Dear Karl,<br>sorry the email has gone out without finishing it. So I believe that the proxy creates the problem for the update.<br>About the documentation, I understand and I accept your point. The point as usual, is that Humanities have been double connected to MS Word too long, so LaTeX may never be a standard for them. Manuscripts usually become formatted with InDesign or similar products. I like LaTeX because the manuscript file is not separated from the layout. And I am writing a book which I have to give as final PDF file in any case...<br>
<br>All the best,<br><br>Roberto<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 November 2012 07:20, Karl Berry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karl@freefriends.org" target="_blank">karl@freefriends.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Robert,<br>
<br>
I understand and sympathize with your remarks, but the thing is, I've<br>
already tried very hard to write the documentation as clearly as I can,<br>
trying to assume as little as possible. As I'm sure you can appreciate,<br>
I can't just magically rewrite everything to be less "specialized". I<br>
am exquisitely aware that LaTeX itself, let alone the installation, can<br>
be intimidating, believe me. We've tried to make the default<br>
installation on Windows as standard and non-expert as possible.<br>
<br>
If there's a specific point in a specific document that is problematic,<br>
or introductory matters that you feel are not discussed, I'd be glad to<br>
hear about any specifics. Or if some error message happened and<br>
confused you, we'd like to hear about that.<br>
<br>
I'm just glad you tried to read the documentation at all. That is far<br>
from universal! In general, starting from the top-level web page,<br>
<a href="http://tug.org/texlive" target="_blank">tug.org/texlive</a>, and specifically the installer documentation,<br>
<a href="http://tug.org/texlive/doc/install-tl.html" target="_blank">http://tug.org/texlive/doc/install-tl.html</a>, might be best. But everyone<br>
learns differently.<br>
<br>
Finally, regarding wget, TL itself provides the binary for Windows.<br>
There is normally no reason you even need to be aware of this. So I<br>
wonder how it is that you have to deal with it.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your comments.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
k<br>
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