Florian Knorn floz at gmx.de
Wed Sep 14 18:49:24 CEST 2005

```sure. sorry, i forgot to mention that i'm using the memoir class...

do you now the penalty responsible for that ? my clubpenalty is already
set to 10000 ....

Robin Fairbairns schrieb:

>>For some reason, latex seems to prefer to put section heads at the bottom
>>of the previous page.  I am using \raggedbottom and I set \clubpenalty to
>>10000, but a section header is not the start of a paragraph and that
>>appears to have no effect.  There is nothing I could find in the FAQ about
>>it.  Surely, someone has solved this.
>>
>>
>
>on the contrary, the latex standard classes put tediously high
>penalties after section heads: this makes it difficult to write an
>outline document, since the penalties mean that it's impossible to
>break the page until there's some text in the sections.
>
>there are tediously many packages that mess up the latex "standard
>way", but you don't say what you're using so it's difficult to guess
>where things are going wrong.
>
>[note: i make no apology for the visual appearance of the latex
>standard classes.  i merely remark that this isn't one of their
>failings...]
>
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