posting to. It<br>just so happens that it uses an email client to display postings<br>
rather than a web browser. It is run by volunteers and is the product<br>of an initiative that no doubt was started by one person's idea. In<br>fact most activities in the TeX community are voluntary and no one is<br>
required to respond to any posting or question and indeed the<br>community is run at cost to the individuals concerned so that you have<br>some thing to complain about.<br><br>In the adult community, when one observes that there is a useful<br>
feature that may make life easier and if one has the time and<br>facilities to action it, then a person may provide such services and<br>perhaps make them available to the wider community. However most<br>people who answer questions on this forum (and for that there are<br>
large numbers who are grateful) are also living a life and working to<br>support that life. It may be that the idea has been considered but<br>that the person/people had not the time or facilities to see it into<br>fruition. Clearly you believe there is a need for this kind of<br>
interface so why don't you start the wiki or the forum and join in the<br>spirit you say you crave to be part of? In other words, what are you<br>offering in return for your demands?<br><br>Alan<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<br>On 31/01/2008, at 5:35 PM, <a href="mailto:justanotheradress@gmail.com">justanotheradress@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br>> I guess we define user friendly resp. usability differently...<br>> A forum and a wiki is something total different from that.<br>
><br>><br>> On Jan 30, 2008 11:27 PM, Martin Heller <<a href="mailto:mr_heller@yahoo.dk">mr_heller@yahoo.dk</a>> wrote:<br>> <a href="mailto:justanotheradress@gmail.com">justanotheradress@gmail.com</a> skrev:<br>
><br>> > I'm also a new TeX(live) user. After some back and forth I got my<br>> > question answered, but I really don't like the mailinglist-system.<br>> While<br>> > this is may good for occasional and though questions from advanced<br>
> > users, it's totally the wrong way to go for newbies. What I really<br>> miss<br>> > is a central forum and a central wiki.<br>><br>> You can post and read messages using your favorite news client<br>
> through <a href="http://gmane.org" target="_blank">gmane.org</a>. <<a href="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.texhax" target="_blank">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.texhax</a>>.<br>> Also the usenet group comp.text.tex is quite friendly to new users.<br>
><br>> > I really don't care about regional meetings and stuff, but I<br>> would, as<br>> > soon as my skills are better, share my knowledge in a forum and/or<br>> wiki.<br>><br>> Just start posting on usenet or contribute to the faq<br>
> <<a href="http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?" target="_blank">http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?</a>>.<br>><br><br></div></div><font color="#888888">--<br>Alan Litchfield GradDipBus, MBus(Hons), CTT, MNZCS<br>
AlphaByte<br>PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140<br><br><br></font></blockquote></div><br>