<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><blockquote type="cite">The Aleph team has declared that Aleph development has been halted for<br>some time; efforts are concentrated on luatex now. Therefore they<br>recommend that TeX Live simply make the "aleph" executable a link to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">luatex. So I plan to implement that recommendation.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I strongly disagree, at least at the current point. I am myself using Aleph as an alternative to Omega (Aleph has less bugs), and luatex DOES NOT produce the same results. It still hangs with complex LaTeX files. I suggest you do that symlink only once we are sure that we get the same results and that every file which compiles with Aleph/Omega also compiles with luatex.<div><br></div><div>Maybe what luatex does is enough for the "aleph guys", but this is not a reason to remove it from the distribution and replace it with something not compatible. You should rather care for people that actually use aleph and do not want their files to be broken because some (smart) guy said "luatex does the same thing we don't need aleph anymore". I'm not asking for any evolution of aleph, just leave it where it is and as it is. Or let people choose whether they want the real thing or the symlink.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Yannis<br><div><br><div><html>Le 30 mars 08 à 23:53, Karl Berry a écrit :</html><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br>If this is going to cause insuperable problems for anyone, tell the<br>Aleph folks so they can convince you otherwise :).<br><br>BTW, there is no plan to remove or significantly change Omega;<br>essentially the same binary and support for Omega will be present as in<br>past years. We (notably Akira) have already integrated the updates from<br>Knuth's "2008 tune-up".<br><br>Best,<br>Karl<br>_______________________________________________<br>dev-luatex mailing list<br><a href="mailto:dev-luatex@ntg.nl">dev-luatex@ntg.nl</a><br>http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/dev-luatex<br><br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">--</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Yannis Haralambous, Ph.D. <a href="mailto:yannis.haralambous@telecom-bretagne.eu">yannis.haralambous@telecom-bretagne.eu</a> |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Directeur d'Études <a href="http://omega.enstb.org/yannis">http://omega.enstb.org/yannis</a> |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Tel. +33 (0)2.29.00.14.27 |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Fax +33 (0)2.29.00.12.82 |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Département Informatique |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| TELECOM Bretagne |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Technopôle de Brest Iroise, CS 83818, 29238 Brest CEDEX 3, France |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">| Coordonnées Google-Earth : 48°21'31.57"N 4°34'16.76"W |</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2">+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> ...pour distinguer l'extérieur d'un aquarium,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> mieux vaut n'être pas poisson</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 10px; "></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> ...the ball I threw while playing in the park</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> has not yet reached the ground</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> Es gab eine Zeit, wo ich nur ungern über Schubert sprechen,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"> nur Nächtens den Bäumen und Sternen von ihm vorerzählen mögen.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span></span></font></div></div></div></span></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></body></html>